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David August 23rd 04 08:54 AM

What type of wood is this?
 
I recently purchased a baby changing table for $20.00 because it looked
rickety and cheap. My goal was to do a quick refinish job and tighten the
joints so it would be in better condition. (My plan is not to make something
that will last forever, just long enough to get our baby out of diapers).

The existing coating was a white pickled looking finish that was peeling
away and seemed more like melamine than finish. I started sanding the pieces
today and the wood underneath actually seems to be quite nice. It seems very
dense and sands very smooth without splintering. (My previous project was an
oak dresser that splintered if I used any kind of low-grit sandpaper on a
random-pad sander, so this seemed much easier to work with). In addition to
this, the grain on the wood is actually quite attractive to me and it seems
strange it would be nearly covered by the dull white finish. I am not sure
if that was the original factory finish or if it was added by one of the
previous owners.

Anyways, I was just curious if someone could help me figure out what kind of
wood it is? Comparing the grain to some desks I have, it looks like it might
be birch, but I am no expert, so I figure I would open this up to the
masses!

The pictures are he
http://www.kryogenic.org/wood/wood.htm

Let me know if you can identify this.

--
Thanks,
David



David Zaret August 23rd 04 11:00 AM

my guess is white maple. i'd put money on it. if so, it's a very hard,
durable wood, and with a little refinishing it'll be beautiful.

granted, i might lose my money, but it wouldn't be the first time.

good luck,

-- dz


David wrote:
I recently purchased a baby changing table for $20.00 because it looked
rickety and cheap. My goal was to do a quick refinish job and tighten the
joints so it would be in better condition. (My plan is not to make something
that will last forever, just long enough to get our baby out of diapers).

The existing coating was a white pickled looking finish that was peeling
away and seemed more like melamine than finish. I started sanding the pieces
today and the wood underneath actually seems to be quite nice. It seems very
dense and sands very smooth without splintering. (My previous project was an
oak dresser that splintered if I used any kind of low-grit sandpaper on a
random-pad sander, so this seemed much easier to work with). In addition to
this, the grain on the wood is actually quite attractive to me and it seems
strange it would be nearly covered by the dull white finish. I am not sure
if that was the original factory finish or if it was added by one of the
previous owners.

Anyways, I was just curious if someone could help me figure out what kind of
wood it is? Comparing the grain to some desks I have, it looks like it might
be birch, but I am no expert, so I figure I would open this up to the
masses!

The pictures are he
http://www.kryogenic.org/wood/wood.htm

Let me know if you can identify this.


Bjarte Runderheim August 23rd 04 11:39 AM


"David Zaret" skrev i melding
m...

my guess is white maple. i'd put money on it. if so, it's a very hard,
durable wood, and with a little refinishing it'll be beautiful.

granted, i might lose my money, but it wouldn't be the first time.



Could it not be beechwood?
Especially the sideshot of a plank, (the dotty part)
seems to indicate to me that beech is a strong possibility.

Bjarte



George August 23rd 04 12:16 PM

Won't lose it to me. Soft maple is my choice, too. If the color's off,
could be something like alder, though.

What it definitely is not is birch.

"David Zaret" wrote in message
m...
my guess is white maple. i'd put money on it. if so, it's a very hard,
durable wood, and with a little refinishing it'll be beautiful.

granted, i might lose my money, but it wouldn't be the first time.

Anyways, I was just curious if someone could help me figure out what

kind of
wood it is? Comparing the grain to some desks I have, it looks like it

might
be birch, but I am no expert, so I figure I would open this up to the
masses!

The pictures are he
http://www.kryogenic.org/wood/wood.htm

Let me know if you can identify this.




MikeG August 23rd 04 01:10 PM

In article ,
says...
I recently purchased a baby changing table for $20.00 because it looked
rickety and cheap. My goal was to do a quick refinish job and tighten the
joints so it would be in better condition. (My plan is not to make something
that will last forever, just long enough to get our baby out of diapers).

The existing coating was a white pickled looking finish that was peeling
away and seemed more like melamine than finish. I started sanding the pieces
today and the wood underneath actually seems to be quite nice. It seems very
dense and sands very smooth without splintering. (My previous project was an
oak dresser that splintered if I used any kind of low-grit sandpaper on a
random-pad sander, so this seemed much easier to work with). In addition to
this, the grain on the wood is actually quite attractive to me and it seems
strange it would be nearly covered by the dull white finish. I am not sure
if that was the original factory finish or if it was added by one of the
previous owners.

Anyways, I was just curious if someone could help me figure out what kind of
wood it is? Comparing the grain to some desks I have, it looks like it might
be birch, but I am no expert, so I figure I would open this up to the
masses!

The pictures are he
http://www.kryogenic.org/wood/wood.htm

Let me know if you can identify this.


Rubber wood maybe


--
MikeG
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net


Mike Hide August 23rd 04 01:26 PM

Maple me thinks....mjh



Mark Hopkins August 23rd 04 06:06 PM

Maple..

"David" wrote in message
...
I recently purchased a baby changing table for $20.00 because it looked
rickety and cheap. My goal was to do a quick refinish job and tighten the
joints so it would be in better condition. (My plan is not to make

something
that will last forever, just long enough to get our baby out of diapers).

The existing coating was a white pickled looking finish that was peeling
away and seemed more like melamine than finish. I started sanding the

pieces
today and the wood underneath actually seems to be quite nice. It seems

very
dense and sands very smooth without splintering. (My previous project was

an
oak dresser that splintered if I used any kind of low-grit sandpaper on a
random-pad sander, so this seemed much easier to work with). In addition

to
this, the grain on the wood is actually quite attractive to me and it

seems
strange it would be nearly covered by the dull white finish. I am not sure
if that was the original factory finish or if it was added by one of the
previous owners.

Anyways, I was just curious if someone could help me figure out what kind

of
wood it is? Comparing the grain to some desks I have, it looks like it

might
be birch, but I am no expert, so I figure I would open this up to the
masses!

The pictures are he
http://www.kryogenic.org/wood/wood.htm

Let me know if you can identify this.

--
Thanks,
David





Dave Balderstone August 23rd 04 07:03 PM

Sure looks like maple to me.

djb

Fred the Red Shirt August 23rd 04 09:31 PM

"Mike Hide" wrote in message news:LnlWc.74844$TI1.67537@attbi_s52...
Maple me thinks....mjh


Yep, that's maple. The clincher is the tiny ray-flecks (not
pores) in the quarter sawn grain that show up in maple and
cherry only when the grain is very close to perpendicular
to the surface.

--

FF

David August 24th 04 12:20 AM

So the consensus seems to be Maple. I am amazed. Seems like Maple is pretty
expensive but this thing wasnt well taken care of.

Thanks for all the help!
--
Thanks,
David W. Lovell
( Intrepid )
"Fred the Red Shirt" wrote in message
m...
"Mike Hide" wrote in message

news:LnlWc.74844$TI1.67537@attbi_s52...
Maple me thinks....mjh


Yep, that's maple. The clincher is the tiny ray-flecks (not
pores) in the quarter sawn grain that show up in maple and
cherry only when the grain is very close to perpendicular
to the surface.

--

FF




patriarch August 24th 04 05:55 AM

"David" wrote in
:

So the consensus seems to be Maple. I am amazed. Seems like Maple is
pretty expensive but this thing wasnt well taken care of.

Thanks for all the help!


Could be soft maple, which isn't all that pricey, or all that soft. Small
quantities of 4/4, s2s1e, in the SF Bay Area, $3.10/bf

Patriarch

Fred the Red Shirt August 24th 04 06:52 AM

"David" wrote in message . ..
So the consensus seems to be Maple. I am amazed. Seems like Maple is pretty
expensive but this thing wasnt well taken care of.


Expensive compared to what? In most places Maple is cheaper than
walnut, cherry, mahogany, or birch, and it is harder and more
durable than those. Often Oak is cheaper than maple, but not
by a lot.

I think you'll find that a lot of school furniture was made of
maple. I think the student deks back when I was in school
were made from maple ply and sheet steel, and the maple ply
may have been maple all the way through. It was very tough
stuff, usually outlasted the steel.

--

FF

Fred the Red Shirt August 24th 04 06:57 AM

"Bjarte Runderheim" wrote in message ...


Could it not be beechwood?
Especially the sideshot of a plank, (the dotty part)
seems to indicate to me that beech is a strong possibility.


The ray flecks in beech are more prominant, though less so than
in oak. A fair amount of modern 'maple' furniture is made from
beech, just like the oak furniture at K-Mart is made from
rubber wood.

--

FF

David August 24th 04 08:14 AM

Well, I am not a connoisseur of wood pricing, but I know that paying $20.00
for this selection of nice wood seems to be much cheaper than I could buy
even average pine at Home Depot or Rockler. So its not that this wood is
necessarily comparatively expensive, just seems like its nicer than I would
have expected for the price I paid.

--
Thanks,
David W. Lovell
( Intrepid )
"Fred the Red Shirt" wrote in message
m...
"David" wrote in message

. ..
So the consensus seems to be Maple. I am amazed. Seems like Maple is

pretty
expensive but this thing wasnt well taken care of.


Expensive compared to what? In most places Maple is cheaper than
walnut, cherry, mahogany, or birch, and it is harder and more
durable than those. Often Oak is cheaper than maple, but not
by a lot.

