On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:32:59 GMT, "Bob Swinney"
wrote:

Yeah! Kinda reminds me of the images of the ATF at Waco being shot through
the thin wall of a metal building and rolling off the roof. Whooda thought
them religious zealots would have had sense enough to shoot through a wall?

Bob Swinney

The bad part was the ATF guys were shooting each other though those
walls. The whole rat**** started out with an ATF Thug shooting
himself in the leg when he got out of the cattle truck. Just about the
time they shot the dogs and puppies in the kennel.

Gunner


"Don Foreman" wrote in message
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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 02:45:34 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

This is what they are going to do and below you can read what
happened.

November 4, 2003 - The ATFE and its contractor, Applied Research
Associates, have been purchasing high power rocket motors, rocket
kits, launch rails, electrical launchers and other items to conduct
tests at Hill Air Force Base in Utah. The purpose of the tests is to
provide proof that high power rockets can be used to shoot down
commercial aircraft during landings and takeoffs.

What a great boondoggle! Some guys have all the fun. I got to
work on a few boondoggles so I guess I've had my turn, but this
does sound like fun. ****-simple mission, gadgets to make and fly
on Unc's nickel, , get to blow things out of the desert sky. Sweet!

Ourr tax dollars at work, applying the guidance & control engineering
expertise of ATF agents to preserve our national security. Phew!



" ..The world has gone crazy. Guess I'm showing my age...
I think it dates from when we started looking at virtues
as funny. It's embarrassing to speak of honor, integrity,
bravery, patriotism, 'doing the right thing', charity,
fairness. You have Seinfeld making cowardice an acceptable
choice; our politicians changing positions of honor with
every poll; we laugh at servicemen and patriotic fervor; we
accept corruption in our police and bias in our judges; we
kill our children, and wonder why they have no respect for
Life. We deny children their childhood and innocence- and
then we denigrate being a Man, as opposed to a 'person'. We
*assume* that anyone with a weapon will use it against his
fellowman- if only he has the chance. Nah; in our agitation
to keep the State out of the church business, we've
destroyed our value system and replaced it with *nothing*.
Turns my stomach- " Chas , rec.knives