On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 05:03:50 GMT, "George E. Cawthon"
wrote:
mm wrote:
On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 05:04:02 GMT, "George E. Cawthon"
wrote:
I would go with a Contractor, Maybe a Cabinet shop. Get As close as
possible to the sink You can run your water and waste behind the cab.The
water and waste are easy Put a angle stop with outlets on the Hot water. The
waste goes to a air cap on the sink and then to the Disposal.
I'm curious what is an air cap? My disposal hose
currently and on the previous disposal ran
directly to a fitting on the disposal. I just
finished fixing a sink for another person (leaks,
etc.) and the drain went directly to a fitting on
the sink drain pipe (just below the sinking basket
(not disposal).
I probably made a mistake just now when I called it an airgap.
An air cap is visible at the top of the sink, to the right usually of
the faucet. It appears as a chromer cap and is mounted in the hole
that might otherwise have held the soap bottle or the vegetable
sprayer.
You are WAY out of my league. I've never seen
such a thing. Heck I've never see a hole that
would hold a soap bottle. I've seen and have a
It's hard to believe I've surpassed someone by knowing about soap
bottles, but I'll settle for anything these days.
sprayer (doesn't have anything to do with
vegetables tho, suppose you could use if to spray
vegetable, but most use it to spray plates and
utensils.
I only use mine to fill things that won't fit under the faucet, but my
recollection is that when these first came out (in the 50's or 60's)
they were called vegetable sprayers. Referring to their use in
washing fresh vegetables.
The drain water of the dishwasher goes up there, and then down to the
disposal. It's pumped up there, and uses gravity to get to the
disposal. Like a water fountain bubbler. Since it's not a closed
tube, it can't siphon. I forget what direction the siphoning would go
in, but it has something to do with germs. 
I can see how that would work, just never seen
one. Dish washers usually suggest that you route
the hose up as high as possible before attaching
I've only had two, one when I was 10 and the other when I was 36. I
probably read the owner's manual for the second one, but it's been 22
years. (still works fine and it's 26 years old. The only problem was
the chicken bone I mentioned above. I don't bother much cleaning the
dishes in advance. If they come out dirty, and once in a while they
do, I scrub them in the sink and wash them again.
to the drain or disposal. That essentially stops
siphoning. Course if you drain is plugged it
could siphon back to the washer if the water got
as high as the maximum height of the hose. But
then, you would have a lot more to worry about
than a few bacteria in your washer, which could
easily be killed by just running the washer anyway.
Ah me, what complicated things people think up.
I dont' remember why the anti-siphon is thought to be necessary, but
it was a good reason. Or was that the sprinkler system?
I guess it was that water in a clogged disposal or a clogged trap
would be siphoned back to the dishwasher.
You'e right it could be killed by running the washer, but as long as
the drain is clogged, you can't really do that. So not only would the
drain have a surface several inches below the sink that was
disgusting, but there wouldbe a bigger surface visible in the
dishwasher that was disgusting. Might smell bad after a day or two.
I myself have never had a clogged toilet or a clogged drain (except
for that chicken bone incident, which left nothing disgusting in the
dishwasher, just mildly dirty water) so, like you, it's hard for me
to worry about this.
Plus, I would have liked to have saved that hole for a soap dispenser
or a vegetable sprayer.
but when I got the new faucet, the sprayer
mounted in the faucet escutcheon, sort of in place of a bolt. So I
didn't need the hole. (and if the dishwasher hadn't required a hole,
they probably would have bought a sink with no hole. Catch 22.)
And the soap dispenser turned out to be 40 dollars iirc, an exorbitant
price for something that might be hard to refill, when I can use a
plastic bottle on the counter for free.
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