In article 1100152319.+ODWFtGYKWZOSjgiq4V29w@teranews, "william_b_noble" wrote:
lol

the solution for chuck keys, wrenches, etc is to always hold them in your
hand - if you don't let go until it's removed from the tool, you won't start
the tool with the wrench attached. (works for me)

That's only half the solution. The other half is to make sure you put it down
in the same place every time, so you know where it is the next time you need
it.


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They make these nifty things for less than a buck which allow you to connect
the key to a cord. Or not, which I guess is why they're International
Orange.

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In article 1100152319.+ODWFtGYKWZOSjgiq4V29w@teranews, "william_b_noble"
wrote:
lol

the solution for chuck keys, wrenches, etc is to always hold them in your
hand - if you don't let go until it's removed from the tool, you won't
start
the tool with the wrench attached. (works for me)

That's only half the solution. The other half is to make sure you put it
down
in the same place every time, so you know where it is the next time you
need
it.


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In article , "George" george@least wrote:
They make these nifty things for less than a buck which allow you to connect
the key to a cord. Or not, which I guess is why they're International
Orange.

Not always practical on a drill press, though. I've never had problems losing
the chuck keys for my portable drills, but I had a hard time keeping track of
the drill press key until I bought one of these:

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.
asp?SID=&ccurrency=2&page=41734&category=1,42363,4 2356

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My press is close enough to the outlet that I can strap it to the cord.
It's also a self-ejector.

Didn't plan it, just worked out that way. Also has a hole in the rear of
the table designed to put the longer arm of the handle in.

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In article , "George" george@least wrote:
They make these nifty things for less than a buck which allow you to
connect
the key to a cord. Or not, which I guess is why they're International
Orange.

Not always practical on a drill press, though. I've never had problems
losing
the chuck keys for my portable drills, but I had a hard time keeping track
of
the drill press key until I bought one of these:

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.
asp?SID=&ccurrency=2&page=41734&category=1,42363,4 2356

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:07:15 +0000, Doug Miller wrote:

In article 1100152319.+ODWFtGYKWZOSjgiq4V29w@teranews, "william_b_noble"
wrote:
lol

the solution for chuck keys, wrenches, etc is to always hold them in your
hand - if you don't let go until it's removed from the tool, you won't
start the tool with the wrench attached. (works for me)

That's only half the solution. The other half is to make sure you put it
down in the same place every time, so you know where it is the next time
you need it.

Use a key with a spring loaded center pin which pops the key out if you
let go. I store the key on the right side of the belt housing with one
of those dime diameter rare earth magnets. The key _won't_ fall off on
its own.

-Doug

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 08:27:03 -0700, Doug Winterburn
calmly ranted:

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:07:15 +0000, Doug Miller wrote:

In article 1100152319.+ODWFtGYKWZOSjgiq4V29w@teranews, "william_b_noble"
wrote:
lol

the solution for chuck keys, wrenches, etc is to always hold them in your
hand - if you don't let go until it's removed from the tool, you won't
start the tool with the wrench attached. (works for me)

That's only half the solution. The other half is to make sure you put it
down in the same place every time, so you know where it is the next time
you need it.

Use a key with a spring loaded center pin which pops the key out if you
let go. I store the key on the right side of the belt housing with one
of those dime diameter rare earth magnets. The key _won't_ fall off on
its own.

I just jumped up and ran out to the shop, placing a dime diameter
RE magnets on the face of my drill press, then affixing the chuck
key to it. You're right, it will NOT get away on its own.

Thanks for the reminder, Doug.


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On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:59:46 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote:


I just jumped up and ran out to the shop, placing a dime diameter RE
magnets on the face of my drill press, then affixing the chuck key to it.
You're right, it will NOT get away on its own.

Make sure your DP is bolted down so you don't yank it over when pulling
the key of the RE magnet ;-)

-Doug

Put one on the bandsaw to hold the appropriate allen wrench (and the table
alignment pin when changing blades), also the ones for adjusting the table
on the disc sander etc.

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On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:59:46 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote:


I just jumped up and ran out to the shop, placing a dime diameter RE
magnets on the face of my drill press, then affixing the chuck key to
it.
You're right, it will NOT get away on its own.

Make sure your DP is bolted down so you don't yank it over when pulling
the key of the RE magnet ;-)

-Doug

DP chuck key and rare earth magnets? bright orange holders? buying
stuff from lee valley? am I the only person in the universe still
using a piece of string?





Larry Jaques wrote:

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 08:27:03 -0700, Doug Winterburn
calmly ranted:

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:07:15 +0000, Doug Miller wrote:

In article 1100152319.+ODWFtGYKWZOSjgiq4V29w@teranews, "william_b_noble"
wrote:
lol

the solution for chuck keys, wrenches, etc is to always hold them in your
hand - if you don't let go until it's removed from the tool, you won't
start the tool with the wrench attached. (works for me)

That's only half the solution. The other half is to make sure you put it
down in the same place every time, so you know where it is the next time
you need it.

Use a key with a spring loaded center pin which pops the key out if you
let go. I store the key on the right side of the belt housing with one
of those dime diameter rare earth magnets. The key _won't_ fall off on
its own.

I just jumped up and ran out to the shop, placing a dime diameter
RE magnets on the face of my drill press, then affixing the chuck
key to it. You're right, it will NOT get away on its own.

Thanks for the reminder, Doug.


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"Larry Levinson" wrote in message
...
DP chuck key and rare earth magnets? bright orange holders? buying
stuff from lee valley? am I the only person in the universe still
using a piece of string?


Nope. But we may be a couple of only a few. Sometimes it amazes me to read
the fascination with anything Lee Valley here. I've never purchased from
them, and I'm sure they have some very good stuff, as well, they seem to
have an excellent reputation, but they also seem to have an almost cult like
following. Seems just about anything that comes from them will at some
point become a recommended item. Someday I'm going to have to check this
place out...
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-Mike-

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 13:34:12 GMT, "Mike Marlow"
wrote:

the fascination with anything Lee Valley here. I've never purchased from
them, and I'm sure they have some very good stuff, as well, they seem to
have an excellent reputation, but they also seem to have an almost cult like
following.

Brother, you should take a read of The Book....

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 13:34:12 +0000, Mike Marlow wrote:

I've never purchased from
them,

Philistine.

They carry things that are normally difficult to
source locally in many places. It's not high end
stuff by any stretch, but it's available and fairly
priced. Try buying rare earth magnets at Home Depot.


Mike Marlow wrote:


Nope. But we may be a couple of only a few. Sometimes it amazes me to read
the fascination with anything Lee Valley here. I've never purchased from
them, and I'm sure they have some very good stuff, as well, they seem to
have an excellent reputation, but they also seem to have an almost cult like
following. Seems just about anything that comes from them will at some
point become a recommended item. Someday I'm going to have to check this
place out...

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 08:15:33 -0500, Larry Levinson wrote:

am I the only person in the universe still
using a piece of string?

Piece of 1/2" leather strap, riveted loop to hang on a hook, slits to hold
the key. Almost string.

--
"Use it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without."

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 08:15:33 -0500, Larry Levinson
calmly ranted:

DP chuck key and rare earth magnets? bright orange holders? buying
stuff from lee valley? am I the only person in the universe still
using a piece of string?

Yes. Next question, please.

P.S: You obviously haven't had the chuck key remain in
the chuck when you accidentally started it and had the
string wind around the shaft to the point you had to
dismantle the thing to get it off. (Luckily, no, I've just
read about it so this isn't a DAMHIKT. I have, however, had
an unstrung chuck key jump at my chest and could have sworn
I heard a "Hey, you forgot to take me out. Wheeeeeeeeeee!"
as it did.)


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"Larry Jaques" wrote

: ............... You obviously haven't had the chuck key remain in
: the chuck when you accidentally started it and had the
: string wind around the shaft to the point you had to
: dismantle the thing to get it off. (Luckily, no, I've just
: read about it so this isn't a DAMHIKT.

Some years ago, an incident occurred in an English school wherein a
youngster was operating a wire-tethered chuck key when a 'helper' switched
on the
drill.

The result was a finger amputation.

Jeff G

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ISP is clara.co.uk
www.amgron.clara.net

On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 07:47:08 -0000, "Jeff Gorman" seethesig calmly
ranted:

"Larry Jaques" wrote

: ............... You obviously haven't had the chuck key remain in
: the chuck when you accidentally started it and had the
: string wind around the shaft to the point you had to
: dismantle the thing to get it off. (Luckily, no, I've just
: read about it so this isn't a DAMHIKT.

Some years ago, an incident occurred in an English school wherein a
youngster was operating a wire-tethered chuck key when a 'helper' switched
on the
drill.

The result was a finger amputation.

Jeff G

That's a definite OUCH! alright.

I found a trick my new magnet can play today. I stuck
the chuck key on end and it stayed in position, with the
T attached to the magnet and the key hanging down! Those
little rare earth magnets are S T R O N G !

(What? Oh, yes. I _am_ easily amused.)

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Am I the only one that uses the metal clip on the side of the DP?

Wayne

"Larry Levinson" wrote in message
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DP chuck key and rare earth magnets? bright orange holders? buying
stuff from lee valley? am I the only person in the universe still
using a piece of string?





