Girlfriend has moved into a new built Persimmon home in January. She wants
me to put up an outside tap. No issues with plumbing it - but the pipes in
the home are gray plastic in appearance types. All joints have silver
"rings" round them. I'll need to get the Digital Camera out and take
photos. There used on the heating pipes as well.

Anyone any idea what these are - I assume push to fit, but some joints are
down with old style compression's too.

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Regards


SantaUK

On Mon, 24 May 2004 00:36:18 +0100, "SantaUK" strung
together this:

Girlfriend has moved into a new built Persimmon home in January. She wants
me to put up an outside tap. No issues with plumbing it - but the pipes in
the home are gray plastic in appearance types. All joints have silver
"rings" round them. I'll need to get the Digital Camera out and take
photos. There used on the heating pipes as well.

Anyone any idea what these are -

Sound's like Marley Equator fittings. Have a google on them.

I assume push to fit,

Yep, but not dismantleable though.

but some joints are
down with old style compression's too.

That's fine, as long as the pipe has the coorect inserts or liners, erm,
inserted. These are metal reinforcing rings that go on the inside of the pipe to
prevent deformation.
I'm assuming there's meant to be a question in there somewhere, if it was how do
I connect the new pipes to the plastic pipework then it depends what the new
pipe is. Personally I'd use copper through the wall, and through the service
valve inside then just cut a tee into the plastic pipe inside, remembering to
use the liners. The tee could be conpression or a matching Marley Equator.
--

SJW
A.C.S. Ltd

"Lurch" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 May 2004 00:36:18 +0100, "SantaUK" strung
together this:

Girlfriend has moved into a new built Persimmon home in January. She
wants
me to put up an outside tap. No issues with plumbing it - but the pipes
in
the home are gray plastic in appearance types. All joints have silver
"rings" round them. I'll need to get the Digital Camera out and take
photos. There used on the heating pipes as well.

Anyone any idea what these are -

Sound's like Marley Equator fittings. Have a google on them.

I assume push to fit,

Yep, but not dismantleable though.

Tsk,tsk. Mr Pole, they are dismountable. They supply a special plastic
tool of this.

but some joints are
down with old style compression's too.

That's fine, as long as the pipe has the coorect inserts or liners, erm,
inserted. These are metal reinforcing rings that go on the inside of the
pipe to
prevent deformation.
I'm assuming there's meant to be a question in there somewhere, if it was
how do
I connect the new pipes to the plastic pipework then it depends what the
new
pipe is. Personally I'd use copper through the wall, and through the
service
valve inside then just cut a tee into the plastic pipe inside, remembering
to
use the liners. The tee could be conpression or a matching Marley Equator.
--

SJW
A.C.S. Ltd

"SantaUK" wrote in message
.. .

Girlfriend has moved into a new built Persimmon home in January. She
wants
me to put up an outside tap. No issues with plumbing it - but the pipes
in
the home are gray plastic in appearance types. All joints have silver
"rings" round them. I'll need to get the Digital Camera out and take
photos. There used on the heating pipes as well.

Anyone any idea what these are - I assume push to fit, but some joints are
down with old style compression's too.

Use a plastic tap for outside as it is les likely to freeze up.

I also thought it might be Equator, PEX.

I'd do all the connection in Equator. The advantage over copper is
that it won't split if it should freeze. I'd mortar a 22mm copper pipe
sleeve into the wall, pack the space between the two pipes with
insulation material and mastic it in.

You'd probably need a double-check valve, to prevent the contents of
your hose, pond, paddling pool, etc., being syphoned back into the
mains if the pressure should fail. Anyone care to quote chapter &
verse of the relevant regulations?

IMM wrote:

Use a plastic tap for outside as it is les likely to freeze up.

No, they aren't. They are just less likely to burst. But since it's very
rare for taps to burst...

--
Grunff

"Aidan" wrote in message
om...
I also thought it might be Equator, PEX.

I'd do all the connection in Equator. The advantage over copper is
that it won't split if it should freeze. I'd mortar a 22mm copper pipe
sleeve into the wall, pack the space between the two pipes with
insulation material and mastic it in.

