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I need some suggestion about a plan, please
Hallo!
I am now dealing with a projects which is more complex than any I've done before, for several reason, among which it is the first to be put in our living room (and therefore my wife will be much less unforgiving than ever!!!!). The second reason: it is the first time I do not follow strictly an existing plan, which puts me in front of choinces up to now I've never had to take. After I submitted several plans to my wife approval, with no success, the one below href=http://www.leviatano.net/projects/salotto1.jpg surprisingly met her enthusiasm, which is a convincing reason to proceed... the point is that while she's satisfied with the aesthetic (is this the spelling?) now I must face those annoying technicalities like 'how will I make it, now?'. Dimensions are 36"Wx36"Lx24"H The legs are 2-3/8"Wx2-3/8"L and the sides are 1" thick. I was thinking of cherry (for the sides) and mahogany (for the legs). My first worry is about the glass top and how I should accomodate for wood shrinking: in my plan there is a 1/2" rebate over which the glass lays. I suppose I should leave some spacing bw. the glass and the rebate edge (I hope I am clear enough, as I am not confident with English 'woodworking' terms), but how much? Secondly: I am really hesitating about the joint to use bw. sides and legs. After studying the woodworker's joint book, my first thought was a sliding dovetail, but as I should stop the sides from sliding 'down' I should insert the tail from the top, which is ugly. So, after aving pondered the pros and cons of tenons, dowels, biscuits and whatever, now I am here completely clueless! Any hint is welcome. Thank you, Luciano |
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What is it? Coffee table? Is that a disco ball inside? It looks good anyway, and interesting. This is an appropriate project to use cherry veneer plywood for the sides. Try 3/4", and if you want the look of 1" at the top then just add solid stock along the top edge. Using the plywood will save you money, weight, and time, and will eliminate the concern you have with dimensional changes with humidity. If you use solid wood you do have a problem. So, use plywood. Really! Have you considered orienting the grain in the side panels horizontally? That would look better to my eye. But SWMBO's eye is all that matters. For joinery between panels and legs, we need to know if you want evidence of the joint to show at the top of the leg. If you do, then a sliding dovetail would look nice there, or a dado in the leg, or a loose tenon/spline. If you don't care for the joint to show, then biscuits or dowels would be easy and strong. Use the joint that looks good to you and you feel proficient to produce. You will post a pic when you are done, per favore? -- Bill Pounds http://www.billpounds.com/woodshop "feanorelf" wrote in message om... Hallo! I am now dealing with a projects which is more complex than any I've done before, for several reason, among which it is the first to be put in our living room (and therefore my wife will be much less unforgiving than ever!!!!). The second reason: it is the first time I do not follow strictly an existing plan, which puts me in front of choinces up to now I've never had to take. After I submitted several plans to my wife approval, with no success, the one below href=http://www.leviatano.net/projects/salotto1.jpg surprisingly met her enthusiasm, which is a convincing reason to proceed... the point is that while she's satisfied with the aesthetic (is this the spelling?) now I must face those annoying technicalities like 'how will I make it, now?'. Dimensions are 36"Wx36"Lx24"H The legs are 2-3/8"Wx2-3/8"L and the sides are 1" thick. I was thinking of cherry (for the sides) and mahogany (for the legs). My first worry is about the glass top and how I should accomodate for wood shrinking: in my plan there is a 1/2" rebate over which the glass lays. I suppose I should leave some spacing bw. the glass and the rebate edge (I hope I am clear enough, as I am not confident with English 'woodworking' terms), but how much? Secondly: I am really hesitating about the joint to use bw. sides and legs. After studying the woodworker's joint book, my first thought was a sliding dovetail, but as I should stop the sides from sliding 'down' I should insert the tail from the top, which is ugly. So, after aving pondered the pros and cons of tenons, dowels, biscuits and whatever, now I am here completely clueless! Any hint is welcome. Thank you, Luciano |
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"Pounds on Wood" wrote in message ...
