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McMansions...Not!
These are the kinds of dumps that I used to build casework for. In fact I did work for two of the architects mentioned in this piece. It was fun work but there were major egos involved on the customer and design team level. Another fella that did this sorta work said that his motto was, "Creating The Unnecessary For The Ungrateful". http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/10598822.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted on Sun, Jan. 09, 2005 Modern take on epic houses The classic Main Line mansion is back. Technology and taste have grandeur on the rise again. By Matthew P. Blanchard Inquirer Staff Writer They say the era of great Main Line mansions is gone forever, with once-great estates chopped up for stucco and vinyl McMansions. But rising right now in Gladwyne is a French palais with big ambitions, a 30,000-square-foot home of cut limestone and patterned brickwork, with carved oak interiors. Elsewhere, ancient-looking Georgians and English country manors carry shocking numbers on their date stones: not 1904, but 2004. These are real mansions, sturdy and opulent, without a trace of the "Mc" about them. Common wisdom suggests that such Gilded Age craftsmanship is no longer possible, but architects in the field say new technologies, new wealth, and a shift in architectural tastes have thrown history an unexpected twist: The classic Main Line mansion is making a comeback. "People see the old Main Line estates and say, 'Oh, what a shame you can't do that anymore,' " says Fred Bissinger, the architect behind the Gladwyne chateau. "Well, not only can you do it, but there are plenty of people willing to pay for it... . Slate roofs, cut limestone trim - I'm doing things that, when I was in college, I thought would never happen again." The phenomenon is national, with a widespread interest in traditional design spawning reproduction bungalows in California and "new old" plantation homes in the South. Transplant that aesthetic to the Main Line, and you get what looks like the second coming of the robber barons: A stout three-story brick Georgian rises near the Philadelphia Golf Club, outwardly identical to homes of 18th-century Britain, with enough plasterwork and Corinthian pilasters to please Prince Charles, who is known for his disdain of modern architecture. A French farm manor in Radnor looks like a vision of Normandy from 100 years ago, with its sandstone tower and red clay roof. In fact, it is younger than the local Starbucks. And when construction is complete on Bissinger's Gladwyne chateau in 2006, it will be larger than 20 average-size Philadelphia rowhouses. Visitors to the seven-bedroom, 16-bathroom house on Merion Square Road will first cross a moat, then a cobblestone courtyard, to enter a domed entry hall, built to accommodate gala charity events with seating for 250. All the modern megahouse features are he a bowling alley; indoor and outdoor swimming pools; an in-home barbershop, and space for an estate manager, a nanny, three or four housekeepers and a cook. What's truly different are the details. British craftsmen are carving ornate oak columns for the grand escalier, as well as sculptural lions, shields, dragons and scrollwork. Modern intrusions such as thermostats and light switches are artfully hidden to preserve the 18th-century look. Bissinger would not divulge the cost, but top-notch construction can be $350 to $500 a square foot, which would put this house above the $10 million mark. The owner is the son of a Delaware County machinist who rose through corporate law to own several companies. Although the house is sure to make a splash, he asked to remain anonymous - as did other mansion dwellers, who offered access to their homes only on the condition that they not be identified. Less shy was Thomas Bentley, president of Bentley Homes, a West Chester-based developer of high-end homes. Finished in 2001, Bentley's stone and slate manse rises like a fortress on a hillside south of Wayne, conjuring visions of fox hunts, or perhaps the Princeton quad. "It just felt right. I grew up in Philadelphia, and we wanted that Chestnut Hill look," Bentley said. "This trend has been building for 15 years, but it has now reached epic proportions." Such homes represent the highest end of an architectural movement called Traditional Building. Adherents believe that classic architectural modes such as Tudor, Gothic and Georgian are more than just nostalgic styles to be applied to buildings like icing on a cake. They seek to revive traditional detail, materials and proportioning as a total design strategy, from roofline to guest bath. From the 1940s to the mid-'80s, traditional architecture was stifled from two directions: The predominantly modernist architectural establishment scorned traditional work as backward and antidemocratic, while rising labor costs made it prohibitively expensive. Gradually, taste has shifted back, and the economy has followed. Where traditionalists once lamented that the old craftsmen were dying out, new magazines such as Period Homes now boast a database of 18,000 suppliers for such items as hand-hammered iron balusters, pre-aged English ceramic tile, and