Several days ago I mentioned a Maui job that I have. Nothing big but
more than nothing. ;~0

The 6 maple cabinet doors. Each 36" tall and range in width from 14.75"
to 17.74" A recess 1/2" wide and 5/16" deep in the back will receive
stained glass when back in Hawaii. Also "my" version of the Ron Polk
work bench was great to work on, seen in this picture. Pulled out and
set up in about 2 minutes. It is particularity sturdy although the lite
weight saw horses hardly look up to the task. I can literally hop up on
the bench and not a creek is heard. IIRC Nailshooter saw a 1/8"
deflection, in the middle with me on top, between the two halves over
the 8 foot length.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...posted-public/

Close ups of the joinery. All of the joints are reinforced by a 5x30mm
Domino floating tenon. The tenon is centered in the thicker portion of
the joints.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...posted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...posted-public/

And one last and really nothing special piece. One of my customers is a
big time quilter. She has one of those specialty sewing desks with a
remote controlled sewing machine lift. These faux wood desks are made
out of particle board with a plastic veneer covering. These desks are
also shockingly expensive as are their accessories.

Anyway she bought a new Pfaff sewing machine and the insert that fits
the machine like a glove was not available for her sewing desk. Not
totally unlike a TS zero clearance insert in function.
So she called on me to make one. Oddly it only took me two trips to
measure and tweak the fit of the insert. I made it out of 1/2" Baltic
birch and routed a rabbet around the bottom perimeter to mate with the
similar lip on the sewing desk.


Typically this 1/4" x 12 ish x 24 ish accessory insert sells for an
additional $200.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...posted-public/

Oh, and the purple insulation foam board cut offs in the back ground are
for the 8 foot x 7.75 foot quilt design wall that I just finished for my
wife's sewing studio. I would show a picture of that but it only looks
like a piece of white material, of the same dimensions, hanging on the wall.

On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 11:29:59 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
I can literally hop up on
the bench and not a creek is heard. IIRC Nailshooter saw a 1/8"
deflection, in the middle with me on top, between the two halves over
the 8 foot length.

A little less rice & gravy and meat & potatoes might solve that issue.

And one last and really nothing special piece. One of my customers is a
big time quilter. She has one of those specialty sewing desks with a
remote controlled sewing machine lift. These faux wood desks are made
out of particle board with a plastic veneer covering. These desks are
also shockingly expensive as are their accessories.

The tables for my sewing machines are made of particle board, also. You would think they would be of better quality lumber. Over time, from oiling the machines, the particle board swells and deteriorates in places.

Anyway she bought a new Pfaff sewing machine and the insert that fits
the machine like a glove was not available for her sewing desk. Not
totally unlike a TS zero clearance insert in function.
So she called on me to make one. Oddly it only took me two trips to
measure and tweak the fit of the insert. I made it out of 1/2" Baltic
birch and routed a rabbet around the bottom perimeter to mate with the
similar lip on the sewing desk.


Typically this 1/4" x 12 ish x 24 ish accessory insert sells for an
additional $200.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...posted-public/

Nice, and I'm sure a nice fit, also. *I suspect not, but might there be some consideration for making 50 of them, real quick & inexpensively, and advertising to others with this type of machine, i.e., trump the manufacturer with a preferred, better product?

Sonny

Sonny writes:
On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 11:29:59 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
I can literally hop up on=20
the bench and not a creek is heard. IIRC Nailshooter saw a 1/8"=20
deflection, in the middle with me on top, between the two halves over=20
the 8 foot length.

A little less rice & gravy and meat & potatoes might solve that issue.

And one last and really nothing special piece. One of my customers is a=
=20
big time quilter. She has one of those specialty sewing desks with a=20
remote controlled sewing machine lift. These faux wood desks are made=20
out of particle board with a plastic veneer covering. These desks are=
=20
also shockingly expensive as are their accessories.

The tables for my sewing machines are made of particle board, also. You w=
ould think they would be of better quality lumber. Over time, from oiling =
the machines, the particle board swells and deteriorates in places.
=20
Anyway she bought a new Pfaff sewing machine and the insert that fits=20
the machine like a glove was not available for her sewing desk. Not=20
totally unlike a TS zero clearance insert in function.
So she called on me to make one. Oddly it only took me two trips to=20
measure and tweak the fit of the insert. I made it out of 1/2" Baltic=20
birch and routed a rabbet around the bottom perimeter to mate with the=20
similar lip on the sewing desk.
=20
=20
Typically this 1/4" x 12 ish x 24 ish accessory insert sells for an=20
additional $200.
=20
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...posted-public/

Nice, and I'm sure a nice fit, also. *I suspect not, but might there be s=
ome consideration for making 50 of them, real quick & inexpensively, and ad=
vertising to others with this type of machine, i.e., trump the manufacturer=
with a preferred, better product?

