On Sun, 2 May 2021 20:07:29 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 9:35:40 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 2 May 2021 12:43:35 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

What a crazy housing market this is! My #1 son and his GF just
found out that their offer has been accepted.

Here is how houses are being bought these days…

First, I should note that the submission period for offers was the 48
hours after the house hit the market. This was one of those listings
where all offers would be reviewed at the same time and the sellers
would choose the one that they liked the best.

Since my son and his GF are relocating to a different state, they
haven’t even seen the house in person. Just pictures, a video tour
and their agent’s assurance that the house was listed at a great
price, way under what she expected it to sell for. (She was right)
They submitted their offer within a few hours of the house being
listed. There was a total of 12 offers submitted in that 48 hour period.

They submitted an offer at full asking price ($370K), no contingencies.
The offer included an escalation clause. The escalation clause would
automatically increase their offer to $1000 more than the highest offer
submitted, but not to exceed $410K. They also included an "appraisal
clause" which stated that they would give the sellers up to $15K above
the appraised value, not to exceed $425K.

Their offer was accepted, not just based on the offer price, but also
based on the appraisal clause. Another offer also had an escalation
clause that maxed out at $410K, but the appraisal clause was only
$13K above the appraisal value, $2K less than their offer. That was
close!

So they may pay as much as $425K, but they may pay less than the
$410K if the appraisal is low – assuming it’s not so low that the seller
backs out. Their agent is sure that the appraised value won’t be low
enough for that to happen. The seller is moving out of town and needs
to get the house sold, thus the comparatively low asking price.

One other clause was a 15 day due-diligence clause, which was
accepted. Even though the offer was “as-is” and not contingent on an
inspection, they are still going to have one done and can use that to
negotiate repairs or get out of the contract if the seller’s disclosure form
is not accurate. They are hoping that at least one of them can be present
for the inspection.
The last two houses we've bought didn't allow us to be present at
inspection. One was new, so I wasn't worried but this one concerned
me a bit (foreclosure)

Who said that you weren't allowed? Wasn't he working on your dime?

Agent and inspector.

For the 2 houses that my daughter put offers in on, both inspectors let her,
me and SWMBO be present at the inspection. They answered every question
I had as I followed them around taking notes. Real nice guys. The inspectors
worked for my daughter and we made sure we got her money's worth.

Mine did in NY and VT, too.

Good thing too. She was infatuated with the first house but it needed way too
many repairs. It was the inspection that allowed her to get out of the contract.
If Mom and I hadn't been there I don't think she would have heard a thing that
the inspector said.

I didn't say they couldn't be inspected, just that I couldn't be
there. I did get the inspection reports.

On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 11:22:58 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 2 May 2021 20:07:29 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 9:35:40 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 2 May 2021 12:43:35 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

What a crazy housing market this is! My #1 son and his GF just
found out that their offer has been accepted.

Here is how houses are being bought these days€¦

First, I should note that the submission period for offers was the 48
hours after the house hit the market. This was one of those listings
where all offers would be reviewed at the same time and the sellers
would choose the one that they liked the best.

Since my son and his GF are relocating to a different state, they
havent even seen the house in person. Just pictures, a video tour
and their agents assurance that the house was listed at a great
price, way under what she expected it to sell for. (She was right)
They submitted their offer within a few hours of the house being
listed. There was a total of 12 offers submitted in that 48 hour period.

They submitted an offer at full asking price ($370K), no contingencies.
The offer included an escalation clause. The escalation clause would
automatically increase their offer to $1000 more than the highest offer
submitted, but not to exceed $410K. They also included an "appraisal
clause" which stated that they would give the sellers up to $15K above
the appraised value, not to exceed $425K.

Their offer was accepted, not just based on the offer price, but also
based on the appraisal clause. Another offer also had an escalation
clause that maxed out at $410K, but the appraisal clause was only
$13K above the appraisal value, $2K less than their offer. That was
close!

So they may pay as much as $425K, but they may pay less than the
$410K if the appraisal is low €“ assuming its not so low that the seller
backs out. Their agent is sure that the appraised value wont be low
enough for that to happen. The seller is moving out of town and needs
to get the house sold, thus the comparatively low asking price.

