"Ken Davey" wrote in message
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tillius wrote:


If that wasn't so, surely they would have designed these programs to
really HELP those in need. The fact is, they're not designed that way
and they don't work that way.

Turn a blind eye to the slavery that these people in need have been
sold into is you wish. Unless you're one of the elistists, if you just
sit by, buy their lies, and let them get away with it, you'll end up
one of the slaves as well.

What a total crock of ****!

You wish.

I am not on the public dole.

I don't see where anybody said you are.

I have been - when the need was there.
Otherwise I have pulled my weight and have paid my taxes so that others in
need could be helped!

We'd both be better off if you'd be charitable with YOUR OWN resources, and
allow me to do the same with mine. But obviously, you don't trust me to be
charitable, so you subscribe to the notion that I should be FORCED to be
charitable according to YOUR wishes. That, sir, is the very definition of
slavery.

Close to me are several people who are not able to cope with life without
social assistance.

Why is that MY problem?

Their needs are varied - from physical disabibities stemimng from work
related injuries to physical and mental disabilities from birth.

Again, why is that MY problem?

I would rather live in a society that takes care of these people than the
dollar-first uncaring system that the USA exemplifies.

Then why are you here?

In fact - taking care costs less in the long run than ignoring the
problem!
Any minor exploitation of this sort of system is just that - minor.

So when does "minor" become "major"? A penny isn't worth much these days,
but a thousand pennies is ten dollars, a million pennies is ten thousand
dollars, a billion pennies is ten million dollars, ..... But no merchant
should take umbrage if you "short" him a penny or two, right? No employee
of yours should complain if, having earned (say) $100.00, you pay him only
$99.95, right? "After all, it's only a nickel." How many nickels does it
take before "you're talking real money"?

You are perfectly free to accept for yourself less than the value you have
earned. You are NOT free to FORCE me to accept for myself less than the
value I have earned.

Scammers sometimes get caught. So what?
The good outdoes the possible bad.
It is just a matter of administration - cheap at half the price.
Anyone saying different is scamming for their own interests.
The least of our society must have hope.

How many are "have nots" because they cannot? How many are "have nots"
because they WILL NOT?

None are so blind as those who WILL NOT see.

-jc-