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tillius
 
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Default WARNING - Don't waste your money on 150,000+_WOODWORKING_PLANS/PROJECTS... from master-tech2004

I purchased this product from mastet-tech2004

Here's a link to the exact same offering:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...4593 100&rd=1


It's a small number of links to freely available websites that offer
free or pay woodworking signs. You can easily get all the sites listed
+ more by DAGS

Here's a bunch of links to free woodworking sites on the web, if you're
really looking for some:

http://absolutelyfreeplans.com/INDOO...r_projects.htm
http://www.woodworkersworkshop.com/r...ex.php?cat=102
http://www.allwoodwork.com/freeplans...oorplans.htm#a
http://www.jeffgreefwoodworking.com/pnc/furniture.html
http://doityourself.com/wood/
http://plans.the3house.com/all_plan_cat.php

http://www.popularwoodworking.com/features/projects.asp

http://www.popularwoodworking.com/features/projects.asp

http://www.jeffgreefwoodworking.com/pnc/boxes.html

http://www.jeffgreefwoodworking.com/pnc/shopproj.html

http://www.jeffgreefwoodworking.com/pnc/hmimprove.html

http://www.jeffgreefwoodworking.com/pnc/hmimprove.html

http://www.arbortech.com.au/projectp...le/coffee.html

http://www.uniqueprojects.com/projec...k/winerack.htm

http://www.hoistman.com/HoistMan/PLANS.html Papa Don's - which
doesn't even offer plans anymore

http://www.freeww.com/beds.html

http://www.rd.com/americanwoodworker...ategoryId=7004

http://absolutelyfreeplans.com/Boat%...boat_plans.htm

http://www.bconnex.net/%7Ezirgo/picnic.html

http://popularmechanics.com/home_imp.../7/super_shed/

http://www.public.iastate.edu/%7Emwp...b/frame_p.html

http://www.shop-for-wood-working-too...rbor-bench.htm

http://plans.rcmodell.hu/

http://www.lowes.com/lkn?action=pg&p...n.html&rn=none


These I added myself, so you're already getting more than they rip you
off for:

The Tool Plans:

http://www.5bears.com/links.htm#Foundry
http://christophermerrill.net/ww/shop/index.html
http://www.machinetoolcamp.com/
http://home.pacbell.net/jdismuk/routertable.html
http://mimf.com/articles/lathe/
http://www.the-wildings.com/shop/
http://www.crankorgan.com/index.html
http://www.lathes.co.uk/
http://www.woodshopdemos.com/menu2.htm
http://users.pandora.be/woodturning/photo.htm
http://popularmechanics.com/home_imp.../2/pin_router/
http://christophermerrill.net/ww/pla...l_Stand_1.html
http://www.rockslide.org/wood.html
http://canadianhomeworkshop.com/articles.shtml
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/shop_cart.html
http://metalwebnews.com/poorman/wood.html
http://www.woodworkingtips.com/etips/etip022500wb.html
http://www.mgsweb.com/woodworking/bu...nel_cutter.htm
http://www.mimf.com/archives/thickness_sander2.htm
http://www.build-stuff.com/
http://absolutelyfreeplans.com/WORKS...p_projects.htm
http://www.woodnet.net/tips/index/
http://www.woodcentral.com/
http://www.patwarner.com/morticer.html
http://www.ronan.net/~woodwork/
http://www.woodisourart.com/workshop/toolsandtips.htm
http://community.webshots.com/album/95634527HOZOiZ
http://www.bburke.com/wood/jigsandtools.html
http://www.wood-worker.com/plans/router/index.htm
http://www.popularwoodworking.com/fe...ea.asp?id=1109
http://www.newwoodworker.com/tipsmortenon.html
http://www.jeffgreefwoodworking.com/...out/index.html
http://www.bobsplans.com/FreeJigPlans/FreeJigPlans.htm



Cool Clocks:
http://www.woodenclocks.co.uk/the_clocks.html



There are loads more free plans on the web for your searching. Use
google, but don't waste your money on this ripoff!

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Thanks (MUCH!) for the great compilation, it helps me a lot and I saved the list.
I have seen that on eBay and knew it was suspicious, no cdrom costs $6.95 to
ship unless it is $12.xx for express.

But what about that "software" they describe? Is it realistically viable?

Alex


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the 'software' consists of a catalog of woodgrain images with the type
of wood it is. It looks to be images downloaded from some website I've
seen before that's free and has a larger variety of woods.Here's a link
to tropical wood identification:
http://www.panda.org/about_wwf/what_...st_of_wood.cfm

I'll see if I can find the url to that wood reference and post it as
well or perhaps someone else knows it.

