I've got *a bunch* of Popular Science magazines that I'd be willing to
trade in part or in whole for "some" Fine Woodworking" magazines.

Anyone interested?

JP

Sun, Dec 12, 2004, 10:23pm (Jay=A0Pique) sidles up,
opens his raincoat, while looking for the cops, and whispers:
I've got *a bunch* of Popular Science magazines that I'd be willing to
trade in part or in whole for "some" Fine Woodworking" magazines.
Anyone interested?

Dunno, maybe. I'm down to probably maybe a dozen FWW tho. But,
I'm willing to part with all but one (an article I want). What years
are they? If they're new, nope, I'm nicely covered by Popular
Mechinics, which also has woodworking projects. But, if they're the
older issues, with the interesting stuff, possibly.



JOAT
We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.
- unknown

(J T) wrote:

Sun, Dec 12, 2004, 10:23pm (Jay*Pique) sidles up,
opens his raincoat, while looking for the cops, and whispers:
I've got *a bunch* of Popular Science magazines that I'd be willing to
trade in part or in whole for "some" Fine Woodworking" magazines.
Anyone interested?

Dunno, maybe. I'm down to probably maybe a dozen FWW tho. But,
I'm willing to part with all but one (an article I want). What years
are they? If they're new, nope, I'm nicely covered by Popular
Mechinics, which also has woodworking projects. But, if they're the
older issues, with the interesting stuff, possibly.

They're all pretty new. I'm just a babe in the woods at 34 y.o.

I think I've got every issue since 1990. It's a great magazine - and
I'm pretty sure I'll read it forever, but I just don't refer back to
it like I thought I might. Plus, technology changes so rapidly -
relative to woodworking technique and design - that they just don't
have long term value (to me) like FWW might.

How's that for a sales pitch...

JP

Sun, Dec 12, 2004, 11:18pm (Jay=A0Pique) asks:
snip How's that for a sales pitch...

Not good enough. Thanks, but I'll pass, too new for my taste.



JOAT
We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails.
- unknown

JOAT answers:

Not good enough. Thanks, but I'll pass, too new for my taste.

Same here. I used to write for PS, back in the '70s and '80s, but by the
mid-1980s, they'd moved all the way to "What's New", sliding away from my
interests. Al Lees (Home & Shop Editor) retired, and, IMO, the magazine became
a slightly more interesting Omni (which may be why Omni folded). I don't think
I've looked at an issue since about '88. Check the covers and see more on outer
or inner space than I care to know.

Charlie Self
"Man is the only animal that blushes. Or needs to." Mark Twain

"Charlie Self" wrote in message

Was it Popular Science that wrote one of the initial 'mainstream' articles
(Cover story if I do recall) that introduced hang gliding to the
population.. what was this '71 - '72? It was one of those "Popular
Science/Mechanics" publications.

I remember my dad getting all excited, we ended up ordering a set of plans
from Dick Eipper (sp) for 10 bucks, a few trips to the hardware store, one
road trip to Tube Sales in Los Angeles, and before you know it, we were
flying like the birds.... Well, not quite - the rule was "Never fly higher
than you are willing to fall" - LOL

I still have an original copy of Dan Poynters "Hang Gliding - The Basic
Handbook of Skysurfing", complete with field notes...

Any current or ex hang gliders amongst us?

Rick

Charlie Self wrote:

JOAT answers:

Not good enough. Thanks, but I'll pass, too new for my taste.

Same here. I used to write for PS, back in the '70s and '80s, but by the
mid-1980s, they'd moved all the way to "What's New", sliding away from my
interests. Al Lees (Home & Shop Editor) retired, and, IMO, the magazine

I subscribed for a good chunk of the '90s, it must have been. It used to be
my favorite magazine, but then I started reading PM, and I discovered that
PopSci is just whatever was in PM three months ago, with different
drawings.

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pray4surf asks:


"Charlie Self" wrote in message

Was it Popular Science that wrote one of the initial 'mainstream' articles
(Cover story if I do recall) that introduced hang gliding to the
population.. what was this '71 - '72? It was one of those "Popular
Science/Mechanics" publications.

It might have been, but the concept sounds more like something Tony Hogg and
Wade Hoyt at Science & Mechanics would have loved the most.


I remember my dad getting all excited, we ended up ordering a set of plans
from Dick Eipper (sp) for 10 bucks, a few trips to the hardware store, one
road trip to Tube Sales in Los Angeles, and before you know it, we were
flying like the birds.... Well, not quite - the rule was "Never fly higher
than you are willing to fall" - LOL

I still have an original copy of Dan Poynters "Hang Gliding - The Basic
Handbook of Skysurfing", complete with field notes...

Any current or ex hang gliders amongst us?

Gah. I used to go up to the Ellenville, NY area to watch the sail planes...not
quite as pretty as a hawk soaring, but not bad. In the process, I found the
spot where the local hang gliders took off. No thanks. I ain't jumping off no
damned spot that is above the tops of the trees!

