I have read several of your post that degenerate into your bitterness toward
Gunner. Why don't you try shunning him?

There is more than one type of pump. Many hand pumps can overcome your 33
foot problem.

--

Ron Thompson
On the Beautiful Mississippi Gulf Coast
USA

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"erniegalts" wrote in message
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 05:41:23 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On 13 Jul 2003 18:32:51 -0700, jim rozen
wrote:

In article , Gunner says...

A thread came up a day or three ago, about building some sort of motor
to run a small generator or a belt to supply power to :stuff: in
either remote locations or in the event of a long term power failure.

I think that in most remote locations the major factor would
be lack of fuel. So it would have to take into account
the local fuel supply if any. Most remote areas you find
folks pumping or lifting water by hand or other human power.

That's probably the most important thing an engine can do.

For a non-remote area the most important thing would be
sanitation, water supply (again) and garbage disposal.
A good reason to be out of a populated area where one
could have a) an outhouse, b) a hand-pump well.

Some places water wells are far too deep to be able to operate a hand
pump, while modifying an generator or mechanical pump to run from a
belt drive would not be that hard.

No matter what type of a "surface pump" the best that can be done is
to create a vacuum so that atmospheric pressure will force water to
the surface from below. 33 feet or so from memory, although if you
want the exact value of suction you could look up the range of
atmospheric pressures in your locality.

As many of us could tell you, Gunner, it wouldn't matter even if you
produced an ideal vacuum at the surface by whatever means, you cannot
overcome physical laws. Whatever suction you can produce, there is
only so much atmospheric pressure at any given moment to bring water
to the surface.

There are limits to anything, you know. Including your damned foul
lie about me.

No real excuse for such a lie for you or your apparent supporters.

However, your admission that it is a lie might help in some ways.

Won't restore any possible "friendship" of course. You have gone well
beyond that possibility.

... Or don't you realize that some statements or actions are simply
"totally unacceptable" to fellow humans?





If you really wanted to stay connected to civilization
then one of those wind-up battery radios would be a
nice touch. Honestly I don't think an engine would
be of much use unless one were in a large agricultural
setting and most of those tended to be large cast iron
single-jug hit and miss types. Simple, reliable, belt
drive for all the machines.

Jim

Its not a matter of staying connected, but the ability to run tools by
either electrical generation or belt drive thats important.

Gunner

"What do you call someone in possesion of all the facts?
Paranoid.-William Burroughs