"Glenn" wrote in message
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"Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message
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"jim rozen" wrote in message
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In article , John Chase
says...

In essence, you performed "involuntary servitude", as prohibited by
USConst.
Amdt. XIII.

This is the *biggest* line of horse**** propogated here in
recent times.

Unless you are willing to say that paying *any* income tax is likewise
the same involuntary servitude. g

Social security is a tax to fund an entitlement program. It takes
money from those with money, and gives that money to somebody else.
Nothing more, nothing less. It's not an investment. It's not a
savings plan. It's not an account. There's no ROI. It's a tax,
you have to pay it. The gummint is simply, flat out, taking your
money and giving to somebody else. Full stop.

Get over it.

Jim

That's certainly the way I found it when I wanted to opt out. I
couldn't.
You don't pay the *tax*, your property is seized. Simple as that.

Harold

Well I am 53 years old and have something like 4 quarters of SS credit.
Worked all my life too. So there are ways around it
Glenn


It wasn't to be for me, especially when self employed. I handled a lot of
defense work, and was paid by check from major corporations. I handled no
cash, so hiding money certainly wasn't an option, even if I was so inclined.
Unless I was missing something, there was no way to avoid accounting for my
income. Could be I could have gotten creative and withdrawn funds in any
way but income. Dunno. All that does is send up the red flag that you're
trying to avoid paying your fair share.

I bitched and moaned about SS for years, but now that I'm drawing a little
of it back, the pain has subsided. I can only hope that for those that
have contributed that there will still be something available. None of us
should get ripped off by a system that was doomed to failure from day one.
To me, it appears to be nothing more than a pyramid scheme. A tool used by
certain politicians to buy votes at one point in time.

Harold