How practical is a dust collection system in a basement? I have a table
saw, bandsaw, 13 in. planer, router/table, and am about to get an 8 in.
jointer. I don't have a shop, I have a garage with stuff in it that needs
to be moved around for any serious work. If I had an actual dust collector
with this equipment in a basement, what could I reasonably expect? If 25 %
of the basement became a shop, would it need to be sealed off to keep the
other 75% clean? Anyone have experience with this, and if so - how well
does it work?



Dave

On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:04:47 -0500, "Cox West" wrote:

How practical is a dust collection system in a basement? I have a table
saw, bandsaw, 13 in. planer, router/table, and am about to get an 8 in.
jointer. I don't have a shop, I have a garage with stuff in it that needs
to be moved around for any serious work. If I had an actual dust collector
with this equipment in a basement, what could I reasonably expect? If 25 %
of the basement became a shop, would it need to be sealed off to keep the
other 75% clean? Anyone have experience with this, and if so - how well
does it work?



Dave

The volume of air that the DC system pulls needs to be replaced from
somewhere. If you don't set up a return path between the basement and
the garage then the garage air will be a slight vacuum and will pull
air from outside. Conversely the basement will be pressurized and the
air (with a lot of dust smaller than the DC's filter) will go
somewhere else (like under the basement door and into your house).
Finally, DCs are very loud and will resound through the floor of your
house unless you take measures to deaden the sound.
TWS

Cox West wrote:

How practical is a dust collection system in a basement? I
have a table saw, bandsaw, 13 in. planer, router/table, and am
about to get an 8 in. jointer. I don't have a shop, I have a
garage with stuff in it that needs to be moved around for any
serious work. If I had an actual dust collector with this
equipment in a basement, what could I reasonably expect? If
25 % of the basement became a shop, would it need to be sealed
off to keep the other 75% clean? Anyone have experience with
this, and if so - how well does it work?

It's always a good idea to contain the mess as much as possible.
A dust-proof partition with a door (and door mat) would help to
contain the mess.

Dust collection to all of the tools will also help. Everything
trapped by the DC is that much less mess that can appear elsewhere.

Why not try it out in the garage first? That way you'll gain some
experience and develop some gut-level feel for how well it'll
work with your tools and your DC...

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/solar.html

I have 2 good experiences with it. My first basement shop, even with dust
collection, allowed a LOT of dust to collect throughout the basement. My
second basement shop was walled off from the rest of the basement and that,
coupled with a good DC system, keeps the basement pretty spotless. I don't
have any air returns in my shop to my HVAC system so no worries about dust
working into the house that way.
And unless your DC system is venting outside of your shop, then you're not
creating any differential pressure between shop and basement. Most DC
systems blow back through a final filter and back into your shop.
As far as noise, they're loud, but I find that the drop ceiling I put into
my shop (to support large enclosed flourescent fixtures) really helps muffle
the sound a lot. You can tell it's running but it's just a low frequency
noise that doesn't bother the wife too much - my planer running with the DC
system on is another story though!

Gary in KC


"Cox West" wrote in message
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How practical is a dust collection system in a basement? I have a table
saw, bandsaw, 13 in. planer, router/table, and am about to get an 8 in.
jointer. I don't have a shop, I have a garage with stuff in it that needs
to be moved around for any serious work. If I had an actual dust
collector
with this equipment in a basement, what could I reasonably expect? If 25
%
of the basement became a shop, would it need to be sealed off to keep the
other 75% clean? Anyone have experience with this, and if so - how well
does it work?



Dave

"Cox West" wrote in message ...
How practical is a dust collection system in a basement?

Necessity.


I If I had an actual dust collector
with this equipment in a basement, what could I reasonably expect?

You will get most, but not all the dust. Smaller micron bags would help.


If 25 % of the basement became a shop, would it need to be sealed off to
keep the other 75% clean?

It would help. No matter how much care you take, there will be dust flying
from some tool and it will find itself in other areas.


Anyone have experience with this, and if so - how well does it work?

My experience is in a garage. The DC makes a huge difference, but is not
perfect.
Ed

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

It would help. No matter how much care you take, there will be dust flying
from some tool and it will find itself in other areas.

