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actual practical value of old 35 ton ironworker?
There's a machinery dealer in my area (W. Washington) who has a 35-ton
Scotchman ironworker for sale. It looks pretty old but he repainted it and did a good job but used cheap light blue paint. It runs on 220V 3ph power which I have available. It has a shear which can cut 10" wide 1/4" thick steel or 6" wide 1/2" steel. It also has an angle shear which can cut 3x3x1/4" angle (square cut) or 2x2x1/4" angle (miter cut). It also has a bunch of punches. New blades (not installed) for the angle shear and bar shear. Really old electrical controls, but functional. Little bit of cavitation whine from the hydraulic pump but no sign of leaks. Basically, it's probably a 30 year old little ironworker. I could get a *lot* of use out of it but of course, being a machinery dealer, he is asking more than I want to pay. Also, it isn't really very big as ironworkers go. It does have the original manual (reproduced typewritten pages, looks very '60s). He has been advertising it locally and seems to be having a hard time selling it. I hate to buy something I don't think I can sell. If it were $800 I'd buy it in a nanosecond. If it were $3000 I'd pass without a second thought. Naturally, it's just low enough to catch my interest .. What do you guys think of the usefulness, resaleability and value of such a machine? It looks quite a bit like these: http://www.gerlingersteel.com/images...ers/SM314U.jpg http://www.ebmachinery.org/SCOTCHMAN_35_TON_WB.html This is a newer 35 ton machine with specs: http://www.westbrook-eng.com/specifications/x4976.htm To email me see http://www.tinyisland.com/email.html Thanks! Grant Erwin Kirkland, Washington |
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actual practical value of old 35 ton ironworker?
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wrote: There's a machinery dealer in my area (W. Washington) who has a 35-ton Scotchman ironworker for sale. It looks pretty old but he repainted it and did a good job but used cheap light blue paint. It runs on 220V 3ph power which I have available. It has a shear which can cut 10" wide 1/4" thick steel or 6" wide 1/2" steel. It also has an angle shear which can cut 3x3x1/4" angle (square cut) or 2x2x1/4" angle (miter cut). It also has a bunch of punches. New blades (not installed) for the angle shear and bar shear. Really old electrical controls, but functional. Little bit of cavitation whine from the hydraulic pump but no sign of leaks. Basically, it's probably a 30 year old little ironworker. I could get a *lot* of use out of it but of course, being a machinery dealer, he is asking more than I want to pay. Also, it isn't really very big as ironworkers go. It does have the original manual (reproduced typewritten pages, looks very '60s). He has been advertising it locally and seems to be having a hard time selling it. I hate to buy something I don't think I can sell. If it were $800 I'd buy it in a nanosecond. If it were $3000 I'd pass without a second thought. Naturally, it's just low enough to catch my interest .. What do you guys think of the usefulness, resaleability and value of such a machine? It looks quite a bit like these: http://www.gerlingersteel.com/images...ers/SM314U.jpg http://www.ebmachinery.org/SCOTCHMAN_35_TON_WB.html This is a newer 35 ton machine with specs: http://www.westbrook-eng.com/specifications/x4976.htm To email me see http://www.tinyisland.com/email.html Thanks! Grant Erwin Kirkland, Washington It could be useful, but I hate punches mounted inside a frame. It makes it near impossible to punch holes in large pieces. I prefer the Uni-Hydro design for small Ironworkers. It gives you a punch with an open C-frame on one end. Much more useful. Like this http://www.unihydro.com/www/unihydro/80-24.html Aaron has a Uni-Hydro in his shop in Ballard. He loves that thing. |
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actual practical value of old 35 ton ironworker?
About 3 years ago we saw a 60 ton Scotsman sell for almost 7K. It was well
worn and I would say no less than 30 years old. As usual it was a well advertised auction where people were paying way way too much for junk. The guy that bought the ironworker was very upset when he found out the large cabinent of dies didn't go with the machine but were sold later on during the auction and he didn't end up with them. As stated in the previous post the outside die machines are much more versitile. tim |
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actual practical value of old 35 ton ironworker?
Scotchmans were made back in Manitoba if I recall and they work but they are
a bottom budget ironworker. No wonder he has a tough time selling it. Randy "Grant Erwin" wrote in message ... There's a machinery dealer in my area (W. Washington) who has a 35-ton Scotchman ironworker for sale. It looks pretty old but he repainted it and did a good job but used cheap light blue paint. It runs on 220V 3ph power which I have available. It has a shear which can cut 10" wide 1/4" thick steel or 6" wide 1/2" steel. It also has an angle shear which can cut 3x3x1/4" angle (square cut) or 2x2x1/4" angle (miter cut). It also has a bunch of punches. New blades (not installed) for the angle shear and bar shear. Really old electrical controls, but functional. Little bit of cavitation whine from the hydraulic pump but no sign of leaks. Basically, it's probably a 30 year old little ironworker. I could get a *lot* of use out of it but of course, being a machinery dealer, he is asking more than I want to pay. Also, it isn't really very big as ironworkers go. It does have the original manual (reproduced typewritten pages, looks very '60s). He has been advertising it locally and seems to be having a hard time selling it. I hate to buy something I don't think I can sell. If it were $800 I'd buy it in a nanosecond. If it were $3000 I'd pass without a second thought. Naturally, it's just low enough to catch my interest .. What do you guys think of the usefulness, resaleability and value of such a machine? It looks quite a bit like these: http://www.gerlingersteel.com/images...ers/SM314U.jpg http://www.ebmachinery.org/SCOTCHMAN_35_TON_WB.html This is a newer 35 ton machine with specs: http://www.westbrook-eng.com/specifications/x4976.htm To email me see http://www.tinyisland.com/email.html Thanks! Grant Erwin Kirkland, Washington |
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