You'd probably need a double-check valve, to prevent the contents of
your hose, pond, paddling pool, etc., being syphoned back into the
mains if the pressure should fail. Anyone care to quote chapter &
verse of the relevant regulations?

You are right. A double check valve is needed. Some taps now have them
built-in.

In article ,
Grunff wrote:
Use a plastic tap for outside as it is les likely to freeze up.

No, they aren't. They are just less likely to burst. But since it's very
rare for taps to burst...

Can you get a plastic outdoor tap - the sort you can attach an ordinary
hose to? I'd have thought it too weak - the threads wouldn't last five
minutes.

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Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

Thats the stuff m8 - thanks for that.

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Regards


M Millar
"Lurch" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 May 2004 00:36:18 +0100, "SantaUK" strung
together this:

Girlfriend has moved into a new built Persimmon home in January. She
wants
me to put up an outside tap. No issues with plumbing it - but the pipes
in
the home are gray plastic in appearance types. All joints have silver
"rings" round them. I'll need to get the Digital Camera out and take
photos. There used on the heating pipes as well.

Anyone any idea what these are -

Sound's like Marley Equator fittings. Have a google on them.

I assume push to fit,

Yep, but not dismantleable though.

but some joints are
down with old style compression's too.

That's fine, as long as the pipe has the coorect inserts or liners, erm,
inserted. These are metal reinforcing rings that go on the inside of the
pipe to
prevent deformation.
I'm assuming there's meant to be a question in there somewhere, if it was
how do
I connect the new pipes to the plastic pipework then it depends what the
new
pipe is. Personally I'd use copper through the wall, and through the
service
valve inside then just cut a tee into the plastic pipe inside, remembering
to
use the liners. The tee could be conpression or a matching Marley Equator.
--

SJW
A.C.S. Ltd

"Grunff" wrote in message
...
IMM wrote:

Use a plastic tap for outside as it is less likely to freeze up.

No, they aren't. They are just less likely to burst. But since it's very
rare for taps to burst...

--
Grunff
My replacement brass outside tap with check valve blows at the drain point
at the slightest provocation.
The small brass drain screw and rubber washer seem too loose.
Never had this problem with the old non-check valve tap.
What the OP won't be able to use is those outside tap kits they sell
everywhere,
as those have a clamp on tap for the inside which has to go onto copper.

On Mon, 24 May 2004 10:07:12 +0100, Dave Plowman
strung together this:

Can you get a plastic outdoor tap - the sort you can attach an ordinary
hose to?

You can, but they're crap.

I'd have thought it too weak - the threads wouldn't last five
minutes.

Since when was IMM concened with offering people round here sound and reasonable
advice?
--

SJW
A.C.S. Ltd

On Mon, 24 May 2004 08:26:50 +0100, "IMM" strung together
this:

Tsk,tsk. Mr Pole, they are dismountable. They supply a special plastic
tool of this.

Seeing as no-one else has told you otherwise, I'll assume you're correct. I
still think you're a pillock though.
--

SJW
A.C.S. Ltd

Dave Plowman wrote:

Can you get a plastic outdoor tap - the sort you can attach an ordinary
hose to? I'd have thought it too weak - the threads wouldn't last five
minutes.

I have seen them, but they aren't widely available - probably because of
the mechanical weakness.

--
Grunff

"Lurch" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 May 2004 08:26:50 +0100, "IMM" strung
together
this:

Tsk,tsk. Mr Pole, they are dismountable. They supply a special plastic
tool of this.

Seeing as no-one else has told you otherwise, I'll assume you're correct.
I
still think you're a pillock though.

Mr Pole, you are bitter and twisted. You have been proven pillock, and know
nothing of pipework, yet continue to give misguided advise on topic you
notjing at all. Have you tried therapy? I will do you good.

On Mon, 24 May 2004 12:03:13 +0100, "IMM" strung together
this:

Mr Pole, you are bitter and twisted.

I know.

You have been proven pillock,

I missed that one, care to provide a link possibly.

and know
nothing of pipework, yet continue to give misguided advise on topic you
notjing at all.

