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Roy Underhill did it again!
I saw on Sunday's program where he had another finger stitched up.
I wonder if he has ever thought about getting into another line of work. |
lol, I remember watching an episode he had a while back with bloopers and
outtakes. He royally cut his finger and had it wrapped in gauze the rest of the show but there was blood soaking through and getting on stuff. It was pretty funny in a gruesome sort of way. -- Jeff P. A truck carrying copies of Roget's Thesaurus over-turned on the highway. The local newspaper reported that the onlookers were "stunned, overwhelmed, astonished, bewildered, and dumfounded." Check out my woodshop at: www.sawdustcentral.com "Bob" wrote in message news:jrqSd.38255$tl3.34778@attbi_s02... I saw on Sunday's program where he had another finger stitched up. I wonder if he has ever thought about getting into another line of work. |
Roy is a complete spaz. I saw an episode where he applied stain to the
inside of a cabinet by splashing the entire can of stain into the backside. As though he was putting out a fire. Then he rapidly tried to spread it out, but it didn't work very well. What a dope. |
On 21 Feb 2005 11:29:31 -0800, Geoff wrote:
Roy is a complete spaz. I saw an episode where he applied stain to the inside of a cabinet by splashing the entire can of stain into the backside. As though he was putting out a fire. Then he rapidly tried to spread it out, but it didn't work very well. What a dope. So, when is _your_ show on, Geoff? |
Um, I don't have a show, Dave.
"Better a witty fool than a foolish wit." |
On 21 Feb 2005 12:11:12 -0800, Geoff wrote:
Um, I don't have a show, Dave. Yeah, I guessed that. |
"Geoff" wrote in message oups.com... Roy is a complete spaz. I saw an episode where he applied stain to the inside of a cabinet by splashing the entire can of stain into the backside. As though he was putting out a fire. Then he rapidly tried to spread it out, but it didn't work very well. What a dope. I have to say that Roy seems to know quite a bit but he is not a great teacher. |
"Bob" wrote in news:jrqSd.38255$tl3.34778@attbi_s02:
I saw on Sunday's program where he had another finger stitched up. I wonder if he has ever thought about getting into another line of work. So everything you ever did in your career turned out perfectly? Hasn't been that way in mine. Some folks bleed visibly, others, not so much so. Wish I had St. Roy's talent. Patriarch |
Leon,
Have you ever seen him in person, doing a presentation? He seems pretty good on TV to me, but in person he's a lot better. As far as those commenting on his lack of coordination or knowledge, it would be interesting to sit them down with some of the tools Roy Underhill uses and ask them what they're made to do. Don't ask them to use the tools, just ask them to identify them. These guys should have a flag: you recall they old "Don't Read On Me" snake flag of the American Revolution? Maybe they could use a cobra ready to strike, with something along the line of "Dipsticks United for Less Knowledge of The Old Ways". |
"Bob" wrote in message news:jrqSd.38255$tl3.34778@attbi_s02... I saw on Sunday's program where he had another finger stitched up. I wonder if he has ever thought about getting into another line of work. He sure does rush about, doesn't he? Perhaps decaf?? Of course, when your hands are the greater part of your tools, they get dinged up a lot. Don't ever work all day milling hard (sharp?) maple and then volunteer to do the dishes. Death by a thousand burning cuts.... |
On 21 Feb 2005 12:59:56 -0800, "Charlie Self"
wrote: As far as those commenting on his lack of coordination or knowledge, it would be interesting to sit them down with some of the tools Roy Underhill uses and ask them what they're made to do. Don't ask them to use the tools, just ask them to identify them. Asking them to use them would be even more fun. These guys should have a flag: you recall they old "Don't Read On Me" snake flag of the American Revolution? Maybe they could use a cobra ready to strike, with something along the line of "Dipsticks United for Less Knowledge of The Old Ways". DULK TOW? - - LRod Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999 http://www.woodbutcher.net |
Charlie Self wrote:
Leon, Have you ever seen him in person, doing a presentation? He seems pretty good on TV to me, but in person he's a lot better. In Japan, a person like that (such as a traditional sword maker) are designated a "National Treasure". -- Gerald Ross Cochran, GA Know what I hate? I hate rhetorical questions! ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:15:27 GMT, "Bob" wrote:
I saw on Sunday's program where he had another finger stitched up. I wonder if he has ever thought about getting into another line of work. No project is ever finished until blood has been spilled! If Roy were a Normite he would be SawStop's target market. Tim Douglass http://www.DouglassClan.com |
Geoff wrote:
Roy is a complete spaz. I saw an episode where he applied stain to the inside of a cabinet by splashing the entire can of stain into the backside. As though he was putting out a fire. Then he rapidly tried to spread it out, but it didn't work very well. What a dope. Gives you hope, don't it? --RC |
"Charlie Self" wrote in message oups.com... Leon, Have you ever seen him in person, doing a presentation? He seems pretty good on TV to me, but in person he's a lot better. As far as those commenting on his lack of coordination or knowledge, it would be interesting to sit them down with some of the tools Roy Underhill uses and ask them what they're made to do. Don't ask them to use the tools, just ask them to identify them. Agreed. Although I suspect that the old world tools that he uses may not have the "Government Mandated" safety devices that would prevent a lot of his injuries. :~) He seems to butt in on his guests too much for my liking. These guys should have a flag: you recall they old "Don't Read On Me" snake flag of the American Revolution? Maybe they could use a cobra ready to strike, with something along the line of "Dipsticks United for Less Knowledge of The Old Ways". ;~) |
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:15:27 GMT, the inscrutable "Bob"
spake: I saw on Sunday's program where he had another finger stitched up. I wonder if he has ever thought about getting into another line of work. You've never hit yourself with a hammer, cut yourself with a knife or tool, scraped yourself on a table or tool, or gotten a splinter? Oh, you've done all that? Then what's the beef? Leave our Good Lord Roy ALONE! (Do I hear an "AMEN!"?) -- ************************************************** ********* "Boy, I feel safer now that Martha Stewart is behind bars! O.J. is walking around free, Osama Bin Laden too, but they take the one woman in America willing to cook and clean and work in the yard and haul her ass to jail." --Tim Allen ************************************************** ********* |
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"Gerald Ross" wrote in message
... Charlie Self wrote: Leon, Have you ever seen him in person, doing a presentation? He seems pretty good on TV to me, but in person he's a lot better. In Japan, a person like that (such as a traditional sword maker) are designated a "National Treasure". Haven't watched him much, but I gotta give him credit for his enthusiasm. That's got to count for something in holding the interest of some viewers that otherwise would have a borderline interest in hand tools. He's got about 10x the personality of Norm. (on television, at least; can't speak from any personal meetings). As far as cuts, scrapes and dings, I'm just a part-time hobbyist, and I get my share of cuts. Doesn't seem to me to be an indication of Underhill being a klutz. |
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 17:53:27 -0500, Gerald Ross
wrote: In Japan, a person like that (such as a traditional sword maker) are designated a "National Treasure". It's a good system, and they're very fussy about who receives this accolade. You certainly don't receive it just for appearing on TV. I believe a Living National Treasure might have seen some of my work, in a field similar to their own. So that's _another_ country I'm now too embarassed to ever visit. |
Larry Jaques wrote:
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:56:36 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:15:27 GMT, the inscrutable "Bob" spake: I saw on Sunday's program where he had another finger stitched up. I wonder if he has ever thought about getting into another line of work. You've never hit yourself with a hammer, cut yourself with a knife or tool, scraped yourself on a table or tool, or gotten a splinter? Oh, you've done all that? Then what's the beef? Leave our Good Lord Roy ALONE! (Do I hear an "AMEN!"?) I can not imagine working in a wood shop and trying to put on a TV show at the same time. Given Roy's level of animation I am surprised he isn't hurt more often. It is a good thing he doesn't use power tools... TWS |