marble work carved with the aid of computers. "For the first time in 100 years, we have architecture as good as the great Beaux Arts homes of the turn of the century," said architect Steve Mouzon, a Florida architect and leader of the traditionalist New Urban Guild. Making these homes look old is often a goal, and age can be fudged: Ironwork is dipped in acid to add patina; wood floors are beaten with chains; and if the marble fireplace looks too new, it can be weathered with a special drill bit to mimic the scrape of an iron poker over 100 years. Russell Versaci, author of the recent book Creating a New Old House, adds age to stonework with a mixture of buttermilk, mold spores, beer and cow manure. His clients are Hollywood stars, CEOs and other social leaders. "They're not at all interested in a high-tech house. Technology is hidden, and the house feels like an heirloom. It gives them a pedigree," Versaci said. "It's exactly the same phenomenon as the early 20th-century industrialists." The Main Line is fertile soil for such work, well-watered with income, sophistication and ego. The area supports at least three respected traditional architects: Bissinger, Peter Zimmerman and John Milner. From the first twinklings of interest in the mid-'80s, they now see one to seven truly baronial homes being built on the Main Line each year. Among Zimmerman's recent work is an 11,000-square-foot English manor house off Youngsford Road in Gladwyne, custom-designed down to the screws, where a secret door in the library opens up to a dim stairwell to the wine cellar. Milner is a stickler for historic accuracy, and recently built an entirely new home to look like an 18th-century farm complex, with wings, barns and outbuildings added over the course of century. "We're very fortunate to have clients who want that kind of quality," he said. Bissinger has a dozen new Main Line mansions to his credit. He will never catch up in numbers with the builders of McMansions (5,000- to 6,000-square-foot homes named for their imposing sizes and assembly-line designs), but believes he is rebuilding some of the Main Line's lost grandeur. At times, this rebuilding is quite literal: In 2000, Bissinger was designing a 12,000-square-foot Georgian in Wayne when he discovered that he was working on the site of Weltvreten, the 1905 Schmidt's beer family estate. Built in a striking German medieval style of timber and stucco, it was demolished in the 1960s. The new house, called Honeystone, incorporates stonework from Weltvreten found in the soil. Its formal main house of Canadian blue granite rambles left to a vast kitchen wing and right to the library wing, pool and pool house. Inside, light filters though Venetian stained glass onto the mahogany railing of the swooping main stair. Missing here are the tapestries and tiger-skin rugs that made Weltvreten an exotic castle; modern decor is comparatively spare. Also missing at this estate home is the estate itself. Mansions of the 1900s might command 100 or 700 acres, often with flocks of fluffy white sheep to create that English country air. Honeystone and every other new Main Line mansion must live in the modern world. Tucked into a suburban neighborhood north of Wayne, this imposing home commands exactly 2.7 acres of land, and sheep are entirely absent. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contact staff writer Matt Blanchard at 610-313-8120 or . -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- © 2005 Philadelphia Inquirer and wire service sources. All Rights Reserved. http://www.philly.com tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email) http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage) |
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Tom Watson wrote: Another fella that did this sorta work said that his motto was, "Creating The Unnecessary For The Ungrateful". Yet another fella, a friend of mine, refers to this style a "Monuments To Themselves." r |
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On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 12:02:37 -0500, Robatoy
wrote: In article , Tom Watson wrote: Another fella that did this sorta work said that his motto was, "Creating The Unnecessary For The Ungrateful". Yet another fella, a friend of mine, refers to this style a "Monuments To Themselves." r AKA "An Edifice Complex". tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email) http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage) |
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"Tom Watson" wrote in message ... These are the kinds of dumps that I used to build casework for. In fact I did work for two of the architects mentioned in this piece. It was fun work but there were major egos involved on the customer and design team level. Another fella that did this sorta work said that his motto was, "Creating The Unnecessary For The Ungrateful". All of those bucks and not one mention of a workshop. Secret staircases to a wine cellar? Nonsense. Much better to have the staircase go to the workshop, and perhaps install beer taps. -- Roger Shoaf About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then they come up with this striped stuff. |
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Hi Tom,
These are the types of projects that one often sees on newer TOH or some HGTV remodels. Usually a young couple with too much $$$ or a recently wed May-Dec thing (with big $$$). I think the "Dream House" show on HGTV (lately) is over the top (i.e "Brandon's Dream House"). The sad part is that there is usually no connection between the people and the house. I feel differently if they are restoring a once great looking place in a(n) historic area or something like that. Still, they are paying salaries and keeping the economy going, so there is something to be said for that (I guess). Lou In article , Tom Watson wrote: These are the kinds of dumps that I used to build casework for. In fact I did work for two of the architects mentioned in this piece. It was fun work but there were major egos involved on the customer and design team level. Another fella that did this sorta work said that his motto was, "Creating The Unnecessary For The Ungrateful". http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/10598822.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Posted on Sun, Jan. 09, 2005 Modern take on epic houses The classic Main Line mansion is back. Technology and taste have grandeur on the rise again. By Matthew P. Blanchard Inquirer Staff Writer They say the era of great Main Line mansions is gone forever, with once-great estates chopped up for stucco and vinyl McMansions. But rising right now in Gladwyne is a French palais with big ambitions, a 30,000-square-foot home of cut limestone and patterned brickwork, with carved oak interiors. Elsewhere, ancient-looking Georgians and English country manors carry shocking numbers on their date stones: not 1904, but 2004. These are real mansions, sturdy and opulent, without a trace of the "Mc" about them. Common wisdom suggests that such Gilded Age craftsmanship is no longer possible, but architects in the field say new technologies, new wealth, and a shift in architectural tastes have thrown history an unexpected twist: The classic Main Line mansion is making a comeback. "People see the old Main Line estates and say, 'Oh, what a shame you can't do that anymore,' " says Fred Bissinger, the architect behind the Gladwyne chateau. "Well, not only can you do it, but there are plenty of people willing to pay for it... . Slate roofs, cut limestone trim - I'm doing things that, when I was in college, I thought would never happen again." The phenomenon is national, with a widespread interest in traditional design spawning reproduction bungalows in California and "new old" plantation homes in the South. Transplant that aesthetic to the Main Line, and you get what looks like the second coming of the robber barons: A stout three-story brick Georgian rises near the Philadelphia Golf Club, outwardly identical to homes of 18th-century Britain, with enough plasterwork and Corinthian pilasters to please Prince Charles, who is known for his disdain of modern architecture. A French farm manor in Radnor looks like a vision of Normandy from 100 years ago, with its sandstone tower and red clay roof. In fact, it is younger than the local Starbucks. And when construction is complete on Bissinger's Gladwyne chateau in 2006, it will be larger than 20 average-size Philadelphia rowhouses. Visitors to the seven-bedroom, 16-bathroom house on Merion Square Road will first cross a moat, then a cobblestone courtyard, to enter a domed entry hall, built to accommodate gala charity events with seating for 250. All the modern megahouse features are he a bowling alley; indoor and outdoor swimming pools; an in-home barbershop, and space for an estate manager, a nanny, three or four housekeepers and a cook. What's truly different are the details. British craftsmen are carving ornate oak columns for the grand escalier, as well as sculptural lions, shields, dragons and scrollwork. Modern intrusions such as thermostats and light switches are artfully hidden to preserve the 18th-century look. Bissinger would not divulge the cost, but top-notch construction can be $350 to $500 a square foot, which would put this house above the $10 million mark. The owner is the son of a Delaware County machinist who rose through corporate law to own several companies. Although the house is sure to make a splash, he asked to remain anonymous - as did other mansion dwellers, who offered access to their homes only on the condition that they not be identified. Less shy was Thomas Bentley, president of Bentley Homes, a West Chester-based developer of high-end homes. Finished in 2001, Bentley's stone and slate manse rises like a fortress on a hillside south of Wayne, conjuring visions of fox hunts, or perhaps the Princeton quad. "It just felt right. I grew up in Philadelphia, and we wanted that Chestnut Hill look," Bentley said. "This trend has been building for 15 years, but it has now reached epic proportions." Such homes represent the highest end of an architectural movement called Traditional Building. Adherents believe that classic architectural modes such as Tudor, Gothic and Georgian are more than just nostalgic styles to be applied to buildings like icing on a cake. They seek to revive traditional detail, materials and proportioning as a total design strategy, from roofline to guest