Abby Normal wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Abby Normal wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Abby Normal wrote
Rod Speed wrote
In effect the ductless split system is just like the strips
except that its much more efficient than the strips for
when the primary system doesnt have enough horsepower
to come back off setback quickly enough
Actually with the heat strips in an auxilairy heat function, the
heat strips are in series with the heat pump indoor air coil and
the supply air temperature distributed through out the space is
elevated above what the heat pump can put out. An electrical
analogy would be two heat sources in series.
Irrelevant to it being a more expensive source of that heat.
Well you said the ductless split is just like the strips except...........
So I merely pointed out the fundamental difference you were not aware of.
Couldnt bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.
You were just making so much progress too.
Couldnt bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.
The ductless booster system will heat up a common area
that would also be recieving heat from the central ducted
system. Now you have two heat sources in parallel so it
already is a smidge different than using the heat strips.
Irrelevant to strips being a more expensive source of that heat.
Just the fundamental difference. The heat strips get the job
done but you have not really thought out this parallel heat
scheme of yours in the central area. You get a little bit of
the series action as you try to trickle heat into the rooms.
Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you
have never ever had a ****ing clue about the basics.
So to avoid the room getting overly hot
the ductless system would shut off.
ONLY when its got the common area back off setback.
That is what I said. The booster is in the central area, it heats
the central area in addition to the primary system. Therefore it
and the primary system warms up the central area so the booster
shuts off and the primary system shuts off or the central area is
overheated. So you can think about your multiple thermostats
and where exactly you are going to put the primary stat.
Dont need any of that, just a stat for the ductless split system
in the primary area, set a little below the normal temp required.
Rooms will never recover then,
Wrong, as always. The primary system is clearly quite adequate
to keep the temps in the house uniform if setback isnt used.
Nothing changes on that when setback is used and a ductless
split system or anything else is used to come back off the
setback quicker than the primary system can achieve.
think about it. That booster is not doing much more than
recovering the core if you cut it off before the primary system.
Wrong when the primary system is perfectly capable of keeping
the temps uniform in the house when setback isnt used.
You need a booster in every room for this.
Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have
never ever had a ****ing clue about the basics and why the
best you have ever been able to manage is drunken HVAC ape.
Like adding a heat pump to a home that originally
had electric baseboard heaters in each room.
Nothing like if the heap pump has a properly
designed duct system added with it.
Reams of terminally silly completely irrelevant crap
that isnt even a viable troll flushed where it belongs.
Maybe even motorized dampers on the primary supply to the
central area. So you shut off the supplies to the central area
so not to overheat but you need to draw return from the central
area to try and get this extra heat to the rooms. Hmm this
depressurizes central area, causes infiltration, increases heat load.
Pathetic, really.
Well the only way you are going to recover
with your dog scheme is to overheat the core.
Wrong, as always.
Don't see you getting out of overheating the central area rocket.
Your problem.
Give up now on the ductless booster its a dog.
A big problem is to get heat to the other areas, you will
most likely find that you need to overheat the central area.
No you dont. The primary system will equalise the temps fine.
How?
Same way it does when setback aint used, stupid.
Others have pointed out how this wastes energy. I pointed out how it
also reduces the efficiency of the booster in addition to wasting heat.
Not a ****ing clue, as always.
Reams of your pathetic excuse for a troll flushed where it belongs.
Thats what you want it to do.
You have warmed up the central area but
all the other rooms are still not recovered.
Wrong, the primary system will be circulating that
warmed up air from the central area to the other areas.
It is circulating a mixture of air at various temperatures,
Wrong, as always.
the central area with the booster will be perhaps
4 or 5 degrees F warmer than the air in the rooms
while the remainder of the house is trying to recover.
That happens when the sun shines on some
of the rooms and not the others, stupid.
The primary system heats this air. As you will see, maybe introducing
air at 25 degrees warmer than the room temperatures, maintains the
room at that temperature, and by supplying air a little more than 25
degrees warmer than the room air temperature it may then elevate or
begin to recover the room temperature back to a comfortable level. It
depends on how your system is tailored 
The bulk of the air will be coming from the central area, where it will be
close to the temp you want, just like it is when setback aint used, stupid.
Probably the primary system moves air based on the fact that perhaps
it supplies air maybe 20 degrees F warmer than the room air, and
this is to maintain temperature not recover the temperature.
It doesnt recover the temp, the ductless split system does that, stupid.
It simply heats the rooms, everywhere it is ducted too.
With mostly air from the central area which has been recovered
to close to normal temp by whatever you chose to use to get
the central area back off the setback in a decent time, stupid.
If you would get out a note pad, you could write down a tip. The
sensible heat supplied to the room is proportional to the airflow to
the room. and the temperature differential between the hopefully warm
supply air and the room air. A heat pump extracting heat from a
temperature source near the freezing point of water may elevate the
supply air temperature by upwards to 20 degrees F above the room
temperature.
All completely irrelevant to what happens when the central area
has been recovered to about the normal temp by whatever you
choose to use to get back off the setback in a reasonable time.
Reams of your pathetic excuse for a troll flushed where it belongs.
None of the rest of your even sillier **** worth
bothering with, all flushed where it belongs.