"TWS" wrote in message ... I can not imagine working in a wood shop and trying to put on a TV show at the same time. Given Roy's level of animation I am surprised he isn't hurt more often. It is a good thing he doesn't use power tools... The only thing that may top that is working in front of the public. Like Roy, I worked at Colonial Williamsburg in the Crafts Dept. One constant concern was to make sure the public didn't get hurt... No small feat. I had visitors try to pick up items that they just watched me take out of the forge, red hot, and hammer into shape. I had a woman sit down on a chopping block while I was splitting a walnut log to make short boards for a storage box. I watched people reach into a wooden tub of corn meal, ground in a quern, take some cornmeal and eat it. Mind you, there were so many bugs in the tub that if you watched it the corn meal moved! I also had kids take hand-filed wood screws off my workbench when I looked away. Another time someone stole a hot-cut hardy that we left in the anvil when we went inside for a break. Visitors never ceased to amaze me... I'd been on site with Roy while the carpenters were pitsawing lumber and other times when they were hewing beams. It was interesting to see how willing people were to put themselves at risk... they'd walk right up to someone using an axe or stand so that chips could hit them. It was also interesting to see their reactions when they realized it was Roy--if they recognized him. When Norm was at Sturbridge Village the public was kept significantly further away from the intepreters who were hand hewing beams than what I saw at CW... I guess they were more risk averse. John |
I really enjoy Roy and look forward to watching him every week. I think one
of the first things we all look for at the beginning of the show is how many blue finger nails and cuts he has before we look to see what project he is doing. "Bruce Barnett" wrote in message ... "Leon" writes: I have to say that Roy seems to know quite a bit but he is not a great teacher. Is he still doing the entire show with no "jumps" in the process? -- Sending unsolicited commercial e-mail to this account incurs a fee of $500 per message, and acknowledges the legality of this contract. |
I like Roy. I wish I had just half his talent. His knowledge of =
tools is a treasure and should be admired. I know he looks like a spaz = but I would bet anyone putting out the volume of work he does with the = tools he uses would be "in stitches" also. Puff "Bob" wrote in message = news:jrqSd.38255$tl3.34778@attbi_s02... I saw on Sunday's program where he had another finger stitched up. I wonder if he has ever thought about getting into another line of = work. =20 =20 |
"Bob" wrote in message
news:jrqSd.38255$tl3.34778@attbi_s02... I saw on Sunday's program where he had another finger stitched up. I wonder if he has ever thought about getting into another line of work. I always assumed he was just trying to cram in as much as he could in 24 minutes, and had to get a little sloppy now and then. He's no longer on the air in my area, and I miss him. |
I met Roy in Williamsburg while attending a conference last January. He had
no bandages at that time. He's really a nice person. He let us examine a collection of antique tools and handplanes he has acquired. I was flabbergasted, as some one in the crowd of 250 could have pilfered something. I think he demonstrated a basic trust in people that he possesses. I did get his autograph on an unused Band-Aid. It broke up the group (of about six woodworkers) when I approached him about the autograph. "Buck Turgidson" wrote in message ... "Bob" wrote in message news:jrqSd.38255$tl3.34778@attbi_s02... I saw on Sunday's program where he had another finger stitched up. I wonder if he has ever thought about getting into another line of work. I always assumed he was just trying to cram in as much as he could in 24 minutes, and had to get a little sloppy now and then. He's no longer on the air in my area, and I miss him. |
"Lowell Holmes" wrote in message
I met Roy in Williamsburg while attending a conference last January. He had no bandages at that time. He's really a nice person. He let us examine a collection of antique tools and handplanes he has acquired. I was flabbergasted, as some one in the crowd of 250 could have pilfered something. I think he demonstrated a basic trust in people that he possesses. I did get his autograph on an unused Band-Aid. It broke up the group (of about six woodworkers) when I approached him about the autograph. I've met him also ... anyone making a value judgment about him being a "dope" and a "spaz" is seeing his own reflection in the TV screen Roy Underhill is one of the nicest woodworkers you will ever have the chance to meet ... any woodworker worthy of the name should hope for the opportunity. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 11/06/04 |
