On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 01:05:10 -0700, John wrote:

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Americans forget that those "terrorists" are heros to millions of
people in the world.

Just depends which side you are on.

There you go THINKING again. Now cut that out. "One man's terrorist...
" as the saying goes...


Well sure, if your definition of "freedom fighter" is "one by whose
violent acts seeks to impose tyrannical theocracy in which heads, hands,
and other extremities can be lopped off for failure to obey various
religious dictates, supports the physical mutilation of females and their
subjugation as property and seeks to impose,by force, its religion upon any
and all countries of the world", then yep, they are freedom fighters just
like those men and women of the US armed forces who are attempting to
prevent various tyrannical forces from imposing those rules upon others and
who are fighting to assure that people can exercise the religion or
non-religion of their choice and are free to express their opinions no
matter how stupid or ignorant they may be.

Sheesh! I know ya'll hate Bush and all that and that he is responsible
for all the evils of the world, from the Greek, Persian, and Roman empires,
through the Inquisition, to all of the evil in the present times, but
don't ya'll exercise even a *few* brain cells to realize that a) there
really is good and evil in the world and it doesn't take a whole lot of
intelligence to realize that those flying planes filled with innocent men,
women, and children into large buildings to kill even more innocent men,
women, and children for the sake of attempting to impose your twisted
version of religion upon humanity is the very definition of *evil*, and b)
the act of attacking countries in order to stop more instances of evil
people killing civilians for the sake of their twisted version of their
religion is an act of defense and not only morally defensible but morally
right in order to preserve those freedoms you are even now exercising, and
c) those "other man's freedom fighters" would happily apply decapitation or
other modern forms of capital punishment like being crushed by a falling
wall to the offenses that most of the people who hold your views hold as
absolute rights such as "lifestyle choices", freedom *from* religion, and
criticism of the government?

Has the teaching of moral relativism gone so far that people spouting the
previous poster's viewpoints don't realize how non-survivable those
viewpoints are? This is not some academic exercise, this is real people
who are working to figure out how to blow up the next airplane, how to get
the next working WMD, how to do maximum damage to the west while advancing
their own progressive 7'th century agenda. This isn't some made-up story
you are watching on your wide-screen TV on your Home Theatre system, this
is real life in which skyscrapers have been brought to the ground, the seat
of the civilian leadership of the US military attacked, nightclubs and
embassies blown up, subways in Britain have been bombed, and airliners from
England to the US threatened. You may not think we are at war, but the
people perpetrating those acts of evil (that should make your morally
relativistic head explode) certainly think *they* are at war and that *you*
are one of the enemy. They really don't care if you have taken a "neutral"
or "academic" philosophical view of this conflict. It's not an academic
exercise to them, it's an exercise in figuring out how many of us they need
to kill until they get to you too. IMNSHO, this is a threat that needs to
be addressed and that should have been addressed years ago. Heck, I'd have
even supported Clinton had he shown the brazos and intestinal fortitude to
do more than lob a few cruise missiles into some empty tents.

If your idea of "thinking" is the idea that everyone's ideas and
philosophies are equally valid, then you truly have no perception of the
real world. "Open minded" does not need to mean that one is "empty-headed"
or morally vacuous.

Thank goodness for the sheepdogs who *don't* hold to the previous
poster's views. They take care of even the stupid sheep.



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