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[email protected] October 3rd 04 04:36 AM

SCMS or CMS ??????????????
 
Hi,
I'm not sure to invest in a SCMS or just a CMS what would be the pro's
and cons.
Mikey

Edwin Pawlowski October 3rd 04 05:54 AM


wrote in message
I'm not sure to invest in a SCMS or just a CMS what would be the pro's
and cons.
Mikey


Sliders cots more but can cross cut wider. A 10" SCMS can cut about 11
1/2".

CMS are less likely to go out of adjustment since there are fewer parts to
move..

If you do a lot of framing or deck building with 2 x 12's, get the slider.



Prometheus October 3rd 04 03:54 PM

On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 04:54:33 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:


wrote in message
I'm not sure to invest in a SCMS or just a CMS what would be the pro's
and cons.
Mikey


Sliders cots more but can cross cut wider. A 10" SCMS can cut about 11
1/2".

CMS are less likely to go out of adjustment since there are fewer parts to
move..

If you do a lot of framing or deck building with 2 x 12's, get the slider.


Conversely, if you deal mainly with narrower boards (most of my
hardwood comes in 6" widths) I've found my CMS to be quite accurate
and easy to deal with. I just use my table saw for anything that is
too wide for the CMS, though if you're limited in space, this might
not always be an option. I've also found that in rare, limited
occasions, crosscutting a board with a width up to 10" is a reasable
task for a CMS, provided you can seat the blade in the kerf when you
flip the board over.

[email protected] October 3rd 04 05:03 PM

So, if I mainly do the weekend wodworker type stuff,cabinets and the
like my best option would be a 12" CMS and not the 10" SCMS????
Tahnks for the help.
Miey

Prometheus October 3rd 04 06:50 PM

On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 16:03:35 GMT, wrote:

So, if I mainly do the weekend wodworker type stuff,cabinets and the
like my best option would be a 12" CMS and not the 10" SCMS????


I'd say so, unless you've got the money to spare. Mine is a 10" CMS,
so a 12" would probably cut anything up to, say 8" in width without
much problem. If you're doing cabinets and things, this is all you're
likely to need. And it's obviously great fun to have all the tools
you can lay your hands on, so if you find the CMS is inadequate you
can always get the slider later on!

One other thing to consider- a SCMS *can* kick back the saw at you, a
CMS cannot. I've never had any problems, but I've heard stories of
people getting knocked back on their butts. Might be something to
consider if you're prone to joint pain (to prevent the kickback you
need to apply pressure to the saw to slow it down while it cuts)

Tahnks for the help.
Miey



patriarch October 3rd 04 09:18 PM

wrote in
:

So, if I mainly do the weekend wodworker type stuff,cabinets and the
like my best option would be a 12" CMS and not the 10" SCMS????
Tahnks for the help.
Miey


That's what I chose to do.

The thing to remember is that ANY saw can bite you, so be careful with it,
and consider what additional clamping or backboards would help you to make
controlled cuts, for whatever project you are taking on.

I like my yellow saw, by the way, anticipating your next question....

Patriarch

Edwin Pawlowski October 3rd 04 10:36 PM


wrote in message
...
So, if I mainly do the weekend wodworker type stuff,cabinets and the
like my best option would be a 12" CMS and not the 10" SCMS????
Tahnks for the help.
Miey


I like my DeWalt. It was about $300 for the 13"



Greg G. October 3rd 04 10:50 PM

Edwin Pawlowski said:


wrote in message
.. .
So, if I mainly do the weekend wodworker type stuff,cabinets and the
like my best option would be a 12" CMS and not the 10" SCMS????
Tahnks for the help.
Miey


I like my DeWalt. It was about $300 for the 13"


13" ?? - What is this, a game of one-upsmanship?

"Mine's bigger than Yours is..." ;-)

Or is this some product I have never seen.
And where on earth do you get 13" blades...


Greg G.

Edwin Pawlowski October 4th 04 12:05 AM



Greg G. wrote in message
I like my DeWalt. It was about $300 for the 13"


13" ?? - What is this, a game of one-upsmanship?

"Mine's bigger than Yours is..." ;-)


Hey, I'm always hoping for an extra inch. No, just a typo, should be 12"



Rumpty October 4th 04 03:14 AM

RAS.