What is it? Coffee table? Is that a disco ball inside? It looks good anyway, and interesting. Coffee table, I guess (I mean, in Italian I would call it 'tavolino' which means small table and has a very general use). The ball inside has nothing to do with the table: we have some spheres of colored glass we took from Mexico which I try to put in the most hidden spots of the house Actually I had a 'bad' surprise about my 'originality' when, reordering my bookshelf, I saw the cover of a Taunton book about box-making I read las year: http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P...2.LZZZZZZZ.jpg with humidity. If you use solid wood you do have a problem. So, use plywood. Really! I had thought about plywood, but I am really concerned about veneering: it seems to me something far beyond my ablility. Have you considered orienting the grain in the side panels horizontally? That would look better to my eye. But SWMBO's eye is all that matters. Actually, grain orientation in the picture is not mi choice, but software choice. Yes, I thought to orient the grain horizontally (actually to minimize horizontal movement, more than for the look of it). For joinery between panels and legs, we need to know if you want evidence of the joint to show at the top of the leg. If you do, then a sliding dovetail would look nice there, or a dado in the leg, or a loose tenon/spline. If you don't care for the joint to show, then biscuits or dowels would be easy and strong. Use the joint that looks good to you and you feel proficient to produce. Probably, given the design, I'd rather hiding the joint... but maybe I need to think a little more about this. You will post a pic when you are done, per favore? It depends on the result -- Bill Pounds http://www.billpounds.com/woodshop "feanorelf" wrote in message om... Hallo! I am now dealing with a projects which is more complex than any I've done before, for several reason, among which it is the first to be put in our living room (and therefore my wife will be much less unforgiving than ever!!!!). The second reason: it is the first time I do not follow strictly an existing plan, which puts me in front of choinces up to now I've never had to take. After I submitted several plans to my wife approval, with no success, the one below href=http://www.leviatano.net/projects/salotto1.jpg surprisingly met her enthusiasm, which is a convincing reason to proceed... the point is that while she's satisfied with the aesthetic (is this the spelling?) now I must face those annoying technicalities like 'how will I make it, now?'. Dimensions are 36"Wx36"Lx24"H The legs are 2-3/8"Wx2-3/8"L and the sides are 1" thick. I was thinking of cherry (for the sides) and mahogany (for the legs). My first worry is about the glass top and how I should accomodate for wood shrinking: in my plan there is a 1/2" rebate over which the glass lays. I suppose I should leave some spacing bw. the glass and the rebate edge (I hope I am clear enough, as I am not confident with English 'woodworking' terms), but how much? Secondly: I am really hesitating about the joint to use bw. sides and legs. After studying the woodworker's joint book, my first thought was a sliding dovetail, but as I should stop the sides from sliding 'down' I should insert the tail from the top, which is ugly. So, after aving pondered the pros and cons of tenons, dowels, biscuits and whatever, now I am here completely clueless! Any hint is welcome. Thank you, Luciano |
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-- "feanorelf" wrote in message om... I had thought about plywood, but I am really concerned about veneering: it seems to me something far beyond my ablility. What you want is plywood with the veneer already applied. It is very easy to find in the US. Probably, given the design, I'd rather hiding the joint... but maybe I need to think a little more about this. A contrasting wood spline would look nice I think. You will post a pic when you are done, per favore? It depends on the result It will look great I'm sure. ******** Bill Pounds http://www.billpounds.com |
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"feanorelf" wrote in message
om... I had thought about plywood, but I am really concerned about veneering: it seems to me something far beyond my ablility. What you want is plywood with the veneer already applied. It is very easy to find in the US. I guess... browsing your woodworking online stores it seems to me everything is much easier to find in Italy for hobbyists than here in Italy. Here it seems thatr everything is fit to the needs and volumes of the pros, while hobbyists have little hardware and tools choices, and expensive. Nevertheless, I'll try to find it (or maybe I'll buy it on my next journey to US). I have never worked with veneers: are there any particular cares you should take when sanding (if you have to sand it) and finishing it? And about the edges, I suppose I should use those veneer tapes, shouldn't I? Probably, given the design, I'd rather hiding the joint... but maybe I need to think a little more about this. A contrasting wood spline would look nice I think. That's what I was thinking of while you suggested me to show the joint: it's an idea I am starting to like. |
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