I am on cable and the cable company Rogers, and Yahoo have started a
service for which users have to pay extra and they make it impossible
(try to) to use the newsgroups, where they are not allowed to put all
their advertising in.
It is not so that things are free, I have to pay more than $100.- every
2 months, and to ad too that they increased the monthly cost while they
dropped the newsgroup service, witch was "free" and included in the
agreement.
Yes I still am able to get to the wood turners group through Google,
but I don't like it .

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo