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Rain keeps damaging woodstocks.
My small collection of MDF boards and hardwood don't have
storage because our shed is 80-percent full. Today, a bad storm passes thru our neighborhood and destroys many of my MDF boards, which were temporarily covered with a silver tarp. The woods were relocated far away from the protection of the house when a couple of black widows were found on the boards. I have a large roll of thin, clear plastic wrap that I will use to wrap the ones I salvage. What is common way to protect our wood stocks from rain? Thanks |
"Tim Zimmerman" wrote in message m... My small collection of MDF boards and hardwood don't have storage because our shed is 80-percent full. What is common way to protect our wood stocks from rain? Use the other 20% of the shed. |
"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message ... "Tim Zimmerman" wrote in message m... My small collection of MDF boards and hardwood don't have storage because our shed is 80-percent full. What is common way to protect our wood stocks from rain? Use the other 20% of the shed. Hard to believe some of the questions here |
Tim Zimmerman wrote:
snip What is common way to protect our wood stocks from rain? Start with some concrete blocks that are in contact with the ground. Span the concrete blocks at 4 ft intervals with sistered 2x4s. (You can cut pressure treated 2x4x96 lumber cut in half and nailed together) Lay boards on sistered 2x4s. Stick each layer as required. Cover with silver tarp and weight down with more concrete blocks making sure that you allow air to flow thru the lumber. Get a beer and praise your work. HTH Lew |
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"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message Use the other 20% of the shed. Hard to believe some of the questions here I can't agree more. Due to spiders, wife freaks if she finds wood in the shed or the shed is 81-percent full. Also, the wood rack in question must look practical and holdup to a downpour. |
Tim Zimmerman Feb 19, 1:18 am show options
Newsgroups: rec.woodworking From: "Tim Zimmerman" - Find messages by this author Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 09:18:31 GMT Local: Sat, Feb 19 2005 1:18 am "TaskMule" wrote in message news:H6idnSBa- "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message Use the other 20% of the shed. Hard to believe some of the questions here I can't agree more. Due to spiders, wife freaks if she finds wood in the shed or the shed is 81-percent full. Also, the wood rack in question must look practical and holdup to a downpour. " Look practical? I use 90% of a shed to hold my drying wood, though the fragile stuff (MDF, particleboard, hardwood plywood, fully dried hardwood--mostly) is in the shop. My wife uses the other 10%. Sometimes we get mice in the stacks. Sometimes we get blacksnakes chasing the mice. Other times, there are spiders all over the place. My wife hates snakes--fears is more accurate--so stays out of the shed if there's a snake or six around. Otherwise, there's not much problem. Spiders don't hurt anything and they tend to keep the insect population closer to reasonable. Squash the ones you think are aggressive. For a practical looking shed, I suggest getting one of the 20' x 20' metal car ports. You can get 2' added to each leg for about $200 more, and it's easy to screw on metal or wood siding to keep blowing winds out. You need to be inventive at the ends, but those can be readily enclosed, too. |
On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 04:50:22 GMT, "Tim Zimmerman"
wrote: My small collection of MDF boards and hardwood don't have storage because our shed is 80-percent full. Today, a bad storm passes thru our neighborhood and destroys many of my MDF boards, which were temporarily covered with a silver tarp. The woods were relocated far away from the protection of the house when a couple of black widows were found on the boards. I have a large roll of thin, clear plastic wrap that I will use to wrap the ones I salvage. What is common way to protect our wood stocks from rain? Thanks I store wood anywhere I'm sure it will stay dry. The garage, basement, etc. The problem with storing outdoors is the animals using it as a home. Tar paper, fiberglass, metal roofing are helpful. We have black widows here too, including red wasps, hornets, skunks, possums, groundhogs, copperheads, and lots of birds all looking for shelter. Follow this rule: look before placing your hand. Black widows' nests are easily recognized by the messy webs they build--beautiful spider though. |
All forms of tarps and plastic will go bad and cause trouble.
