On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 18:58:03 -0800, xray
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:23:52 GMT, Gunner Asch
wrote:

Indeed. And some of it explains the decline in this little corner of
our civilization.


And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but
considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

"shopping"



Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner