About 3 years ago we saw a 60 ton Scotsman sell for almost 7K. It was well
worn and I would say no less than 30 years old. As usual it was a well
advertised auction where people were paying way way too much for junk. The guy
that bought the ironworker was very upset when he found out the large cabinent
of dies didn't go with the machine but were sold later on during the auction
and he didn't end up with them.
As stated in the previous post the outside die machines are much more
versitile.

tim