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Grant Erwin
 
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There's a machinery dealer in my area (W. Washington) who has a 35-ton
Scotchman ironworker for sale. It looks pretty old but he repainted it
and did a good job but used cheap light blue paint. It runs on 220V 3ph
power which I have available. It has a shear which can cut 10" wide 1/4"
thick steel or 6" wide 1/2" steel. It also has an angle shear which can
cut 3x3x1/4" angle (square cut) or 2x2x1/4" angle (miter cut). It also
has a bunch of punches. New blades (not installed) for the angle shear
and bar shear. Really old electrical controls, but functional. Little
bit of cavitation whine from the hydraulic pump but no sign of leaks.

Basically, it's probably a 30 year old little ironworker. I could get
a *lot* of use out of it but of course, being a machinery dealer, he
is asking more than I want to pay.

Also, it isn't really very big as ironworkers go.

It does have the original manual (reproduced typewritten pages, looks
very '60s).

He has been advertising it locally and seems to be having a hard time
selling it. I hate to buy something I don't think I can sell.

If it were $800 I'd buy it in a nanosecond. If it were $3000 I'd pass
without a second thought. Naturally, it's just low enough to catch my
interest ..

What do you guys think of the usefulness, resaleability and value of
such a machine? It looks quite a bit like these:

http://www.gerlingersteel.com/images...ers/SM314U.jpg
http://www.ebmachinery.org/SCOTCHMAN_35_TON_WB.html
This is a newer 35 ton machine with specs:
http://www.westbrook-eng.com/specifications/x4976.htm

To email me see http://www.tinyisland.com/email.html

Thanks!

Grant Erwin
Kirkland, Washington

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There's a machinery dealer in my area (W. Washington) who has a 35-ton
Scotchman ironworker for sale. It looks pretty old but he repainted it
and did a good job but used cheap light blue paint. It runs on 220V 3ph
power which I have available. It has a shear which can cut 10" wide 1/4"
thick steel or 6" wide 1/2" steel. It also has an angle shear which can
cut 3x3x1/4" angle (square cut) or 2x2x1/4" angle (miter cut). It also
has a bunch of punches. New blades (not installed) for the angle shear
and bar shear. Really old electrical controls, but functional. Little
bit of cavitation whine from the hydraulic pump but no sign of leaks.

Basically, it's probably a 30 year old little ironworker. I could get
a *lot* of use out of it but of course, being a machinery dealer, he
is asking more than I want to pay.

Also, it isn't really very big as ironworkers go.

It does have the original manual (reproduced typewritten pages, looks
very '60s).

He has been advertising it locally and seems to be having a hard time
selling it. I hate to buy something I don't think I can sell.

If it were $800 I'd buy it in a nanosecond. If it were $3000 I'd pass
without a second thought. Naturally, it's just low enough to catch my
interest ..

What do you guys think of the usefulness, resaleability and value of
such a machine? It looks quite a bit like these:

http://www.gerlingersteel.com/images...ers/SM314U.jpg
http://www.ebmachinery.org/SCOTCHMAN_35_TON_WB.html
This is a newer 35 ton machine with specs:
http://www.westbrook-eng.com/specifications/x4976.htm

To email me see http://www.tinyisland.com/email.html

Thanks!

Grant Erwin
Kirkland, Washington


It could be useful, but I hate punches mounted inside a frame.
It makes it near impossible to punch holes in large pieces.

I prefer the Uni-Hydro design for small Ironworkers.
It gives you a punch with an open C-frame on one end.
Much more useful.

Like this

http://www.unihydro.com/www/unihydro/80-24.html

Aaron has a Uni-Hydro in his shop in Ballard.
He loves that thing.
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About 3 years ago we saw a 60 ton Scotsman sell for almost 7K. It was well
worn and I would say no less than 30 years old. As usual it was a well
advertised auction where people were paying way way too much for junk. The guy
that bought the ironworker was very upset when he found out the large cabinent
of dies didn't go with the machine but were sold later on during the auction
and he didn't end up with them.
As stated in the previous post the outside die machines are much more
versitile.

tim
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R. Zimmerman
 
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Scotchmans were made back in Manitoba if I recall and they work but they are
a bottom budget ironworker. No wonder he has a tough time selling it.
Randy

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There's a machinery dealer in my area (W. Washington) who has a 35-ton
Scotchman ironworker for sale. It looks pretty old but he repainted it
and did a good job but used cheap light blue paint. It runs on 220V 3ph
power which I have available. It has a shear which can cut 10" wide 1/4"
thick steel or 6" wide 1/2" steel. It also has an angle shear which can
cut 3x3x1/4" angle (square cut) or 2x2x1/4" angle (miter cut). It also
has a bunch of punches. New blades (not installed) for the angle shear
and bar shear. Really old electrical controls, but functional. Little
bit of cavitation whine from the hydraulic pump but no sign of leaks.

Basically, it's probably a 30 year old little ironworker. I could get
a *lot* of use out of it but of course, being a machinery dealer, he
is asking more than I want to pay.

Also, it isn't really very big as ironworkers go.

It does have the original manual (reproduced typewritten pages, looks
very '60s).

He has been advertising it locally and seems to be having a hard time
selling it. I hate to buy something I don't think I can sell.

If it were $800 I'd buy it in a nanosecond. If it were $3000 I'd pass
without a second thought. Naturally, it's just low enough to catch my
interest ..

What do you guys think of the usefulness, resaleability and value of
such a machine? It looks quite a bit like these:

http://www.gerlingersteel.com/images...ers/SM314U.jpg
http://www.ebmachinery.org/SCOTCHMAN_35_TON_WB.html
This is a newer 35 ton machine with specs:
http://www.westbrook-eng.com/specifications/x4976.htm

To email me see http://www.tinyisland.com/email.html

Thanks!

Grant Erwin
Kirkland, Washington



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