clare @ snyder.on .ca wrote in news:iafeivc29tnlbt0143eqhvk341oa147s73@
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On 29 Jul 2003 11:23:45 -0700, (Dan Caster) wrote:

spitfire2 wrote in message took quite a


We and the French designed and built the Concorde, while the Russians
had a stab at the same thing, but the poor Yanks, with all their
money
and loud mouths, gave up, and then did their damndest to prevent
Concorde operating into the USA! Talk about sour grapes!

And Canada built the Arrow back in 1958??? and the USA forced the
abandonment of the project. First successful supersonic fighter
design. A crime.

Have a look at the English Electric Lightining, 11th August 1954,
Supersonic without afterburners - super cruise in 1954? 4th April 1957
world speed record over M2 with minimum afterburner. Apparently full AB
was over M2 but a problem because everything got too hot.

Used to see them taking off daily as akid, four abreast from RAF
Lossiemouth chasing Russkie Bears. They got to the end of the runway and
went veritical to 60k ft with a sonic boom. They always had a fuel
shortage problem!

There used to be a display team flying nine at airshows until the Red
Arrows started up.

The crime here is that British government didn't want it and delayed
agreed funding until 1960 when it finally entered service, by which time
the costs doubled and of the expected sales only the Saudis bought them
in any number. The same government then canned the TSR2 in 1965 after
spending multi millions and tried pulling out of Concorde.