Still not there yet due to excess alcohol interfering with analytics.

However, conceptually, I think it's getting there...... erm?

DNA

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:35:42 GMT, "Genome"
wrote:

Still not there yet due to excess alcohol interfering with analytics.

However, conceptually, I think it's getting there...... erm?

DNA


Depends ?:-)

What is the functional object of the circuit?

...Jim Thompson
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On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:35:42 GMT, "Genome"
wrote:

Still not there yet due to excess alcohol interfering with analytics.

However, conceptually, I think it's getting there...... erm?

DNA


Depends ?:-)

What is the functional object of the circuit?

...Jim Thompson

VVEA is meant to be multiplied by RECL and divided by VFF^2 to give IOUT.

RECL is the rectified line voltage and VFF is the average of the rectified
line voltage.

IOUT tells the power circuit what current to draw from the line.

DNA

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 18:15:41 GMT, "Genome"
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"Jim Thompson" wrote in
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On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:35:42 GMT, "Genome"
wrote:

Still not there yet due to excess alcohol interfering with analytics.

However, conceptually, I think it's getting there...... erm?

DNA


Depends ?:-)

What is the functional object of the circuit?

...Jim Thompson

VVEA is meant to be multiplied by RECL and divided by VFF^2 to give IOUT.

RECL is the rectified line voltage and VFF is the average of the rectified
line voltage.

IOUT tells the power circuit what current to draw from the line.

DNA


As you've shown your (non-functional ;-) circuit, IOUT can only be
positive.

Is that what you wanted?

And VVEA is always positive (in the multiplication)?

...Jim Thompson
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"Jim Thompson" wrote in
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On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 18:15:41 GMT, "Genome"
wrote:


"Jim Thompson" wrote in
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On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:35:42 GMT, "Genome"
wrote:

Still not there yet due to excess alcohol interfering with analytics.

However, conceptually, I think it's getting there...... erm?

DNA


Depends ?:-)

What is the functional object of the circuit?

...Jim Thompson

VVEA is meant to be multiplied by RECL and divided by VFF^2 to give IOUT.

RECL is the rectified line voltage and VFF is the average of the rectified
line voltage.

IOUT tells the power circuit what current to draw from the line.

DNA


As you've shown your (non-functional ;-) circuit, IOUT can only be
positive.

Is that what you wanted?

And VVEA is always positive (in the multiplication)?

...Jim Thompson
--

Yes.... IOUT only needs to be positive because it is one of the inputs to a
current error amplifier which gets feedback from a signal which only goes
negative.

It does appear to be a bit non-functional at the moment. Intuition seems to
be **** when you haven't got a clue, or the right sort of intuition.

Never mind..... I'll figger something out....... or get more stupid trying.

DNA

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:19:19 GMT, "Genome"
wrote:


"Jim Thompson" wrote in
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[snip]

As you've shown your (non-functional ;-) circuit, IOUT can only be
positive.

Is that what you wanted?

And VVEA is always positive (in the multiplication)?

...Jim Thompson
--

Yes.... IOUT only needs to be positive because it is one of the inputs to a
current error amplifier which gets feedback from a signal which only goes
negative.

It does appear to be a bit non-functional at the moment. Intuition seems to
be **** when you haven't got a clue, or the right sort of intuition.

Never mind..... I'll figger something out....... or get more stupid trying.

DNA


Intuition often fails you. Didn't you notice my blundering thru the
momentum/heat problem, before I put pencil to paper and finally got it
right ;-)

...Jim Thompson
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| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

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"Jim Thompson" wrote in
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On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:19:19 GMT, "Genome"
wrote:


"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message ...
[snip]

As you've shown your (non-functional ;-) circuit, IOUT can only be
positive.

Is that what you wanted?

And VVEA is always positive (in the multiplication)?

...Jim Thompson
--

Yes.... IOUT only needs to be positive because it is one of the inputs to
a
current error amplifier which gets feedback from a signal which only goes
negative.

It does appear to be a bit non-functional at the moment. Intuition seems
to
be **** when you haven't got a clue, or the right sort of intuition.

Never mind..... I'll figger something out....... or get more stupid
trying.

DNA


Intuition often fails you. Didn't you notice my blundering thru the
momentum/heat problem, before I put pencil to paper and finally got it
right ;-)

...Jim Thompson


Oh right, you are suggesting I should do some sums.

Intuition says the ones with the bases connected to the collectors act as
the loady stuff and linearise the ones that act as the differential stuff.

Then more current through the loady stuff makes them operate on a more bendy
bit of what they do and something similar but the other way around happens
to the differential things.

Crap.... that doesn't work..... unless it goes upside down from relative
amounts of how much things are fiddled with......

Anyway, apart from all the other bits and pieces. I suppose I should back
off and drink more Frosty Jacks.

Well, there you go.

Obviously I'm 90% there and dealing with the last 10%

Excellent!

I suppose I have to stop fiddling about....... :-(

DNA

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 19:40:02 GMT, "Genome"
wrote:


"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message ...
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:19:19 GMT, "Genome"
wrote:


"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message ...
[snip]

As you've shown your (non-functional ;-) circuit, IOUT can only be
positive.

Is that what you wanted?

And VVEA is always positive (in the multiplication)?

...Jim Thompson
--

Yes.... IOUT only needs to be positive because it is one of the inputs to
a
current error amplifier which gets feedback from a signal which only goes
negative.

It does appear to be a bit non-functional at the moment. Intuition seems
to
be **** when you haven't got a clue, or the right sort of intuition.

Never mind..... I'll figger something out....... or get more stupid
trying.

DNA


Intuition often fails you. Didn't you notice my blundering thru the
momentum/heat problem, before I put pencil to paper and finally got it
right ;-)

...Jim Thompson


Oh right, you are suggesting I should do some sums.

Intuition says the ones with the bases connected to the collectors act as
the loady stuff and linearise the ones that act as the differential stuff.

Then more current through the loady stuff makes them operate on a more bendy
bit of what they do and something similar but the other way around happens
to the differential things.

Crap.... that doesn't work..... unless it goes upside down from relative
amounts of how much things are fiddled with......

Anyway, apart from all the other bits and pieces. I suppose I should back
off and drink more Frosty Jacks.

Well, there you go.

Obviously I'm 90% there and dealing with the last 10%

Excellent!

I suppose I have to stop fiddling about....... :-(

DNA


Definitely drink something... and a little "fiddling" always loosens
up the mind ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave