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On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 12:26:32 +0100, "IMM" wrote:


"Julian Fowler" wrote in message
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On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 12:18:27 +0100, "IMM"
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"Julian Fowler" wrote in message
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On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:57:13 +0100, "IMM"
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Get rid of the electric shower as they are made by Satan
himself.

Why?

Satan operates in mysterious ways and electric showers are one of
them.

My question was genuine: why the opposition to electric showers
(preferable to other options, IMO, on grounds of practicality)?

1. They cost 3 to 4 times more to run.

Compared to?

Gas.

But they're instant - no need for having a store of water already heated
(or
installing extra kit such as your suggested quick recovery cylinder).

The OP was installing a bath too.

2. They are unreliable.

Not in my experience.

The views of one don't count.

Okay - I've found that in my life, the 3 electric showers I've had (3
different properties I note!) have never been unreliable. Does that could
as 3 votes, or just 1?

Well your votes count with the other millions to this one.

3. They have poor control

Ours have multiple settings for different users - push your button,
you get your preferred temperature and flow rate. Far *better*
control than other showers we've had in the past.

Get yourself a real thermostatic shower and see the difference.

Same goes for cars - get yourself a nice
sports car and you'll never want to
drive a Skoda again - however, doesn't
mean that Skodas should be scrapped!

It does mean they should not be made as they were. BTW, Skoda's are now
superb cars. You see they looked at their earlier cars and electric showers
and though we must make cars like excellent proper shower, and look what
they did..

4. They have poor flow.

Compared to a GBH-with-a-sledge-hammer power shower maybe, but quite
good enough for most wake-me-up-after-a-heavy-night needs.

Still poor flow.

But may be adequate (see Skoda reference)

Those Skoda's are no longer made.

To have a half decent flow you require very heavy
expensive cable right back to the CU, negating any so-called ease of
installation and reduced installation costs.

Huh? We had a new shower installed earlier this year; it took the
electrician about 45 minutes to install the cable from the CU
(downstairs) to the wall behind the shower (upstairs), 15 minutes to
connect it up.

Most have to run a cable all through the house. Because yours was easy
does
not mean most are.

Though surely you still have to do this with a dedicated feed from the
water
tank if you used a pumped shower? I know I'd prefer to lay cable rather
than pipework...

Plastic pipe is easy these days.

5. They are ugly.

Compared to?

Good well made proper showers which have style and panache.

Who cares about style and panache? Its a washing device!!!

Old Skoda owners?

6. They have electricity in wet room near to wet hands.

So do dishwashers, washing machines, ...

But not where water is being squirted around by wet hands.

If its sealed adequately, then its safe. Outside sockets/switches etc
have
been used safely for years.

Sockets are not supposed to be near water, sinks etc.

7. Electricity emits far more greenhouse gasses than

... ???

Natural gas, so they slowly kill us.

So I take it you cycle everywhere?

No I use natural gas, and walk when I can.


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