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Hi,
I'm not sure to invest in a SCMS or just a CMS what would be the pro's
and cons.
Mikey




Malcolm Webb October 4th 04 08:09 AM

I know I'm going to feel real stupid when someone replies to this, but
I've been following this thread hoping that it would dawn on me what CMS
and SCMS stand for -- no luck I'm afraid :-(

In my professional work, CMS is an abbreviation for Coal Mining
Subsidence!!

Malcolm Webb



Greg G. October 4th 04 08:14 AM

Malcolm Webb said:

I know I'm going to feel real stupid when someone replies to this, but
I've been following this thread hoping that it would dawn on me what CMS
and SCMS stand for -- no luck I'm afraid :-(


Compound Miter Saw, and Sliding Compound Miter Saw.


Greg G.

Malcolm Webb October 4th 04 12:37 PM

Many thanks. I knew I would feel stupid when someone transalted.

Malcolm Webb



Greg G. October 4th 04 01:08 PM

Edwin Pawlowski said:



Greg G. wrote in message
I like my DeWalt. It was about $300 for the 13"


13" ?? - What is this, a game of one-upsmanship?

"Mine's bigger than Yours is..." ;-)


Hey, I'm always hoping for an extra inch. No, just a typo, should be 12"


I though as much, but thought I would be sure - lest someone out there
was confused (or impressed). ;-)


Greg G.

Greg G. October 4th 04 01:10 PM

Malcolm Webb said:

Many thanks. I knew I would feel stupid when someone transalted.

Malcolm Webb


Well there's stupid, and there's unenlightened.
You've just been enlightened.

There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers! ;-)


Greg G.

mac davis October 4th 04 03:50 PM

On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 12:37 +0100 (BST), (Malcolm Webb)
wrote:

Many thanks. I knew I would feel stupid when someone transalted.

Malcolm Webb

it's the sliding and non-slide version of what us technopeasants call
a cut off or "chop" saw.. *g*




Mac

mac davis October 4th 04 03:52 PM

On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 08:10:10 -0400, Greg G. wrote:

Malcolm Webb said:

Many thanks. I knew I would feel stupid when someone transalted.

Malcolm Webb


Well there's stupid, and there's unenlightened.
You've just been enlightened.

There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers! ;-)


Greg G.


got some word class advice a LONG time ago on my 1st job.. the boss
said something like "there are no stupid questions, only people stupid
enough to do things without asking questions first"...

I must of told a few hundred people that over the years when i worked
in real estate..


Mac

mac davis October 4th 04 03:56 PM

On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:36:47 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
So, if I mainly do the weekend wodworker type stuff,cabinets and the
like my best option would be a 12" CMS and not the 10" SCMS????
Tahnks for the help.
Miey


I like my DeWalt. It was about $300 for the 13"

hmm.. sounds like you're compensating here... lol


Mac

mac davis October 4th 04 03:57 PM

On Sun, 3 Oct 2004 22:14:18 -0400, "Rumpty"
wrote:

RAS.


yup.. with a good cut off saw and a RAS, you can pretty much figure
that your (power) sawing is covered..


Mac

Malcolm Webb October 6th 04 07:18 AM

I never did dare ask what a chop saw was. Here in the UK words like
"chop" and "saw" don't go together. Axes chop, saws cut :-)

Malcolm Webb



Greg G. October 6th 04 09:23 AM

Malcolm Webb said:

I never did dare ask what a chop saw was. Here in the UK words like
"chop" and "saw" don't go together. Axes chop, saws cut :-)


Aw, whaddya expect from a country where Dado blades are illegal. ;-)
If you saw a crew of illegals on a construction site whacking house
trim with a CMS - you would understand how the term was coined! ;-)


Greg G.

mac davis October 6th 04 03:34 PM

On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 07:18 +0100 (BST), (Malcolm Webb)
wrote:

I never did dare ask what a chop saw was. Here in the UK words like
"chop" and "saw" don't go together. Axes chop, saws cut :-)

Malcolm Webb

yeah, but you guys light fags and find no magic in a poof.. *g*


Mac

Sam Schmenk October 6th 04 04:24 PM

Agreed. CMS for portability and RAS for larger crosscuts. I
particularly like using 10" blades for both, as well as the table saw.
There's always a good crosscut blade around even if one or two is
being sharpened.
SS

Brian Morris October 7th 04 01:00 PM

Well, here in Canada we call it a Mitre saw
"Malcolm Webb" wrote in message
o.uk...
I never did dare ask what a chop saw was. Here in the UK words like
"chop" and "saw" don't go together. Axes chop, saws cut :-)

Malcolm Webb






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