The words pot and kettle spring to mind. At least I'll admit my mistakes,
whereas you seem to completely ignore the fact that you just write drivel.

Have you tried therapy?

No, I'm too tight.

I will do you good.

No you won't.
--

SJW
A.C.S. Ltd

"Lurch" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 May 2004 12:03:13 +0100, "IMM" strung
together
this:

Mr Pole, you are bitter and twisted.

I know.

Self awareness. A progression.

You have been proven pillock,

I missed that one, care to provide a link possibly.

and know
nothing of pipework, yet continue to
give misguided advise on topic you
nothing at all.

The words pot and kettle spring to mind. At least I'll admit my mistakes,
whereas you seem to completely ignore the fact that you just write drivel.

Mr Pole, now Bean you have low attention span, so most of what you read,
beside Enid Blyton writings, would appear drivel.

Have you tried therapy?

No, I'm too tight.

You need to find the money and quick.

It will do you good.

No you won't.

Yes it will.

IMM wrote:
snip



It will do you good.


No you won't.


Yes it will.



CHEAT your original post said "I will do you good" which as Lurch
pointed out is unlikely

"Nick Brooks" wrote in message
...
IMM wrote:
snip

It will do you good.

No you won't.

Yes it will.

CHEAT your original post said
"I will do you good" which as Lurch
pointed out is unlikely

I will do him good as well. The first thing he has to do is Google all my
uk.d-i-y posts, print them off, and read them all 4 times a day. This is
the first stage of Mr Pole, becoming a more complete person, instead of the
shambles he now is.

On Mon, 24 May 2004 13:17:13 +0100, "IMM" strung together
this:

It will do you good.

No you won't.

Yes it will.

See, you've clearly spotted a mistake that you made, and rather than admitting
it decided to try and alter it in later posts. You obviously have some sort of
problem(s).
--

SJW
A.C.S. Ltd

In article ,
IMM wrote:
I will do him good as well. The first thing he has to do is Google all
my uk.d-i-y posts, print them off, and read them all 4 times a day.

Congratulations. You've just invented the most horrible torture. Ever
thought of a career in Iraq? I'll help with the ticket...

--
*One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

"Dave Plowman" wrote in message
...
In article ,
IMM wrote:
I will do him good as well. The first thing he has to do is Google all
my uk.d-i-y posts, print them off, and read them all 4 times a day.

Congratulations. You've just invented the most horrible torture. Ever
thought of a career in Iraq? I'll help with the ticket...



Aaaaaaggggggrrrrrhhhhh !!!!!!!!! That sounds horrible. I wouldn't wish it on
my worst enemy.


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In article , Dave Plowman
writes

Congratulations. You've just invented the most horrible torture. Ever
thought of a career in Iraq? I'll help with the ticket..

So will I, provided it's one way.

And, just in, news from Iraq:

http://www.ryano.net/iraq/?993577

--
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Q. What's the most annoying thing on Usenet?

Grunff wrote in message ...
IMM wrote:

Use a plastic tap for outside as it is les likely to freeze up.

No, they aren't. They are just less likely to burst. But since it's very
rare for taps to burst...

Assuming the plastic is a better insulator than metal then I would say
they are less likely to freeze up. How much longer they take to freeze
and whether it's a difference worth writing about, I don't know.

MBQ

MBQ wrote:

Assuming the plastic is a better insulator than metal then I would say
they are less likely to freeze up. How much longer they take to freeze
and whether it's a difference worth writing about, I don't know.

Of course there will be a very small difference - the brass tap will
freeze slightly sooner than the plastic tap - but the difference will be
so small as to be totally inconsequential.

--
Grunff

On Mon, 24 May 2004 15:32:18 +0100, Mike Tomlinson
wrote:

In article , Dave Plowman
writes

Congratulations. You've just invented the most horrible torture. Ever
thought of a career in Iraq? I'll help with the ticket..

So will I, provided it's one way.

And, just in, news from Iraq:

http://www.ryano.net/iraq/?993577

(splutter)

You git - there goes another hour for emergency keyboard/coffee separation.

