"Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message
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"Dave Lyon" wrote in message
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Good parenting is lots of hard work.

Yep! It is. And the parents should be consistent, and have a back bone.



And that is what I think is the real answer to this debate! Kids don't need
more friends, that's not a parents job, they need parents that will stand up
and do the right thing even if it means the kids will be upset with them.
And, they need to do it every time!

Depending on the child, many different methods of parenting may work, but
you cannot substitute for being consistent.