Stack and sticker wood as described. Put some stickers on top and cover with roofing metal. Either weight the metal or run stickers across the top and tie them down to lower stickers with heavy twine. This gives ari circulation and doesn't fall apart. I don't think MDF can stay outside in any case. Wilson "Tim Zimmerman" wrote in message m... My small collection of MDF boards and hardwood don't have storage because our shed is 80-percent full. Today, a bad storm passes thru our neighborhood and destroys many of my MDF boards, which were temporarily covered with a silver tarp. The woods were relocated far away from the protection of the house when a couple of black widows were found on the boards. I have a large roll of thin, clear plastic wrap that I will use to wrap the ones I salvage. What is common way to protect our wood stocks from rain? Thanks |
On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 04:50:22 GMT, "Tim Zimmerman"
wrote: What is common way to protect our wood stocks from rain? Leave them in the timberyard until you need them. There's no way to store MDF that involves "rain" or "tarpaulins" |
"TaskMule" wrote in message ... Hard to believe some of the questions here Brother of the guy with the out door butcher block . ;~) |
"Tim Zimmerman" wrote in message news:HvDRd.1570 I can't agree more. Due to spiders, wife freaks if she finds wood in the shed or the shed is 81-percent full. Also, the wood rack in question must look practical and holdup to a downpour. Live within your means or get another shed. The answer seems simple. |
Tim Zimmerman wrote:
My small collection of MDF boards and hardwood don't have storage because our shed is 80-percent full. Today, a bad storm passes thru our neighborhood and destroys many of my MDF boards, which were temporarily covered with a silver tarp. The woods were relocated far away from the protection of the house when a couple of black widows were found on the boards. I have a large roll of thin, clear plastic wrap that I will use to wrap the ones I salvage. What is common way to protect our wood stocks from rain? Don't store fake wood outdoors. Black Widows don't eat much wood, what's the problem? If you're worried about them, bug bomb the place a couple of times, a week apart, before you start unpiling the wood. Outside is outside, that's where the critters live. Frankly, I'd be more worried about Mojaves and western Diamondbacks out where you are. I've killed a ton of spiders, and got one dry rattler bite. I like snakes not spiders but the snakebite scared me more. Dave in Fairfax -- Dave Leader reply-to doesn't work use: daveldr at att dot net American Association of Woodturners http://www.woodturner.org Capital Area Woodturners http://www.capwoodturners.org/ PATINA http://www.Patinatools.org/ |
"Tim Zimmerman" wrote in news:HvDRd.1570$OU1.67
@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com: I can't agree more. Due to spiders, wife freaks if she finds wood in the shed or the shed is 81-percent full. Also, the wood rack in question must look practical and holdup to a downpour. Purchase only for immediate needs. That's more expensive for the project, but should keep the wife more appeased - which is less expensive, in the long run. By the way, indoor (garage) storage of wood is also prime spider habitat. Patriarch |
"Tim Zimmerman" wrote in message m... What is common way to protect our wood stocks from rain? A roof. |
On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 15:41:06 GMT, Dave in Fairfax
wrote: Tim Zimmerman wrote: My small collection of MDF boards and hardwood don't have storage because our shed is 80-percent full. Today, a bad storm passes thru our neighborhood and destroys many of my MDF boards, which were temporarily covered with a silver tarp. The woods were relocated far away from the protection of the house when a couple of black widows were found on the boards. I have a large roll of thin, clear plastic wrap that I will use to wrap the ones I salvage. What is common way to protect our wood stocks from rain? Don't store fake wood outdoors. Black Widows don't eat much wood, what's the problem? If you're worried about them, bug bomb the place a couple of times, a week apart, before you start unpiling the wood. Outside is outside, that's where the critters live. Frankly, I'd be more worried about Mojaves and western Diamondbacks out where you are. I've killed a ton of spiders, and got one dry rattler bite. I like snakes not spiders but the snakebite scared me more. Dave in Fairfax Buy spyder killer,use it often, mix at twice the recomended strengh, damn shame the feds took away our DDT. spray your whole yard too they are sneaky little *******s. |
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Zimmerman wrote: What is common way to protect our wood stocks from rain? I keep mine under cover where they don't get rained on. It's a crazy idea, but it just might work! -- "The thing about saying the wrong words is that A, I don't notice it, and B, sometimes orange water gibbon bucket and plastic." -- Mr. Burrows |
"Tim Zimmerman" writes:
"TaskMule" wrote in message news:H6idnSBa- "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message Use the other 20% of the shed. Hard to believe some of the questions here I can't agree more. Due to spiders, wife freaks if she finds wood in So your very best course is to educate your wife to like or at least tolerate the interesting and useful creatures that keep the number of flies down. -- Dr. Juergen Hannappel http://lisa2.physik.uni-bonn.de/~hannappe Phone: +49 228 73 2447 FAX ... 7869 Physikalisches Institut der Uni Bonn Nussallee 12, D-53115 Bonn, Germany CERN: Phone: +412276 76461 Fax: ..77930 Bat. 892-R-A13 CH-1211 Geneve 23 |
Dave Balderstone wrote:
I keep mine under cover where they don't get rained on. Please, describe this "plastic"? It's a crazy idea, but it just might work! Wellllll, I dunno. Have you thought of sending this little tiplet to 'Murican Wooddorker? I mean, being Canadianna and all, will they accept it as is or is there a conversion we can use this side of the border? UA100 |
Tim Zimmerman wrote:
My small collection of MDF boards and hardwood don't have storage because our shed is 80-percent full. Today, a bad storm passes thru our neighborhood and destroys many of my MDF boards, which were temporarily covered with a silver tarp. The woods were relocated far away from the protection of the house when a couple of black widows were found on the boards. I have a large roll of thin, clear plastic wrap that I will use to wrap the ones I salvage. What is common way to protect our wood stocks from rain? OK, to be sure I understand, you have more wood than you have space to store under cover, and if you don't get it under cover then it will be ruined by rain. Obvious solution--use some of the wood to build a wood shed. You will likely have to buy some roofing but that doesn't cost all that much for a shed, especially compared to the value of the wood. Thanks -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 04:50:22 GMT, "Tim Zimmerman"
wrote: My small collection of MDF boards and hardwood don't have storage because our shed is 80-percent full. "You can't have everything... ....where would you keep it?" Steven Wright c. 1983 tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email) http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage) |
In article , Unisaw A100
wrote: I keep mine under cover where they don't get rained on. Please, describe this "plastic"? Plastic? I said nuttin' about (aboot, Keeter) plastic. Wellllll, I dunno. Have you thought of sending this little tiplet to 'Murican Wooddorker? I mean, being Canadianna and all, will they accept it as is or is there a conversion we can use this side of the border? I think the US still has a tariff on Canadian woodworking tips. -- "The thing about saying the wrong words is that A, I don't notice it, and B, sometimes orange water gibbon bucket and plastic." -- Mr. Burrows |
Dave Balderstone wrote:
Plastic? I said nuttin' about (aboot, Keeter) plastic. Peter Jennings says "a boat". I think the US still has a tariff on Canadian woodworking tips. sigh... It's that whole Naptha thing, right? Here all these years I've been using the stuff around the shop and... huh? NAFTA? oh! sorry... UA100 |
In article , Unisaw A100
wrote: Peter Jennings says "a boat". Yeah, and Ms Morrisette just took out US citizenship (after dissing you folks seriously last year...). Y'all can keep her. And Peter. -- "I'm a man, but I can change... If I have to... I guess." -- Red Green |
"Dave Balderstone" wrote in message tone.ca... Yeah, and Ms Morrisette just took out US citizenship (after dissing you folks seriously last year...). Y'all can keep her. And Peter. That's what defines a US citizen, someone with all the rights and none of the responsibilities normally associated with same.... |
Juergen Hannappel writes:
"Tim Zimmerman" writes: "TaskMule" wrote in message news:H6idnSBa- "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message Use the other 20% of the shed. Hard to believe some of the questions here I can't agree more. Due to spiders, wife freaks if she finds wood in So your very best course is to educate your wife to like or at least tolerate the interesting and useful creatures that keep the number of flies down. It's difficult to try to tell someone that a black widow spider won't kill them, especially when it might. No, the bite of a black widow isn't instantly fatal, but it it can be fatal to those with impaired immune systems, the young, the elderly and the infirm. Note that the original poster posted from Bezerkely Ca. where plenty of black widow spiders are resident. scott |
Sounds like you need a bigger shed.
Mark "Tim Zimmerman" wrote in message m... My small collection of MDF boards and hardwood don't have storage because our shed is 80-percent full. Today, a bad storm passes thru our neighborhood and destroys many of my MDF boards, which were temporarily covered with a silver tarp. The woods were relocated far away from the protection of the house when a couple of black widows were found on the boards. I have a large roll of thin, clear plastic wrap that I will use to wrap the ones I salvage. What is common way to protect our wood stocks from rain? Thanks |
In article , Mark
wrote: Sounds like you need a bigger shed. Ooh! Or... a second shed. Then we could call him "Two Sheds". ;-) -- "The thing about saying the wrong words is that A, I don't notice it, and B, sometimes orange water gibbon bucket and plastic." -- Mr. Burrows |
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