Larry Jaques wrote:

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 08:27:03 -0700, Doug Winterburn
calmly ranted:

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:07:15 +0000, Doug Miller wrote:

In article 1100152319.+ODWFtGYKWZOSjgiq4V29w@teranews,
"william_b_noble"
wrote:
lol

the solution for chuck keys, wrenches, etc is to always hold them in
your
hand - if you don't let go until it's removed from the tool, you won't
start the tool with the wrench attached. (works for me)

That's only half the solution. The other half is to make sure you put
it
down in the same place every time, so you know where it is the next
time
you need it.

Use a key with a spring loaded center pin which pops the key out if you
let go. I store the key on the right side of the belt housing with one
of those dime diameter rare earth magnets. The key _won't_ fall off on
its own.

I just jumped up and ran out to the shop, placing a dime diameter
RE magnets on the face of my drill press, then affixing the chuck
key to it. You're right, it will NOT get away on its own.

Thanks for the reminder, Doug.


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- nowhere. - * http://www.diversify.com
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(remove the star etc ....)

In article , "NoOne N Particular" wrote:
Am I the only one that uses the metal clip on the side of the DP?

My DP doesn't have one, hence the magnet. My benchtop mortiser does, though,
and that's where its chuck key lives.

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On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 18:43:42 GMT, (Doug Miller)
wrote:

In article , "NoOne N Particular" wrote:
Am I the only one that uses the metal clip on the side of the DP?

My DP doesn't have one, hence the magnet. My benchtop mortiser does, though,
and that's where its chuck key lives.

I'm actually surprised that no manufacturer has made a DP where the
chuck key has to be inserted into the on/off switch in order to turn
it on. It seems like the kind of idea that OSHA would love.

Tim Douglass

http://www.DouglassClan.com

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 17:56:21 GMT, "NoOne N Particular"
wrote:


"Larry Levinson" wrote in message
.. .
DP chuck key and rare earth magnets? bright orange holders? buying
stuff from lee valley? am I the only person in the universe still
using a piece of string?

Larry Jaques wrote:

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 08:27:03 -0700, Doug Winterburn
calmly ranted:

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:07:15 +0000, Doug Miller wrote:

.... snip
Use a key with a spring loaded center pin which pops the key out if you
let go. I store the key on the right side of the belt housing with one
of those dime diameter rare earth magnets. The key _won't_ fall off on
its own.

I just jumped up and ran out to the shop, placing a dime diameter
RE magnets on the face of my drill press, then affixing the chuck
key to it. You're right, it will NOT get away on its own.

Thanks for the reminder, Doug.



Am I the only one that uses the metal clip on the side of the DP?

Wayne


You may be the only one that has metal clip on the side of your DP. I
know my Jet has nothing of the sort.

Doug Winterburn wrote:
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:07:15 +0000, Doug Miller wrote:

Use a key with a spring loaded center pin which pops the key out if you
let go. I store the key on the right side of the belt housing with one
of those dime diameter rare earth magnets. The key _won't_ fall off on
its own.

I like what ToolKraft did with my DP. The long handle of the key
plugs into the motor housing for storage - and if the key hasn't
been stored, then the DP can't be turned on.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto, Iowa USA

Greetings and Salutations...

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 17:11:36 -0600, Morris Dovey
wrote:

Doug Winterburn wrote:
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:07:15 +0000, Doug Miller wrote:

Use a key with a spring loaded center pin which pops the key out if you
let go. I store the key on the right side of the belt housing with one
of those dime diameter rare earth magnets. The key _won't_ fall off on
its own.

I like what ToolKraft did with my DP. The long handle of the key
plugs into the motor housing for storage - and if the key hasn't
been stored, then the DP can't be turned on.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto, Iowa USA

I picked up a spring-loaded chain (looks kind of like a
small tape measure) that clips to one's belt/waistband, to hold
keys handily. I mounted it inside the belt housing on my press
with an "L" bracket, and, after pulling the chain through a
hole drilled in the bottom of the housing, hooked the chuck key
to it. Now..It is hanging handily out of the way, and, having the
chain attached to it makes it unlikely that it will get left
in the chuck by accident. The spring-loading, while strong enough
to retract the chuck if I let go of it, does not make it a
struggle to use the chuck.
Regards
Dave Mundt

Dave Mundt wrote:

I picked up a spring-loaded chain (looks kind of like a
small tape measure) that clips to one's belt/waistband, to hold
keys handily. I mounted it inside the belt housing on my press
with an "L" bracket, and, after pulling the chain through a
hole drilled in the bottom of the housing, hooked the chuck key
to it. Now..It is hanging handily out of the way, and, having the
chain attached to it makes it unlikely that it will get left
in the chuck by accident. The spring-loading, while strong enough
to retract the chuck if I let go of it, does not make it a
struggle to use the chuck.

My DP has the same thing and it works great. But it's not my idea -- it
came that way. I got my Jet from a woodworker who got married and developed
other hobbies. ;-)

-- Mark