Charlie Self
"Man is the only animal that blushes. Or needs to." Mark Twain

On 13 Dec 2004 10:06:20 GMT, otforme (Charlie Self)
wrote:

JOAT answers:

Not good enough. Thanks, but I'll pass, too new for my taste.

Same here. I used to write for PS, back in the '70s and '80s, but by the
mid-1980s, they'd moved all the way to "What's New", sliding away from my
interests. Al Lees (Home & Shop Editor) retired, and, IMO, the magazine became
a slightly more interesting Omni (which may be why Omni folded). I don't think
I've looked at an issue since about '88. Check the covers and see more on outer
or inner space than I care to know.

Charlie Self
"Man is the only animal that blushes. Or needs to." Mark Twain

For me the most interesting ones are the issues before 1950. I've got
a bunch of them from during and right after WWII and the stuff in just
fascinating. _Real_ shop projects and tips you can seriously use
besides all the neat stuff we're supposed to have today and somehow
don't.

--RC

Projects expand to fill the clamps available -- plus 20 percent

On 14 Dec 2004 09:32:20 GMT, otforme (Charlie Self)
wrote:

pray4surf asks:


"Charlie Self" wrote in message

Was it Popular Science that wrote one of the initial 'mainstream' articles
(Cover story if I do recall) that introduced hang gliding to the
population.. what was this '71 - '72? It was one of those "Popular
Science/Mechanics" publications.

It might have been, but the concept sounds more like something Tony Hogg and
Wade Hoyt at Science & Mechanics would have loved the most.

It definitely sounds more like a "Science and Mechanics" proposition.
By that time PS was less reduced to pretty wimpy DIY projects and
pieces for weekend auto mechanics. "Science and Mechanics" was more
like PS had been 30-40 years ago with more 'serious' (which is not to
say practical) projects.

A lot of the Science and Mechanics projects were gathered up and
published as independent magazines. I've got a couple of them and I
wish I had a lot more.

--RC


Projects expand to fill the clamps available -- plus 20 percent

rcook5 responds:

For me the most interesting ones are the issues before 1950. I've got
a bunch of them from during and right after WWII and the stuff in just
fascinating. _Real_ shop projects and tips you can seriously use
besides all the neat stuff we're supposed to have today and somehow
don't.

I learned some reading skills with those pre-1950 PSs. I had an older cousin
who got the magazine, and whenever we visited, I'd end up on the floor of his
room reading PS magazines back before WWII. A lot of fun there. His dad was a
machinist, while mine was an auto mechanic, so the genes were good.

Gus's Garage was the best part for me, for a long, long time.

Charlie Self
"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire." Sir Winston
Churchill

I recall a bunch of those nut cases jumping off the
top of Grandfather Mountain in western North Carolina.

It looks really neat until somebody forgets about the
basic tenets of flight...

Charlie Self wrote:


Gah. I used to go up to the Ellenville, NY area to watch the sail planes...not
quite as pretty as a hawk soaring, but not bad. In the process, I found the
spot where the local hang gliders took off. No thanks. I ain't jumping off no
damned spot that is above the tops of the trees!

Charlie Self
"Man is the only animal that blushes. Or needs to." Mark Twain

otforme (Charlie Self) wrote:

rcook5 responds:

For me the most interesting ones are the issues before 1950. I've got
a bunch of them from during and right after WWII and the stuff in just
fascinating. _Real_ shop projects and tips you can seriously use
besides all the neat stuff we're supposed to have today and somehow
don't.

I learned some reading skills with those pre-1950 PSs. I had an older cousin
who got the magazine, and whenever we visited, I'd end up on the floor of his
room reading PS magazines back before WWII. A lot of fun there. His dad was a
machinist, while mine was an auto mechanic, so the genes were good.

Gus's Garage was the best part for me, for a long, long time.

Hmmmm.... It's funny, PopSci is all I really know - but it's the best
I've been reading. In an effort to be melioric, I'm *willing* to
sacrifice THREE late vintage PopSci's for JUST ONE "Science and
Mechanics" mag. Or one pre-50s PopSci. Or one (1) popsicle stick.
.....Who'll give me a dollar?....

JP
***************
sigh

Jay Pique notes:

Hmmmm.... It's funny, PopSci is all I really know - but it's the best
I've been reading. In an effort to be melioric, I'm *willing* to
sacrifice THREE late vintage PopSci's for JUST ONE "Science and
Mechanics" mag. Or one pre-50s PopSci. Or one (1) popsicle stick.
....Who'll give me a dollar?....

I think the S&M mags may be collector's items by now, and it's probable that
the PS mags of that era are too. I've got a few article samples from S&M--Four
Stroke: Once And Future King (motorcycle buyers guide)--from back then, but not
much else. And that was probably 30 years ago. I seem to recall writing that
one shortly aftger I lived in Albany, NY and I left there in '72. Might have
popped in the mid-70s. Some of the bikes look a lot better to me than these
underdone racers now on the roads.




Charlie Self
"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire." Sir Winston
Churchill