The 'conversion' software is very feature POOR and there are plenty of
online conversion software that has more features (and is free as
well).

The cd they sent only had links to about the 1st half of the links I
listed above (most of which I already had). The bottom section weren't
included and I did leave off two or three links to different projects
on the same site that was on their CDROM, since it was redundant anyway.

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There's a number of sites that offer wood profiles (woodgrain images),
here's a few
http://www.woodmosaic.com/
http://www.hardwoodinfo.com/species_...ay_species.asp
http://www.cocoboloinc.com/

As for the free plans, you might want to try
http://www.FreeWoodworkingPlan.com
Woodwork Safely,
Jim Barry
http://www.woodchuckcanuck.com

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On 3 Jan 2005 02:43:18 -0800, "tillius"
wrote:

bump


It's best not to use "bump" It is a registered trademark of a soft
drink company in France and they will pursue all non-authorized use of
the term with expensive legal action.

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On 3 Jan 2005 02:43:18 -0800, "tillius"
vaguely proposed a theory
.......and in reply I say!:

I have to ask why you post bump to your own post.

bump


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to bump it back close to the top of the group listings (that way people
who missed it the first time get a second chance to view it and not get
ripped off by this sham-firm.

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On 3 Jan 2005 13:38:31 -0800, tillius wrote:
to bump it back close to the top of the group listings (that way people
who missed it the first time get a second chance to view it and not get
ripped off by this sham-firm.


You have a limited understanding of how Usenet works.

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On 4 Jan 2005 16:11:01 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote:

On 3 Jan 2005 13:38:31 -0800, tillius wrote:
to bump it back close to the top of the group listings (that way people
who missed it the first time get a second chance to view it and not get
ripped off by this sham-firm.


You have a limited understanding of how Usenet works.



Apparently he thinks it works like a web-based message board.

AAMOF, maybe he is reading this group on such a board, I know of at
least one board that is nothing more than a feed from this group.


Mike Patterson
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On 3 Jan 2005 13:38:31 -0800, "tillius"
vaguely proposed a theory
.......and in reply I say!:

remove ns from my header address to reply via email

OK. Thanks

It did not work for me (newsreader Agent), and neither would it for
Outlook Express, in many cases.

Even if it did work, I wouldn't do it too often. I appreciate your
reasons, but people don't take well to being manipulated more than
once.

to bump it back close to the top of the group listings (that way people
who missed it the first time get a second chance to view it and not get
ripped off by this sham-firm.


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Well, actually not. Most usenet servers only store posts for a limited
period of time. Also, a large number of usenet readers (people, not
nntp clients) sort posts by date and browse usenet newsgroups in that
manner.

Having been in the IT industry for 23 years and originally using usenet
via a unix nntp client way back to just after the ARPAnet days, I'd say
I have a fair understanding of how usenet works.

But, given everyone's apparent concern, perhaps the best way to keep
this information available would be to put it on a webpage somewhere
and adding a useful signature to every post I make, pointing to that
website.

I mean, I don't want to waste precious bytes of newsgroup storage on
the usenet servers out there, so I wont waste my sig line with a
meaningless quote or quip droned on and repeated endlessly....

Tillman

Warning: Don't waste your money on 150,000+ woodworking plans on eBay.
Get more for free - links to a huge number of woodworking plans:
http://home.comcast.net/~tillman_ste...kinglinks.html

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On 4 Jan 2005 16:52:13 -0800, "tillius" wrote:

Well, actually not. Most usenet servers only store posts for a limited
period of time. Also, a large number of usenet readers (people, not
nntp clients) sort posts by date and browse usenet newsgroups in that
manner.

Having been in the IT industry for 23 years and originally using usenet
via a unix nntp client way back to just after the ARPAnet days, I'd say
I have a fair understanding of how usenet works.

But, given everyone's apparent concern, perhaps the best way to keep
this information available would be to put it on a webpage somewhere
and adding a useful signature to every post I make, pointing to that
website.

I mean, I don't want to waste precious bytes of newsgroup storage on
the usenet servers out there, so I wont waste my sig line with a
meaningless quote or quip droned on and repeated endlessly....

Tillman

Warning: Don't waste your money on 150,000+ woodworking plans on eBay.
Get more for free - links to a huge number of woodworking plans:
http://home.comcast.net/~tillman_ste...kinglinks.html


Seems like a reasonable use of .sig space.

This input comes from someone who has just added a meaningless quip just
recently.



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