bath. From the 1940s to the mid-'80s, traditional architecture was stifled from two directions: The predominantly modernist architectural establishment scorned traditional work as backward and antidemocratic, while rising labor costs made it prohibitively expensive. Gradually, taste has shifted back, and the economy has followed. Where traditionalists once lamented that the old craftsmen were dying out, new magazines such as Period Homes now boast a database of 18,000 suppliers for such items as hand-hammered iron balusters, pre-aged English ceramic tile, and marble work carved with the aid of computers. "For the first time in 100 years, we have architecture as good as the great Beaux Arts homes of the turn of the century," said architect Steve Mouzon, a Florida architect and leader of the traditionalist New Urban Guild. Making these homes look old is often a goal, and age can be fudged: Ironwork is dipped in acid to add patina; wood floors are beaten with chains; and if the marble fireplace looks too new, it can be weathered with a special drill bit to mimic the scrape of an iron poker over 100 years. Russell Versaci, author of the recent book Creating a New Old House, adds age to stonework with a mixture of buttermilk, mold spores, beer and cow manure. His clients are Hollywood stars, CEOs and other social leaders. "They're not at all interested in a high-tech house. Technology is hidden, and the house feels like an heirloom. It gives them a pedigree," Versaci said. "It's exactly the same phenomenon as the early 20th-century industrialists." The Main Line is fertile soil for such work, well-watered with income, sophistication and ego. The area supports at least three respected traditional architects: Bissinger, Peter Zimmerman and John Milner. From the first twinklings of interest in the mid-'80s, they now see one to seven truly baronial homes being built on the Main Line each year. Among Zimmerman's recent work is an 11,000-square-foot English manor house off Youngsford Road in Gladwyne, custom-designed down to the screws, where a secret door in the library opens up to a dim stairwell to the wine cellar. Milner is a stickler for historic accuracy, and recently built an entirely new home to look like an 18th-century farm complex, with wings, barns and outbuildings added over the course of century. "We're very fortunate to have clients who want that kind of quality," he said. Bissinger has a dozen new Main Line mansions to his credit. He will never catch up in numbers with the builders of McMansions (5,000- to 6,000-square-foot homes named for their imposing sizes and assembly-line designs), but believes he is rebuilding some of the Main Line's lost grandeur. At times, this rebuilding is quite literal: In 2000, Bissinger was designing a 12,000-square-foot Georgian in Wayne when he discovered that he was working on the site of Weltvreten, the 1905 Schmidt's beer family estate. Built in a striking German medieval style of timber and stucco, it was demolished in the 1960s. The new house, called Honeystone, incorporates stonework from Weltvreten found in the soil. Its formal main house of Canadian blue granite rambles left to a vast kitchen wing and right to the library wing, pool and pool house. Inside, light filters though Venetian stained glass onto the mahogany railing of the swooping main stair. Missing here are the tapestries and tiger-skin rugs that made Weltvreten an exotic castle; modern decor is comparatively spare. Also missing at this estate home is the estate itself. Mansions of the 1900s might command 100 or 700 acres, often with flocks of fluffy white sheep to create that English country air. Honeystone and every other new Main Line mansion must live in the modern world. Tucked into a suburban neighborhood north of Wayne, this imposing home commands exactly 2.7 acres of land, and sheep are entirely absent. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contact staff writer Matt Blanchard at 610-313-8120 or . -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- © 2005 Philadelphia Inquirer and wire service sources. All Rights Reserved. http://www.philly.com tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email) http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage) |
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loutent writes:
These are the types of projects that one often sees on newer TOH or some HGTV remodels. Usually a young couple with too much $$$ or a recently wed May-Dec thing (with big $$$). I think the "Dream House" show on HGTV (lately) is over the top (i.e "Brandon's Dream House"). The sad part is that there is usually no connection between the people and the house. I feel differently if they are restoring a once great looking place in a(n) historic area or something like that. Still, they are paying salaries and keeping the economy going, so there is something to be said for that (I guess). Check out a magazine, Old House Journal, for those who appreciate older homes. Most of them cost mroe than I can afford, but it is not over-the-top unnecessarily. Charlie Self "One of the common denominators I have found is that expectations rise above that which is expected." George W. Bush |
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