I think you'll find that a lot of school furniture was made of
maple. I think the student deks back when I was in school
were made from maple ply and sheet steel, and the maple ply
may have been maple all the way through. It was very tough
stuff, usually outlasted the steel.

--

FF




patriarch August 24th 04 02:30 PM

"David" wrote in
:

Well, I am not a connoisseur of wood pricing, but I know that paying
$20.00 for this selection of nice wood seems to be much cheaper than I
could buy even average pine at Home Depot or Rockler. So its not that
this wood is necessarily comparatively expensive, just seems like its
nicer than I would have expected for the price I paid.


Life's great that way, sometimes, isn't it?

Enjoy the new addition to the family.

Patriarch

Fred the Red Shirt August 25th 04 04:40 PM

"David" wrote in message . ..
Well, I am not a connoisseur of wood pricing, but I know that paying $20.00
for this selection of nice wood seems to be much cheaper than I could buy
even average pine at Home Depot or Rockler. So its not that this wood is
necessarily comparatively expensive, just seems like its nicer than I would
have expected for the price I paid.


A few years back I looked at some $13.99/bf curly maple at a hardwood
lumber store in Balmore, MD. At the same time Sandy Pond, about 100
miles North of there, sold curly maple for $2.50/bf, $3.50/bf for
fiddle back I think. Possible the store bought theirs from Sandy
Pond.

On the West coast poplar is more expensive than pine, On the East
coat pine is more expensive than Poplar.

So what you have learned is that if you want a real good price for
good lumber you don't buy at Home Depot or Rockler. OTOH you may
find it convenient enough to buy there to be worth paying the higher
price.

--

FF

J. Clarke August 25th 04 05:03 PM

Fred the Red Shirt wrote:

"David" wrote in message
. ..
So the consensus seems to be Maple. I am amazed. Seems like Maple is
pretty expensive but this thing wasnt well taken care of.


Expensive compared to what? In most places Maple is cheaper than
walnut, cherry, mahogany, or birch, and it is harder and more
durable than those.


Minor nit--"durable" usually refers to decay resistance--maple is not
particularly good in that regard--walnut, cherry, and mahogany are all mure
durable in that regard than maple.

Often Oak is cheaper than maple, but not
by a lot.

I think you'll find that a lot of school furniture was made of
maple. I think the student deks back when I was in school
were made from maple ply and sheet steel, and the maple ply
may have been maple all the way through. It was very tough
stuff, usually outlasted the steel.


--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

David August 25th 04 07:04 PM

Good tip. In that case, how does one new to the trade find all these other
sources? I am in Renton, WA.

--
Thanks,
David W. Lovell
( Intrepid )
"Fred the Red Shirt" wrote in message
om...
"David" wrote in message

. ..
Well, I am not a connoisseur of wood pricing, but I know that paying

$20.00
for this selection of nice wood seems to be much cheaper than I could

buy
even average pine at Home Depot or Rockler. So its not that this wood is
necessarily comparatively expensive, just seems like its nicer than I

would
have expected for the price I paid.


A few years back I looked at some $13.99/bf curly maple at a hardwood
lumber store in Balmore, MD. At the same time Sandy Pond, about 100
miles North of there, sold curly maple for $2.50/bf, $3.50/bf for
fiddle back I think. Possible the store bought theirs from Sandy
Pond.

On the West coast poplar is more expensive than pine, On the East
coat pine is more expensive than Poplar.

So what you have learned is that if you want a real good price for
good lumber you don't buy at Home Depot or Rockler. OTOH you may
find it convenient enough to buy there to be worth paying the higher
price.

--

FF




Charlie Self August 25th 04 07:39 PM

David asks:

Good tip. In that case, how does one new to the trade find all these other
sources? I am in Renton, WA.


Start by checking www.woodfinder.com. You'll find at least a couple local or
nearly local sources there, I'd guess.

Check FWW ads. Check the other magazines for ads in the back of the book.

I don't know how a search on google would do, but it will take you only
seconds: "hardwood dealers" and so on. I got 126 responses to that particular
request, including quotes. Lots of mail order lumber dealers around.

Good luck.

Charlie Self
"A judge is a law student who marks his own examination papers." H. L. Mencken

Fred the Red Shirt August 26th 04 03:36 PM

"David" wrote in message . ..
Good tip. In that case, how does one new to the trade find all these other
sources? I am in Renton, WA.


Sandy Pond has a webpage, and so do many places. Google and Altavista
are your friends. The Yellow pages are still handy. I learned on this
newsgroup about a mill I had driven by perhaps two dozen times and
never noticed befor.

Generally speaking, you want to look for mills in rural areas close
to where the lumber is cut. That's where the retailers buy theirs.

Probably others in your area will see this and reply, you can also use
Google to search the rec.woodworking archives for terms like
"lumber", "washington", "mill" and so forth in various combinations.

--

FF


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