On 13 Dec 2005 13:02:22 -0800, wrote:


John DeBoo wrote:
Then buy the Craftsman line, not the other **** line that you must be
associating with Craftsman. Their hand tools are excellent and a great
value. The replacement policy is great and the selection is too. I
used them as a mechanic for many many years and only replaced 5-6 at the
very most. Still use them and still have them. You sound like one of
the typical tool gatherers who frequent this forum and do nothing but
bitch about Sears products.
John


Well, I'm not a tool gatherer, but more a tool user who found that Sears
Craftsman power tools (mid 1980's to probably about 1995 -- don't have any
experience since then, my momma didn't raise no fool) a) didn't work for
their application without significant tweaking or compensating for tool
shortcomings, and b) were cheap and not "cheap" as in "inexpensive", but
"cheap" as in poorly constructed, throw-away tools that didn't last long or
hold tolerances well.

The fact that I might from time to time warn people away from Craftsman
tools in no way reflects any element of tool snobbery or other attititude
-- it simply seeks to make sure that other people don't throw money away on
a tool for which they will curse the day they laid eyes on it. As someone
else has said, "I'm too poor to buy cheap stuff".

Maybe Sears will turn the corner and change again for the better after
exploiting the Craftsman name and making the phrase "value engineering" a
term of derision. I'll let others be the guinea pigs though, I'm not going
to take that risk.



Are you talking about the line of sockets and wrenches that say
Craftsman on the side, and which are sold at Sears, that have the
sockets routinely fall off the wrenches because the toleralances are
large enough to throw a cat through? The same set where you have to
hold the socket with your fingers while racheting because it takes so
much goddam pressure to "disengage" the ratchet?

Is THAT the line you're talking about? Cause that's the line I have.
Did I buy the wrong line of Craftsman?


That paragraph was worth about 25 points. :-) You'll fit in fine in
this group.

You used them as a mechanic for many years. Which probably means you
bought them many years ago, back when they actually were good tools.

Times change, John. Perhaps you haven't?



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