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measuring for a recoil pad



 
 
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Old November 14th 05, 09:20 AM
SteveB
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How does one measure the length a gunstock should be on a long gun? I have
a Remington 1100 that I want to put a recoil pad on. When I put it up to my
shoulder, it looks like I am looking up the vent rib, which would mean to me
that the stock is too short. I am calling a gunsmith tomorrow to see how
much it costs for them to put a pad on it. I was just wondering, though, as
I am sure I can do a slip on pad for less. It is just I was wondering how
to measure for that.

Steve


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Old November 14th 05, 12:39 PM
Gunner Asch
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On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 01:20:20 -0800, "SteveB"
wrote:

How does one measure the length a gunstock should be on a long gun? I have
a Remington 1100 that I want to put a recoil pad on. When I put it up to my
shoulder, it looks like I am looking up the vent rib, which would mean to me
that the stock is too short. I am calling a gunsmith tomorrow to see how
much it costs for them to put a pad on it. I was just wondering, though, as
I am sure I can do a slip on pad for less. It is just I was wondering how
to measure for that.

Steve

The old tried and true method..which really is not all that precise
for everyone..is to hold the butt in the crook of your elbow, barrel
raised skywards..and the trigger should be at the first joint of your
trigger finger. Now if you have a long arm, or short neck, etc
etc..it may not hold true..but it should come close.

A better way..is to remove the butt plate, and make up a dowel with an
oval piece of masonite etc on one end. Tape your buttplate to the
oval, and slide the dowel up the hole in the buttstock, exposed when
you removed the butt plate.. Preferably a snug fit of the dowel in the
hole..then use that to determine what is the best length for your
physiology. Slide it in and out, while posting the arm to your
shoulder in various shooting positions until you find the best fit,
then measure from the outside of the buttplate to the ass end of the
buttstock. That distance is what you want to make up.

And if you need to make the stock longer..you simply use plates of
wood, aluminum, etc etc, milling them/it to the proper thickness
(subtracting the thickness of your butt pad) and then shaping them to
fit the contour of the buttstock and pad.

Wrap the last couple inches of your buttstock in electricians tape,
and it will be harder to ding the stock if you shape the plates ON the
shotgun using a disk or belt sander.

Simply making a spacer in other words..shrug. Its not hard to do.

You can also do cant, cast on and cast off etc this way, without
modifying the weapon itself.

Stockmakers use a much more complicated thingy called a "try stock",
which is a stock, with much universal joints and sliders etc etc to
get an exact fit.

Ive made some stocks that are exact fits for me this way.
Chuckle...few other people can shoot my custom stocks..unless they
have arms that drag the ground and have a long face and neck. Most of
the time..they cant see through the scope of a rifle, as its way far
away for them. On the other hand..when I shoot someone elses rifle..I
tend to get the rear bell of the scope cutting my eyebrow, or giving
me a Thump when I fire. I also have a problem with some stocks
forcing my thumb into my nose, as I "crawl the stock" getting a good
stock weld..and many are too short for me. The old Savages were
nortorious for this...the newer ones are far more ergonomic for big
guys like me. The old ones would hurt to shoot, even in small
calibers like 308 and '06.

Gunner


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"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
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Old November 14th 05, 02:22 PM
RoyJ
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Default measuring for a recoil pad

The old method was to hold the gun butt in the crook of the elbow, make
sure that your index fingerfirst joint was at the trigger. Lately the
trend has been to use fitup stocks with adjustable everything to see
what works for you.

Since the fitup that you like is completely up to you and will vary by
what kind of use (skeet, trap, bench, upland field, etc) and what kind
of clothes you are wearing(trap vest versus cold weather parka), use the
slip on in various sizes until you get what you like.

Installing your own permanent pad is no big deal. The replacement rubber
pad is shaped on a belt sander. Add spacer strips to get it where you want.

SteveB wrote:
How does one measure the length a gunstock should be on a long gun? I have
a Remington 1100 that I want to put a recoil pad on. When I put it up to my
shoulder, it looks like I am looking up the vent rib, which would mean to me
that the stock is too short. I am calling a gunsmith tomorrow to see how
much it costs for them to put a pad on it. I was just wondering, though, as
I am sure I can do a slip on pad for less. It is just I was wondering how
to measure for that.

Steve


 




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