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So what did your installer say?

This isn't alt.hvac. If you don't have something that will be of
help
crawl
back to your snake pit where your buddies appreciate moronic
replies.
MLD

You dumb****! How do you know the rest of the system is set up
properly?
What is the gas pressure? What about the orifices? What about the
venting?
What about the duct work?

Something is obviously wrong here, and the homeowner shouldn't have to
be
changing settings on his brand new furnace. He should call the
installer
and get it checked out and set up properly.

You sound like a real kunt.

You have a point, many things to consider--but your response is still
typical of the snake pit at alt.hvac. Just one question--between your
hat
size, your shoe size or your IQ---which one is bigger?



At least he didnt give the hack reply to put in a restrictive air
filter....
Since no one here knows the condition of the ductwork, and we can all
assume
that the installer just went and slapped in a furnace and didnt redo any
duct, sure...lets half ass the air flow and since the OP prob has no clue
how to check and adjust the gas valve, yay...lets create a possible
senario
that could...and thats COULD ruin a new installation.


You're right--no fault in trying to give a proper response to someone's
request for information or help. Every field, no matter what, requires
expertise, experience and common sense. What you have over in alt.hvac is
a
bunch of buffoons who relish every opportunity to dump on anyone who
enters
looking for some info or help.

To someone that is looking for help, THIS is the right group to ask in.
The other group was NEVER intended to be a self help group, and what alot of
folks forget, is that in many states, its illegal for a homeowner to
install, work on, or modify a unit...licences are a big deal.
Now, with that ruling in I think it was the Netherlands, expect to start
being held liable as we all have predicted for giving wrong advice that
hurts someone...to someone with a licence, like myself, you have to pick and
chose real careful.

It's so bad there, you're even dumping all
over yourselves. Don't start bringing that trash mouthing here. HVAC is
a
specialty and there are things that you know that the average owner
doesn't---however, it's not rocket science,


the bad mouthing over there, is over a few users that are simply hacks.
Period.
Ive been in here for years, I dont post much in here..I go months and wont
even look at the place...you can only tell someone to get a pro with
training and INSURANCE so many times.
No..its not rocket science..its fluid dynamics, and thermal dynamics, with a
bit of electrical thrown in.
And if you want the truth, there are times rocket science is prob more
simple.
Then again...with enough training, you too can do open heart surgery.



lots of people can read a
schematic, understand a wiring diagram and can up to a point, do their own
troubleshooting. I also recognize that there are situations that are too
dangerous to give advice, that doing the wrong thing can ruin an
installation, if so, say so--have no fear, no one is going to take over
your
job, give a little respect if you want respect.

Respect is something I gain every day by being just like I am...I pull no
punches, and dont sugar coat something just because you want it sugar
coated..if teh damn things broke, its broke. Dont try to do like some EEs do
and make it sound simple to replace a resister on a board...we dont do that,
NOR would it be approved by any maker of a unit to start doing surgery on a
board....as an example that is used in so often.

I will NOT sit here on every post and explain how many hours might go into
something as simple as a manual T, or J, or D...I wont tell you how to do it
either. I will tell you that the freebie online **** is that..****..its not
even close to what you encounter in the real world. You can run all the fill
in the blank proggys you want, it does not do you a bit of good if you dont
know EXACTLY what you are putting in.
Diagnosis? No way anyone in the biz has time to cover each and every
possible issue on every unit every time its asked.
If you notice, most of the info in here, from the same bunch thats raising
hell in the other group, is pretty much what anyone could ask for being that
no one has that crystal ball.
There are two in here that everyone loves cause they kiss ass...but they are
two of the worst examples of the trade, to a real pro...hence, why they
catch so much hell.
Ive told people to **** off in alt.hvac, and come over here and answer the
question...
Respect? I have that, and my paying customers show it, every time we get
another call thats a referral...and yes Virginia, we get alot of them.