Especially when you forget to turn the DC on.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
(Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)

My wood shop is in the basement and is walled off from the rest of the
basement and has no return air to the furnace. I have used a
standalone DC system and am now in the process of putting in a full
blown DC system complete with cyclone.

I am installing the cyclone up on the street level in my garage and
piping the dust through it and then back to the cartridge filters back
in the basement. I am running all 6" PVC pipe.

Finally, that mech. engr. degree is paying off. I can do all the
pressure drop and flow calculations to insure the system will work.
Mom and Dad would be proud.

Go to www.clearvuecyclones.com and follow the link to Bill Pentz's
site for the best information on dust collection that there is on the
web.











On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:04:47 -0500, "Cox West" wrote:

How practical is a dust collection system in a basement? I have a table
saw, bandsaw, 13 in. planer, router/table, and am about to get an 8 in.
jointer. I don't have a shop, I have a garage with stuff in it that needs
to be moved around for any serious work. If I had an actual dust collector
with this equipment in a basement, what could I reasonably expect? If 25 %
of the basement became a shop, would it need to be sealed off to keep the
other 75% clean? Anyone have experience with this, and if so - how well
does it work?



Dave

Cox West wrote:
How practical is a dust collection system in a basement? I have a table
saw, bandsaw, 13 in. planer, router/table, and am about to get an 8 in.
jointer. I don't have a shop, I have a garage with stuff in it that needs
to be moved around for any serious work. If I had an actual dust collector
with this equipment in a basement, what could I reasonably expect? If 25 %
of the basement became a shop, would it need to be sealed off to keep the
other 75% clean? Anyone have experience with this, and if so - how well
does it work?



Dave


My dust collector is in the basement with my shop...things I think are a
must!
1. Dual layer of sheetrock on the ceiling, with "hat channel"
2. Insulate all walls and ceiling best you can.
3. No cold air returns to the hvac.
4. Dust closet for collector to reduce the noise.
5. Exterior medal doors with magnetized and threshold seals to access
the house.
6.Entry from the garage to shop, extra wide.

Just a quick list...good luck

On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:23:57 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:

My experience is in a garage. The DC makes a huge difference, but is not
perfect.

I find the big plus for a DC is how some tools actually work, not
cleanliness.

Planers, jointers and router tables, to name a few, do a better job
with less effort, when the chips are actively removed from the cutter
area. The same goes for power sanders connected to a vacuum when
compared to the simple dust bag / cup.

Barry

Cox West wrote:

How practical is a dust collection system in a basement? I have a table
saw, bandsaw, 13 in. planer, router/table, and am about to get an 8 in.
jointer. I don't have a shop, I have a garage with stuff in it that needs
to be moved around for any serious work. If I had an actual dust collector
with this equipment in a basement, what could I reasonably expect? If 25 %
of the basement became a shop, would it need to be sealed off to keep the
other 75% clean? Anyone have experience with this, and if so - how well
does it work?



Dave




I've got a 25' x 25' shop in the basement, I have a dust collector and a
ceiling mounted air cleaner and no cold air returns to the furnace.
The guy who lived here before never heated the room so he insulated the
ceiling to keep the floors in the rooms above from getting to cold.
With that insulation the wife says she hardly hears the table saw and
planer running never mind the dust collector.

When I put a heat outlet in the duct work for the shop I also installed
a filter and I really don't see much dust in the rest of the basement
let alone the upstairs.

Rick

Cox West wrote:
How practical is a dust collection system in a basement? I have a
table
saw, bandsaw, 13 in. planer, router/table, and am about to get an 8
in.
jointer. I don't have a shop, I have a garage with stuff in it that
needs
to be moved around for any serious work. If I had an actual dust
collector
with this equipment in a basement, what could I reasonably expect?
If 25 %
of the basement became a shop, would it need to be sealed off to keep
the
other 75% clean? Anyone have experience with this, and if so - how
well
does it work?

I have everything you have but the bandsaw, and I have a miter saw in
additon to the tools listed. I have the Jet 1100CFM dust collector in
my basement, which I reserved about 1/2 of the basement for the shop.
I built a wall to separate the two halves to control the dust. Work
great.