On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 02:56:10 GMT, Ken Sterling (Ken Sterling) wrote:

On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 21:10:36 GMT, Ken Sterling (Ken Sterling) wrote:

On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:09:41 GMT, Ken Sterling (Ken Sterling) wrote:

Cool. We have a Wally World in town and everytime I go in there I just
feel like I am doing business with satan for some reason.
A few years ago INC magazine had an article on small business that
dealt with WM and how it almost destroyed some of them.
Mike

So WHY go in there??? Myself, my wife, both my boys and their wives
REFUSE to shop at Wal-Mart. PERIOD. I will pay more elsewhere, I
will get quality elsewhere. Until I absolutely cannot find what I
need at other places, Wal-mart will not get my China bound money.
This country needs to WAKE UP - and stop shopping at Wal-Mart !
Ken.

So Ken..can you give me the names of a couple good American made CD or
DVD players? Or perhaps a TV set?

Gunner

Lots of stuff made here (Sony), and lots of stuff made in Japan (Sony)
..... stuff made in China - don't want it, don't need it - may as
well throw the bux in the dumpster as that's where the Chinese junk is
going to end up anyway (and soon)... and basically all the Chinese are
doing is reverse engineering anything that is going on the market -
then they cheapen it up - and mass produce it and flood the market so
the Americans will buy it and throw it away in a week and buy another.
sigh Don't own a DVD or a CD - don't need 'em, and when the old TV
finally craps out, may not even replace it, as there certainly isn't
anything worth watching on it now. China has surpassed the US in
electronic exports (2005) - only because we buy 'em - and only because
Wal-mart floods the market with 'em. But it's no different with
clothing, toys, etc., etc.... It's getting real tough to buy "made in
USA", but I'm continually trying. I'm also a bit stubborn in that I
may either *make* what I need or do without if it says CHINA on it.
But, then again, that's just me and my attitude. I hate Wal-mart and
everything it stands for and does.... watch a show on PBS called
Frontline sometime when they are showing "Wal-mart, are they really
*good* for America".... You may get the picture....
Ken.

So its ok if I buy the CD player at Costco for $50, but not the very
same chinese made one at Walmart for $29?

Gunner
Gunner,
I think you are missing my point... I try *not* to buy Chinese - from
*anybody*. My options are quickly being extinguished, however, since
the American market is getting flooded with Chinese junk - greatly
enhanced by the Wal-mart purchases. If you and everyone else would
refuse to buy that Chinese CD player from ANYBODY, wouldn't you think
that better made ones would become available on the market? (I know
this would only be a hypothetical situation because everyone is
wanting to save a buck). I may not make much of a difference, but at
least I feel that I'm not contributing to the loss of American jobs by
not buying the Chinese junk. It's so bad now, that there are getting
to be more and more Americans *moving* to China to get jobs. That
just ain't right. It's like buying an American flag, with a tag on it
that says "Made in China". Makes me sick, even tho it appears not to
bother you very much... sigh.
Ken.
With electronics stuff the prevailing opinion seams to be"it'll be
obsolete in six months, so, so what if it only lasts a year"
Our landfills are filling up with totally useable, but out-dated or
obsolete electronics. Our consumer society, with its disposable
mentality, combined with "Buy the cheapest itis" will be the undoing
of the American (and Canadian, and Australian ---) economies.