Has anyone got a view on the "Digitemp" airconditioner units from
Xpelair? (www.xpelair.co.uk)

They seem like a good idea as you don't need an external unit but are
they actually any good in practice?

Does anyone know of an alternative machines that ducts through the
wall in the same way?

(I'm not after a mobile unit)

sPoNiX

In article , S--p--o--n--i--x wrote:
Has anyone got a view on the "Digitemp" airconditioner units from
Xpelair? (www.xpelair.co.uk)

They seem like a good idea as you don't need an external unit but
are they actually any good in practice?

Does anyone know of an alternative machines that ducts through
the wall in the same way?

From a quick look the one downside seems to be that they are quite bulky
- about the same as a storage heater.

Last week B&Q had a new split system air conditioner for £499.

http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/produc...Locat ion=top

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In article ,
s--p--o--n--i--x wrote:
Has anyone got a view on the "Digitemp" airconditioner units from
Xpelair? (www.xpelair.co.uk)

They seem like a good idea as you don't need an external unit but are
they actually any good in practice?

These sound like the type that you fill with water, and they vent warm air
to the outside? Can't check on this as the site seems to use a version of
Flash my browser doesn't support.

If so, they're not a patch on the conventional 'heat exchanger outside'
type.

On location filming indoors in warm weather really needs a decent portable
cooler - and expense doesn't come into it. But nothing on the market works
as well as the old fashioned type - which unfortunately isn't really
portable.

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s--p--o--n--i--x wrote:
Has anyone got a view on the "Digitemp" airconditioner units from
Xpelair? (www.xpelair.co.uk)

not waiting all day for a silly site. a/c is not the best tech though,
in most cases one can run an earthpipe for less cost that delivers more
coolth, and at a fraction of the energy use / run cost.

Whole house fans have their place too, though thyeyre not as pwoerful
as eraethpipes..


NT

What's an Earth Pipe?

A pipe that runs under the garden, 4" wide, 20' long. Fan air in via it
and in summer the air will be cold.

add a heat exchanger inside the house to keep out any trace of mould
from condensation.

Less cost than ac if you diy (dig it yourself), a small fraction the
run cost and energy use.


NT

On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:03:30 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
s--p--o--n--i--x wrote:
Has anyone got a view on the "Digitemp" airconditioner units from
Xpelair? (www.xpelair.co.uk)

They seem like a good idea as you don't need an external unit but are
they actually any good in practice?

These sound like the type that you fill with water, and they vent warm air
to the outside? Can't check on this as the site seems to use a version of
Flash my browser doesn't support.

They *say* that they are air conditioners, not those evaporative
things.

On 9 Mar 2005 16:26:11 -0800, wrote:

What's an Earth Pipe?

A pipe that runs under the garden, 4" wide, 20' long. Fan air in via it
and in summer the air will be cold.

add a heat exchanger inside the house to keep out any trace of mould
from condensation.

Less cost than ac if you diy (dig it yourself), a small fraction the
run cost and energy use.

Do these really work? Why aren't they widely used?

sPoNiX

"s--p--o--n--i--x" wrote in message
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On 9 Mar 2005 16:26:11 -0800, wrote:

What's an Earth Pipe?

A pipe that runs under the garden, 4" wide, 20' long. Fan air in via it
and in summer the air will be cold.

add a heat exchanger inside the house to keep out any trace of mould
from condensation.

Less cost than ac if you diy (dig it yourself), a small fraction the
run cost and energy use.

Do these really work? Why aren't they widely used?


Probably because they really need to be about 3' down :-)
But yes they work, though I would recommend several 2' flexible pipes (the
green ones don't insulate the heat) in parallel to get more surface area.

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 21:23:44 -0000, "Mike" wrote:


"s--p--o--n--i--x" wrote in message
...
On 9 Mar 2005 16:26:11 -0800, wrote:

What's an Earth Pipe?

A pipe that runs under the garden, 4" wide, 20' long. Fan air in via it
and in summer the air will be cold.

add a heat exchanger inside the house to keep out any trace of mould
from condensation.

Less cost than ac if you diy (dig it yourself), a small fraction the
run cost and energy use.

Do these really work? Why aren't they widely used?


Probably because they really need to be about 3' down :-)
But yes they work, though I would recommend several 2' flexible pipes (the
green ones don't insulate the heat) in parallel to get more surface area.

How much cooling can you expect? Are there any sites on the internet?

s--p--o--n--i--x wrote:
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 21:23:44 -0000, "Mike" wrote:

What's an Earth Pipe?

How much cooling can you expect? Are there any sites on the internet?

The only place I know that could probably answer that is
news:alt.solar.thermal.

I know that practical results from doing it have produced all the
coolth wanted.

I suggest using a heat exchanger on the house end to avoid sucking air
in past mould which can form in teh pipe due to condensation. Such
might be a car rad and fan, with the earthpipe air going thru the rad
and outside. However its normally been done with no exchanger, just
piped air into the house.

This isnt something likely to be taken up by ac installers because it
would let people nkow that anyone can install ac themselves, and that
the installer's service isnt really needed. Many professional products
routinely overcomplicate to put customers off diying, and to help
justify the price.


NT

s--p--o--n--i--x wrote:

Probably because they really need to be about 3' down :-)
But yes they work, though I would recommend several 2' flexible pipes (the
green ones don't insulate the heat) in parallel to get more surface area.


How much cooling can you expect? Are there any sites on the internet?

This any help?
http://www.iimahd.ernet.in/publicati...irjaSharan.pdf


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