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Dave Hinz
 
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 14:48:54 -0500, Upscale wrote:
"Doug Miller" wrote in message news:ItZgf.1236
Of course. Most law abiding Canadians don't have guns so it makes sense

that
the criminal element who do have guns are more likely to use them.


And this is better exactly how?


The fewer guns there are in society, the fewer times they're going to be
used.


"used" doesn't tell the story. It's how they're _being_ used that
matters. I "use" my guns all the time, for their intended
purposes...recreation, investment, enjoyment, historical study,
engineering insights, and so on.

You seem to think that only criminals use guns. How many law abiding
citizens have shot someone in a fit of rage or simply when they've lost
their temper?


By definition, zero.

How many kids have been shot accidentally when play with their
parent's gun? How many accidents have there been?


More than there should be, of course. How many defensive uses of
firearms happen, which don't involve a shot being fired?

How many shootings have happened simply because a gun has been available
instead of a knife, or baseball bat or even fists. While those three things
can definitely kill, they don't come close to inflicting the carnage on the
human body that a bullet can.


Again, you're lumping all gun use into the same category. Not all of
us are criminals.

Is that simple enough an explanation for you?


It gives good insight into your limited understanding of the situation,
yes, but I'm guessing that's not what you meant.

You seem to think that just because the US permits it's citizens the
greatest latitude of human rights anywhere, it's necessary for everyone to
go out and partake of all those rights. While owning a gun is one your
rights, it doesn't for one second mean that it's a good right. The human
species it too self centred and too arrogant to know any better.


And you'd rather have me disarmed while the criminals run around knowing
they're safe, then? After all, the criminals won't give up their guns,
because, _they're criminals_. By definition, they don't follow laws,
you see. So, if honest people _do_ disarm, and the dishonest people
_don't_ disarm, the only people who are safer, are the criminals.

Not my idea of a good thing.