CBHVAC wrote
Rod Speed wrote
DJ wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Joseph Meehan wrote
Rod Speed wrote

Codes that allow unvented room heaters
tell us nothing about clothes dryers.

Wrong. They do show that unvented natural
gas room heaters are perfectly safe.

Rod, being insulting is one thing, but using lack of logic to try
and prove that something is safe when it is not is serious.

Wrong, as always.

Someone might take your foolishness as fact

That statement that unvented natural gas room
heaters are perfectly safe is fact, stupid.

Hey Rod, I think

Hey gutless, not a shred of evidence that you are
actually capable of thought, or anything else at all, either.

you've got that "unvented natural gas room heater" stuck up your ass.

Your pathetic little deviant fantasys are your problem, gutless.

It seems to be applying pressure to your brain.

Not a shred of evidence that you have
anything other than ear to ear dog ****.

If somehow you can manage to remove it, maybe then you might
realize the thread is about clothes dryers, not room heaters...

Pathetic, really. The FACT that unvented natural gas room
heaters are perfectly safe PROVES that its perfectly safe
to vent a clothes dryer into the house if you want to do that.

reams of your puerile **** any 2 year old could
leave for dead flushed where it belongs

Without adding more to the flame part...

I think Rod might be mis-informed.

We'll see...

Yes, its safe, to a point, to use a heater labeled unvented in a room,
however, there are precautions even for this, as anyone that is in the heating
trade can tell you.

And the reality is that **** all die with unvented natural gas room
heaters when those precautions are ignored. Essentially zero.

Even these units come with an O2 sensor that shuts the unit off in the event
of an improper burn condition that could possibly kill you..

Plenty of them dont, particularly the unvented kerosine room heaters.

They are also designed to burn as clean as we know how to make them currently,
and they still emit as a byproduct CO, CO2 and H2O.

**** all CO in practice, just like with unvented
natural gas stoves and ovens etc too.

Two of the above CAN kill you as we all know.

In theory, yes. In practice they dont, which is why the code allows unvented
natural gas room heaters and unvented natural gas stoves and ovens too.

Ok..all three can, but its gonna take alot of water vapor from that NG, or LPG
to get that much water.

And in practice sweet **** all ever die from unvented
natural gas room heaters, stoves and ovens.

A dryer, is a completely different animal.

Like hell it is.

It is NOT designed to heat the home, it is NOT designed to burn as clean as a
heater.

Irrelevant. And you can prove that by measuring the
CO level too. And you can get completely neurotic and
have a CO sensor with any of those gas appliances too.

The metering, burn location and heat exchanger, the entire design of it, it
NOT to be vented into the home, as the warnings on the units state. More than
once we have been called out on a CO detector call, to find that the dryer was
unhooked from the
vent, and someone was trying to use it for "free" heat.

And in practice **** all ever die in that situation.

A dryer burn system, is closer to a furnace than you might want to admit.

In practice there is sweet **** all in it with CO and CO2 production.

Obviously you will get more water in the discharge
air given that its is after all a dryer. That aint gunna
kill you because you dont die with even 100% RH.

Its the same reason that even a stove, in a kitchen, if its gas, must have a
hood system that is vented outside.

That is complete pig ignorant drivel.

While it sounds like a good idea, to some, the proof is simple. Get your hands
on a CO detector, not the POS that is sold at Lowes and Home Depot, but a hand
held, certified detector, like a FLuke..

Gets sillier by the minute. The cheap ones are
fine for CO levels that are a real health risk.

they run about $240 for a good one, and check the level of CO at your dryer
vent....you will be surprised.

Nope. And you wont with a unvented natural gas room heater either.

CO posioning isnt a joke, its real, and it happens over silly stuff....

In practice no one dies when they
choose to vent their drier into the house.

trying to run a furnace with a gas valve thats adjusted wrong, a crack in the
heat exchanger....a dryer that the limit switch
goes bad and allows the valve to fire all the time its running.....

In practice no one dies when they
choose to vent their drier into the house.

Bet you cant list even a single example of that ever happening.