Gunner Asch wrote:

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LOL...Ah Jon? A 3006 will just about punch an inch of CRS at 100 yrds

3006 ammunition is 7.62 mm calibre, isn't it? I don't know much about
guns, but I do recall that the armour used on the famous "Pig" trucks in
Northern Ireland was a little under an inch thick, and this was regarded
as being adequate protection against the armour piercing 7.62 mm rounds
available to the IRA in the 1970s. Now it was definitely welded steel
armour, but it may not have been mild steel, and I'm not sure of the
range at which it offered protection, but the British Army found that it
did the job.


The diameter of the bullet is 7.62, indeed, but its NOT the same as
the CARTRIDGE designated as the 7.62 x51, which is what the FN-FAL
fired..the basiclly equivelent of our 308 Winchester. The FN-FAL being
the rifle most commonly carried by the Tommies in NA until the *******
SA-80 came into service.

The armor on the Saracen/ BMP type scout vehicles is an alloy, and
well heat treated. Often T1 plate..and its much much tougher than
CRS...chuckle...its a bitch to machine. Very much work hardening.

The Humber Pig used double thick armor with an airspace between
them..at least the later models did...MkII IRRC. Very effective
against hard shot small arms and SOME shaped charges.

That's interesting. I've examined several Pigs (including the Mark IIs)
and haven't been able to discern an airspace, so I thought it might be a
myth. Either the airspace is very small, or it wasn't present on all
Mark II vehicles. A guy who is a real Pig enthusiast told me he'd never
seen two identical Pigs, so the latter is entirely possible.

In my opinion, the Pig is the coolest looking armoured vehicle ever
made. It seems it did a pretty good job in Ulster, too, and was lot
cheaper than the Saracen. I saw one for sale for £650 recently. If I'd
had some spare cash and covered storage I would have bought it. Maybe
one day I'll get one...

Chris