--
Seen it all, done it all, can't remember most of it.

Mail john rather than nospam...

"Lurch" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 May 2004 13:17:13 +0100, "IMM" strung
together
this:

It will do you good.

No you won't.

Yes it will.

See, you've clearly spotted a mistake that you made, and rather than
admitting
it decided to try and alter it in later posts. You obviously have some
sort of
problem(s).

Bean, the therapy will also make you see life as it is too.

"Grunff" wrote in message
...
MBQ wrote:

Assuming the plastic is a better insulator than metal then I would say
they are less likely to freeze up. How much longer they take to freeze
and whether it's a difference worth writing about, I don't know.

Of course there will be a very small difference - the brass tap will
freeze slightly sooner than the plastic tap - but the difference will be
so small as to be totally inconsequential.

The plastic tap and pipe will expand and reform after freezing. Hence no
burst.

PS. Probably also sensible to put an isolating valve inside, adjacent
to the Tee. You will be able to isolate the outside tap and drain it
if you're expecting cold weather. Or else just isolate it, if you
should forget and it does freeze.

In message , Lurch
writes
On Mon, 24 May 2004 13:17:13 +0100, "IMM" strung together
this:

It will do you good.

No you won't.

Yes it will.

See, you've clearly spotted a mistake that you made, and rather than admitting
it decided to try and alter it in later posts. You obviously have some sort of
problem(s).
--
Reality interface incompatibility

--
geoff

"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message , Lurch
writes
On Mon, 24 May 2004 13:17:13 +0100, "IMM" strung
together
this:

It will do you good.

No you won't.

Yes it will.

See, you've clearly spotted a mistake that you made, and rather than
admitting
it decided to try and alter it in later posts. You obviously have some
sort of
problem(s).

Reality interface incompatibility

Maxie, you are a Trekkie. Now don't deny it.

IMM wrote:

The plastic tap and pipe will expand and reform after freezing. Hence no
burst.

Yes, I /know/ that, that's one of the reasons I like plastic pipe! -
have you even been following the thread??

The point is taps don't very often burst. Pipes do. Taps don't. Get it?

--
Grunff

On Mon, 24 May 2004 22:44:20 +0100, Grunff wrote:

IMM wrote:

The plastic tap and pipe will expand and reform after freezing. Hence no
burst.

Yes, I /know/ that, that's one of the reasons I like plastic pipe! -
have you even been following the thread??

The point is taps don't very often burst. Pipes do. Taps don't. Get it?


You'd think that a professional would know that....


..andy

To email, substitute .nospam with .gl

"Andy Hall" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 May 2004 22:44:20 +0100, Grunff wrote:

IMM wrote:

The plastic tap and pipe will expand and reform after freezing. Hence
no
burst.

Yes, I /know/ that, that's one of the reasons I like plastic pipe! -
have you even been following the thread??

The point is taps don't very often burst. Pipes do. Taps don't. Get it?

I have known taps to burst. Also there is usually a small piece of pipe
serving the tap. Get a behind the strapped bracket tap connector to avoid
this.

On Mon, 24 May 2004 17:34:49 +0100, "IMM" strung together
this:

Bean, the therapy will also make you see life as it is too.

I do see life as it is, it's ****ing crap.
--

SJW
A.C.S. Ltd

"Lurch" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 May 2004 17:34:49 +0100, "IMM" strung
together
this:

Bean, the therapy will also make you see life as it is too.

I do see life as it is, it's ****ing crap.

It's all coming out now. A negative view of life. Probably suicidal
tendencies. Try the Samaritans.

On Tue, 25 May 2004 21:29:56 +0100, "IMM" strung together
this:

A negative view of life.

No, realistic. You want to get your head out from up your arse and take a look
around.
--

SJW
A.C.S. Ltd

"Lurch" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 25 May 2004 21:29:56 +0100, "IMM" strung
together
this:

A negative view of life.

No, realistic. You want to get your head out from up your arse and take a
look
around.

It is a wonderful world. Wonderful.