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:15:27 GMT, "Bob" wrote:
I saw on Sunday's program where he had another finger stitched up. I wonder if he has ever thought about getting into another line of work. I wonder why he doesn't just start using power tools?? lol |
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 00:35:25 GMT, "Leon"
wrote: "Charlie Self" wrote in message roups.com... Leon, Have you ever seen him in person, doing a presentation? He seems pretty good on TV to me, but in person he's a lot better. As far as those commenting on his lack of coordination or knowledge, it would be interesting to sit them down with some of the tools Roy Underhill uses and ask them what they're made to do. Don't ask them to use the tools, just ask them to identify them. Agreed. Although I suspect that the old world tools that he uses may not have the "Government Mandated" safety devices that would prevent a lot of his injuries. :~) He seems to butt in on his guests too much for my liking. I always figure he is trying to move the show along. They don't edit it a lot and he needs to get through the whole thing in a half hour. Besides, he definitely suffers from ADHD. Tim Douglass http://www.DouglassClan.com |
Jeff P. wrote: lol, I remember watching an episode he had a while back with bloopers and outtakes. He royally cut his finger and had it wrapped in gauze the rest of the show but there was blood soaking through and getting on stuff. It was pretty funny in a gruesome sort of way. I helped Mr Underhill set up for an appearance at the local Woodcraft store. (He's a Washingtonian and his parents were still living in DC at the time, maybe still do.) Anyhow, after taking a look at the shaving horse I said, "The blood cleaned up real well didn't it." He replied "Yeah, I hose it down after use." The worst injury he has had, which resulted in a very ugly thumb for several weeks, happened when he dropped a heavy piece of equipment (I disrememeber what) while moving it. -- FF |
Leon wrote: "Geoff" wrote in message oups.com... Roy is a complete spaz. I saw an episode where he applied stain to the inside of a cabinet by splashing the entire can of stain into the backside. As though he was putting out a fire. Then he rapidly tried to spread it out, but it didn't work very well. What a dope. I have to say that Roy seems to know quite a bit but he is not a great teacher. Odd, I think he's a great teacher. -- FF |
When I try to go medieval like Roy I always hurt myself.
I sliced a 1/16" thick tip off of a fretting hand finger this weekend after I was done handcutting some dovetails. Freakin' razor blade marking tool was sharp! I got called to dinner and as I was walking out of the shop I saw a little sliver of wood hanging on to a pin. I had already dry fitted the drawer side and it was a good fit but that little sliver was going to bother me until I got back in the shop so I grabbed the Exacto knife and sliced it right off, fingertip too. Dumbass. Watch TV and you won't get any cuts or bruises and you'll never have to sharpen anything. Well you can watch Roy or even Norm and sharpen your brain a little. Robert Smith Jacksonville, Fl. "If there isn't blood on the bench there's an unhappy wench." |
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 08:20:55 -0500, the inscrutable "Buck Turgidson"
spake: "Bob" wrote in message news:jrqSd.38255$tl3.34778@attbi_s02... I saw on Sunday's program where he had another finger stitched up. I wonder if he has ever thought about getting into another line of work. I always assumed he was just trying to cram in as much as he could in 24 minutes, and had to get a little sloppy now and then. He's no longer on the air in my area, and I miss him. Same here. I miss his shows a LOT. I'd like to see how long it would take Norm to do a complete project. Y'know ONE live, uncut camera session. I'd like to know how much _he_ bleeds, too. -- ************************************************** ********* "Boy, I feel safer now that Martha Stewart is behind bars! O.J. is walking around free, Osama Bin Laden too, but they take the one woman in America willing to cook and clean and work in the yard and haul her ass to jail." --Tim Allen ************************************************** ********* |
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 20:23:38 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote: I'd like to see how long it would take Norm to do a complete project. Y'know ONE live, uncut camera session. Why? Is that the way you work? In any event, although Roy does a complete 24 minute show in one take, he doesn't build a project in that time. He shows the steps in the project, but he may have as many as five or more of the same part in various stages of preparation. I'd like to know how much _he_bleeds, too. I fail to see what the point of this is. - - LRod Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999 http://www.woodbutcher.net |