One other clause was a 15 day due-diligence clause, which was
accepted. Even though the offer was €œas-is€� and not contingent on an
inspection, they are still going to have one done and can use that to
negotiate repairs or get out of the contract if the sellers disclosure form
is not accurate. They are hoping that at least one of them can be present
for the inspection.
The last two houses we've bought didn't allow us to be present at
inspection. One was new, so I wasn't worried but this one concerned
me a bit (foreclosure)

Who said that you weren't allowed? Wasn't he working on your dime?
Agent and inspector.
For the 2 houses that my daughter put offers in on, both inspectors let her,
me and SWMBO be present at the inspection. They answered every question
I had as I followed them around taking notes. Real nice guys. The inspectors
worked for my daughter and we made sure we got her money's worth.
Mine did in NY and VT, too.
Good thing too. She was infatuated with the first house but it needed way too
many repairs. It was the inspection that allowed her to get out of the contract.
If Mom and I hadn't been there I don't think she would have heard a thing that
the inspector said.
I didn't say they couldn't be inspected, just that I couldn't be
there. I did get the inspection reports.

Our discussion was related to be allowed to tag along with the inspector, not
about the allowance of the inspection itself.

Mentally insert the words "we allowed to be there" after "Good thing" and re-read
that paragraph.

On Mon, 3 May 2021 06:49:10 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 11:22:58 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 2 May 2021 20:07:29 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 9:35:40 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 2 May 2021 12:43:35 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

What a crazy housing market this is! My #1 son and his GF just
found out that their offer has been accepted.

Here is how houses are being bought these days…

First, I should note that the submission period for offers was the 48
hours after the house hit the market. This was one of those listings
where all offers would be reviewed at the same time and the sellers
would choose the one that they liked the best.

Since my son and his GF are relocating to a different state, they
haven’t even seen the house in person. Just pictures, a video tour
and their agent’s assurance that the house was listed at a great
price, way under what she expected it to sell for. (She was right)
They submitted their offer within a few hours of the house being
listed. There was a total of 12 offers submitted in that 48 hour period.

They submitted an offer at full asking price ($370K), no contingencies.
The offer included an escalation clause. The escalation clause would
automatically increase their offer to $1000 more than the highest offer
submitted, but not to exceed $410K. They also included an "appraisal
clause" which stated that they would give the sellers up to $15K above
the appraised value, not to exceed $425K.

Their offer was accepted, not just based on the offer price, but also
based on the appraisal clause. Another offer also had an escalation
clause that maxed out at $410K, but the appraisal clause was only
$13K above the appraisal value, $2K less than their offer. That was
close!

So they may pay as much as $425K, but they may pay less than the
$410K if the appraisal is low – assuming it’s not so low that the seller
backs out. Their agent is sure that the appraised value won’t be low
enough for that to happen. The seller is moving out of town and needs
to get the house sold, thus the comparatively low asking price.

One other clause was a 15 day due-diligence clause, which was
accepted. Even though the offer was “as-is” and not contingent on an
inspection, they are still going to have one done and can use that to
negotiate repairs or get out of the contract if the seller’s disclosure form
is not accurate. They are hoping that at least one of them can be present
for the inspection.
The last two houses we've bought didn't allow us to be present at
inspection. One was new, so I wasn't worried but this one concerned
me a bit (foreclosure)

Who said that you weren't allowed? Wasn't he working on your dime?
Agent and inspector.
For the 2 houses that my daughter put offers in on, both inspectors let her,
me and SWMBO be present at the inspection. They answered every question
I had as I followed them around taking notes. Real nice guys. The inspectors
worked for my daughter and we made sure we got her money's worth.
Mine did in NY and VT, too.
Good thing too. She was infatuated with the first house but it needed way too
many repairs. It was the inspection that allowed her to get out of the contract.
If Mom and I hadn't been there I don't think she would have heard a thing that
the inspector said.
I didn't say they couldn't be inspected, just that I couldn't be
there. I did get the inspection reports.

Our discussion was related to be allowed to tag along with the inspector, not
about the allowance of the inspection itself.

Right, I wasn't allowed to be there.

Mentally insert the words "we allowed to be there" after "Good thing" and re-read
that paragraph.

It was clunky but you did ask "Who said..." so it must have gotten the
point across. It really doesn't matter.