I notice that not much mention is made of redwood for outdoor projects.
Even Norm doesn't seem to give it any consideration for his outdoor
creations, preferring cyprus or teak. Any reason for this? Is there
some limitation or restriction on its sale? Maybe it's out of fashion?
Can it be used for indoor pieces which will require a decent finish?

FoggyTown

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I notice that not much mention is made of redwood for outdoor projects.
Even Norm doesn't seem to give it any consideration for his outdoor
creations, preferring cyprus or teak. Any reason for this? Is there
some limitation or restriction on its sale? Maybe it's out of fashion?
Can it be used for indoor pieces which will require a decent finish?

FoggyTown


Redwood heart versus sapwood - might as well be different trees.

It's also, splintery, has extractives that make it durable, but also reject
"decent" finishes.

Given the abundance of choices, why pick something like that for indoors,
where durability isn't an issue?

I have run across this many times with wood workers from other states. I
live in California so redwood is readily available but expensive. Shipping
the redwood across the country adds considerable to the cost. IT would cost
more than ebony at the destination.
max

I notice that not much mention is made of redwood for outdoor projects.
Even Norm doesn't seem to give it any consideration for his outdoor
creations, preferring cyprus or teak. Any reason for this? Is there
some limitation or restriction on its sale? Maybe it's out of fashion?
Can it be used for indoor pieces which will require a decent finish?

FoggyTown

I notice that not much mention is made of redwood for outdoor projects.
Even Norm doesn't seem to give it any consideration for his outdoor
creations, preferring cyprus or teak. Any reason for this? Is there
some limitation or restriction on its sale? Maybe it's out of fashion?
Can it be used for indoor pieces which will require a decent finish?

I cut up and disposed of a large deck (large for NJ - 30' X 20') last
year... Only after I had cut all the boards down to a size that the trash
would accept did I realize that the non-fragrant reddish color indicated
that it was a redwood deck...
It was at least 20 years old and had some rot, but otherwise, extremely well
preserved. The nails were gone but the wood was basically fine for another
project.

Now, I couldn't afford to rebuild with redwood without winning the lottery
here in NJ.
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On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 23:11:02 GMT, max wrote:

I have run across this many times with wood workers from other states. I
live in California so redwood is readily available but expensive. Shipping
the redwood across the country adds considerable to the cost. IT would cost
more than ebony at the destination.

Redwood is readily available in Kansas and is always shipped in, since
we don't have trees.:-)
It is more expensive than some alternatives but is used quite often
here for decks and gazebos.

Mike O.

On 27 Feb 2005 14:50:06 -0800, "foggytown" wrote:

I notice that not much mention is made of redwood for outdoor projects.
Even Norm doesn't seem to give it any consideration for his outdoor
creations, preferring cyprus or teak. Any reason for this? Is there
some limitation or restriction on its sale? Maybe it's out of fashion?
Can it be used for indoor pieces which will require a decent finish?

FoggyTown

I made two of Norm's Adirondack chairs from redwood. These are still
holding up well after 10 years of use. I apply a clear oil every
other year as maintenance. Redwood can be obtained readily in
California, and at higher prices elsewhere.

Hail and tornado resistant, eh?

"Mike" wrote in message
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On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 23:11:02 GMT, max wrote:

Redwood is readily available in Kansas and is always shipped in, since
we don't have trees.:-)
It is more expensive than some alternatives but is used quite often
here for decks and gazebos.

Mike O.

"foggytown" wrote in message
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I notice that not much mention is made of redwood for outdoor projects.
Even Norm doesn't seem to give it any consideration for his outdoor
creations, preferring cyprus or teak. Any reason for this? Is there
some limitation or restriction on its sale? Maybe it's out of fashion?
Can it be used for indoor pieces which will require a decent finish?

FoggyTown


I was going to use it on my lounge chair. Here in the east is was very
expensive compared to alternates and selection of sizes was limited. I used
cypress instead.
--
Ed
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/

In article ,
max wrote:

I have run across this many times with wood workers from other states. I
live in California so redwood is readily available but expensive. Shipping
the redwood across the country adds considerable to the cost. IT would cost
more than ebony at the destination.

I worked a few summers in a wholesale lumberyard in Florida (not a
recommended job). The lumberyard shipped out a lot of 1X redwood boards,
so somebody was buying it.

--
Hank Gillette

foggytown wrote:

I notice that not much mention is made of redwood for outdoor projects.
Even Norm doesn'tpressureo give it any consideration for his outdoor
creations, preferring cyprus or teak. Any reason for this? Is there
some limitation or restriction on its sale? Maybe it's out of fashion?
Can it be used for indoor pieces which wrottenequire a decent finish?

FoggyTown

I like working with redwood, I've made a couple projects with it, the only
thing cheaper is pine or pressure treated pine, and for out doors pine will
warp and rot in a few years even in a place as dry as Boise, last week I
pulled some posts out of the ground at my in-laws 5"+ polls, and most of
them could be kicked over the bases were so rotten, and they had only been
in the ground 10 years maybe, yet the redwood floor for the shed that I
demolished right next to them was in great shape after 25+ years, (the
steal shed had rusted away thus the demo)

you can put a finish on redwood, but you have to seal coat it first, Linseed
oil works with paint I know, don't know about other finishes, just
remember, redwood is like pine in a lot of ways, it's soft, and sappy so it
gums up yours tools but other than that it's great, I like getting 2x4,
4x4, etc and re-sawing them down to 1x stock as far as price I get 12" 4x4
for $14-$15 here in Boise

Ed Pawlowski notes:
"was going to use it on my lounge chair. Here in the east is was very
expensive compared to alternates and selection of sizes was limited. I
used
cypress instead."

Cypress is also stronger than redwood, far less splintery. The only
redwood projects I've made that I've liked are a couple indoor
bookshelves. The redwood in my deck is slowly being replaced with PT
southern yellow pine as the redwood boards rot. Deck is about 16 years
old. The vertical stuff seems OK, but anything horizontal is in rough
shape. What isn't rotting is badly worn from weathering.

Not in California. Most of our residential fences are redwood. Much of the
decking out here are redwood too.

Redwood left outdoor turns dark with time but you could stop or at least
slow down the process by using a clear top coat with UV blocker. Redwood
adds a lot of warmth to an indoor room - I'm going to use it as wall/ceiling
panels, doors and some trim work. I have some redwood wrapped around 2'x4'
fluorescent fixtures. Untreated, indoor, three years old and didn't notice
any darkening.

I have a bunch or old black salvaged redwood and after going through the
planer some pieces came out red and just gorgeous!



"foggytown" wrote in message
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I notice that not much mention is made of redwood for outdoor projects.
Even Norm doesn't seem to give it any consideration for his outdoor
creations, preferring cyprus or teak. Any reason for this? Is there
some limitation or restriction on its sale? Maybe it's out of fashion?
Can it be used for indoor pieces which will require a decent finish?

FoggyTown