My basic rule was:

If the punishment was worse than the reasonably expected outcome of the
action,
over time, don't do it.

Example: child runs into street, spank. Child talks back, don't spank.

I'll post anecdotal results in 30 or 40 years.

Dan

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When a child misbehaves, stick him in the corner.

Minor offense, he can sit facing outward.
Moderate offense, he stands with his nose in the corner.
Serious offense, he kneels with nose in the corner.

Only spanking offense: Leaving the corner when put in it for punishment.

How to administer spankings: 1) Never spank when your ****ed. 2) Put a
lot of drama into it, use fear and expectation more than pain. 3) Use a
softly rolled up newspaper, as it makes a lot of noise and doesn't sting
as much. The noise and the expectation of do the work for you. 4) The
newspaper trick almost always work. If not, then you have to escalate to
the bare hand. Never use belts, hotwheel tracks or such, as you can't
feel what your doing.

With any luck, after one or two spankings, you'll never have to do it
again and you can always use the corner. Of course, genetics give people
different dispositions. This technique may or may not work in your family.