Factor in setup costs, materials costs, time costs, profit and you'd end up charging
$200 each anyway.

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 4:15:33 PM UTC-5, Scott Lurndal wrote:


Factor in setup costs, materials costs, time costs, profit and you'd end up charging
$200 each anyway.

Yeah, and on second thought, it might infringe on a patent of the insert.

Sonny

On 4/17/2018 4:12 PM, Sonny wrote:
On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 11:29:59 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
I can literally hop up on
the bench and not a creek is heard. IIRC Nailshooter saw a 1/8"
deflection, in the middle with me on top, between the two halves over
the 8 foot length.

A little less rice & gravy and meat & potatoes might solve that issue.

And one last and really nothing special piece. One of my customers is a
big time quilter. She has one of those specialty sewing desks with a
remote controlled sewing machine lift. These faux wood desks are made
out of particle board with a plastic veneer covering. These desks are
also shockingly expensive as are their accessories.

The tables for my sewing machines are made of particle board, also. You would think they would be of better quality lumber. Over time, from oiling the machines, the particle board swells and deteriorates in places.

Anyway she bought a new Pfaff sewing machine and the insert that fits
the machine like a glove was not available for her sewing desk. Not
totally unlike a TS zero clearance insert in function.
So she called on me to make one. Oddly it only took me two trips to
measure and tweak the fit of the insert. I made it out of 1/2" Baltic
birch and routed a rabbet around the bottom perimeter to mate with the
similar lip on the sewing desk.


Typically this 1/4" x 12 ish x 24 ish accessory insert sells for an
additional $200.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...posted-public/

Nice, and I'm sure a nice fit, also. *I suspect not, but might there be some consideration for making 50 of them, real quick & inexpensively, and advertising to others with this type of machine, i.e., trump the manufacturer with a preferred, better product?

Sonny


Thank you.

I have thought about the insert but it is hardley worth doing if I
having to go to each customer make a template. I could buy the
templates and copy them but that would be $200 for each to be copied...

Then there are the umpteen different type and brand sewing tables that
would have to be considered.

I think I would rather design and build no nonsense sewing table/desks
and include the fitting of the template in the price.

IIRC the average price of these desks are in the $5K range.

On 4/17/2018 4:15 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Sonny writes:
On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 11:29:59 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
I can literally hop up on=20
the bench and not a creek is heard. IIRC Nailshooter saw a 1/8"=20
deflection, in the middle with me on top, between the two halves over=20
the 8 foot length.

A little less rice & gravy and meat & potatoes might solve that issue.

And one last and really nothing special piece. One of my customers is a=
=20
big time quilter. She has one of those specialty sewing desks with a=20
remote controlled sewing machine lift. These faux wood desks are made=20
out of particle board with a plastic veneer covering. These desks are=
=20
also shockingly expensive as are their accessories.

The tables for my sewing machines are made of particle board, also. You w=
ould think they would be of better quality lumber. Over time, from oiling =
the machines, the particle board swells and deteriorates in places.
=20
Anyway she bought a new Pfaff sewing machine and the insert that fits=20
the machine like a glove was not available for her sewing desk. Not=20
totally unlike a TS zero clearance insert in function.
So she called on me to make one. Oddly it only took me two trips to=20
measure and tweak the fit of the insert. I made it out of 1/2" Baltic=20
birch and routed a rabbet around the bottom perimeter to mate with the=20
similar lip on the sewing desk.
=20
=20
Typically this 1/4" x 12 ish x 24 ish accessory insert sells for an=20
additional $200.
=20
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...posted-public/

Nice, and I'm sure a nice fit, also. *I suspect not, but might there be s=
ome consideration for making 50 of them, real quick & inexpensively, and ad=
vertising to others with this type of machine, i.e., trump the manufacturer=
with a preferred, better product?

Factor in setup costs, materials costs, time costs, profit and you'd end up charging
$200 each anyway.

Absolutely!!!! That is what I charged and I would not want to do it for
a one time customer, unless I sold the desk also.

MORE than anything "time" is the big factor. The cost of materials like
I built about $3. Three trips, 60 miles of driving, one to measure,
second to test fit and check where it needs to be tweaked, the third to
deliver. AND there is beveling by sander on the bottom sides to match
the contour of the machine surfaces.....another reason for the second
trip. LOL.

BUT I did deliver a superior product, I used $3 worth of materials vs.
50 cents worth of materials like the manufacturer uses.

Oddly, even the manufacturer did not offer the insert yet....