"LRod" wrote in message ... On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 20:23:38 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: I'd like to see how long it would take Norm to do a complete project. Y'know ONE live, uncut camera session. Why? Is that the way you work? In any event, although Roy does a complete 24 minute show in one take, he doesn't build a project in that time. He shows the steps in the project, but he may have as many as five or more of the same part in various stages of preparation. I'd like to know how much _he_bleeds, too. I fail to see what the point of this is. You see it. Most all of us see it. Envy. Any gain is ill-gotten, any praise undeserved, unless it devolves on me or "my" guy. Same old story. The difference, as I see it, is that the hand is part of the tool for Roy. The reason they began building machines to work wood was to diminish the importance of skill in the hand that fed it. Along the way they reduced the number of operations which required handling, reducing the opportunity for the knuckle-scratching, finger stubbing (stabbing) piece pinching types of injury. Of course, there's a new, and more horrible set possible now! I've done a bit of lesson-planning, and initially it's often tough to distill what you want into the time alloted. By rev two you've got a more refined piece that leaves a quarter of the time unused, some visual aids, etc. If you continue to polish, you either have to include more material, or learn to tap-dance. As I see it, Roy begins with a sketchy lesson plan, assumes no knowledge on the part of his viewers, makes poor use of his visual aids, and ends up crammed for time because he never made a run-through - or should I say "prototype?" Norm is maybe too smooth, as the Norm thread also running shows. He may assume too much knowledge on the viewer. Does anyone really _not_ know why you plow a centered groove with two passes on the saw? Apparently that presumes too much from the viewer, as does a prototype, rather than staged interim work. |
"Rick Cook" wrote in message ink.net... Geoff wrote: Roy is a complete spaz. I saw an episode where he applied stain to the inside of a cabinet by splashing the entire can of stain into the backside. As though he was putting out a fire. Then he rapidly tried to spread it out, but it didn't work very well. What a dope. Gives you hope, don't it? --RC Hey Guys, I figure we play with sharp things and they do bite occasionally. That doesn't mean we're stupid, just that sharp things have to be respected. But then, we knew that right? Later, Beej |
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"LDR" wrote in message
k.net... In article , says... "Lowell Holmes" wrote in message I met Roy in Williamsburg while attending a conference last January. He had no bandages at that time. He's really a nice person. He let us examine a collection of antique tools and handplanes he has acquired. I was flabbergasted, as some one in the crowd of 250 could have pilfered something. I think he demonstrated a basic trust in people that he possesses. I did get his autograph on an unused Band-Aid. It broke up the group (of about six woodworkers) when I approached him about the autograph. I've met him also ... anyone making a value judgment about him being a "dope" and a "spaz" is seeing his own reflection in the TV screen Roy Underhill is one of the nicest woodworkers you will ever have the chance to meet ... any woodworker worthy of the name should hope for the opportunity. I agree with the above and would add I kinda like the sight of Roy Underhill's sore thumbs: it validates what I am seeing, that he is in fact doing what he shows. I have no doubt that Norm Abram, another hero of mine, is absolutely capable, but I do have the feeling he is more an ormament to his work, which I suspect is pureed for him by unseen grunt woodworkers. I was actually reading a couple of Roy's books this weekend. A relevant quote: "I like to work fast" He also explained that he turned from craftsmanship to showmanship when he worked at crafts fairs. Simply selling spoons wasn't enough so he turned spoons with one hand, chopped a bowl with the other and played the harmonica. Certainly he tries to entertain and inform at the same time. Norm doesn't seem to have the same sort of motivation. -j |
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