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Anybody use a Roomba in the workshop?
Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 8/6/2017 9:21 AM, Spalted Walt wrote: -MIKE- wrote: On 8/5/17 4:23 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 8/5/2017 3:20 PM, -MIKE- wrote: http://www.homedepot.com/p/ZEP-50-lb...EP50/202056504 Wow, that's a new one on me! I never knew such a thing existed. I've used similar things for oil and spilled paint, but I never imagined something like that for dust. 50# will last a very long time. You just sprinkle a little and it all works as you sweep along. It is sort of like oild sawdust. I think I'll pick some up. I wonder if it works on wood floors. They seem to be contradicting themselves on their website. http://www.zepcommercial.com/product/Sweeping-Compound From the column on the right: "SDS & PRO TIPS" Pro Tips This product is safe for both hard and soft flooring. --- From the column on the right: "Questions & Answers" Questions And Answers Can you use it on finished hardwood floors Answers Thank you for contacting us. We do not recommend applying this product to hardwood floors. We hope this helps. If you have any additional questions, feel free to contact us. Sincerely, Zep Commercial | Consumer Relations Department 2 years, 6 months ago ZepRepresentative I'm surprised at that. I can show you a 20,000 sq ft warehouse where it has been used for years with no ill effects. Unless they mean unfinished wood. I can see that as it does have some sort of oil in it. +1 - That's it. http://www.zepcommercial.com/product/Sweeping-Compound Questions And Answers Can I use it on plywood floors Answers I wouldn't recommend using it on plywood because it's an oil-based formula. It's recommended use is on: cement, concrete, marble and other floors in warehouses, factories, shop areas and garages. Thank You, Zep Commercial 3 years, 6 months ago ZepRepresentative |
Anybody use a Roomba in the workshop?
On 8/5/2017 6:50 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 12:27:21 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 8/5/2017 11:23 AM, wrote: On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 10:58:11 -0500, Unquestionably Confused wrote: On 8/5/2017 10:46 AM, -MIKE- wrote: On 8/4/17 10:12 PM, Doug Miller wrote: wrote in : [snip] so on. I'm wondering how well Roomba would do with the fine dust that escapes my air filter too, and settles out of the air hours later, or with the stuff that I miss with the broom. It would work great for that, if you didn't move stuff around a lot. Unfortunately, they are easily confused. How so, Mike? I don't own one but I always thought they cleaned in a randomized pattern - just take off and go until they sense/touch and object and then alter course until the next obstruction. No, they learn the area. That strictly depends on the particular Roomba model that you get. Only the high end models have the mapping feature all others currently are random. That's what I was told buy the guy who used to design 'em. Perhaps iRobot only designed the "smart" ones (the rest coming from China). I am on my 3rd Roomba robot. The Roomba's learning and mapping the room is a very recent development and still only offered on the top end model. This feature was not available from iRobot until relatively recently. Other brand robots did indeed map the rooms, Neato Vac's for example. |
Anybody use a Roomba in the workshop?
On 8/5/2017 3:33 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 03:12:54 -0000 (UTC), Doug Miller wrote: wrote in : On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 02:44:18 -0000 (UTC), Doug Miller wrote: Any of you guys use a Roomba (or other robot vacuum cleaner) to keep your shop floor clean? Just wondering if it works... Only if the shop floor is clean - - - OK, I guess maybe I should elaborate. I plan on using a broom to deal with the largest stuff, the jointer shavings and the sawdust that escapes the dust collector, the handplane shavings, and so on. I'm wondering how well Roomba would do with the fine dust that escapes my air filter too, and settles out of the air hours later, or with the stuff that I miss with the broom. From my experience (short term) with one in the house, I'd say you will be dissapointed. It will plug the filter in no-time, as well as fill the tiny dirt cup. Terribly ovepriced toys. The early ones still had bugs. The first we bought was in 2008 and it was the top of the lone Roomba, IIRC a 570 series. I had a lot of trouble with it, especially with the gears in the brush assembly. iRobot sent me 2 replacement gear boxes and brushes within the first year. As they came out with newer models I learned that you could buy the new model parts for the model I had and the unit became quite useful. It lasted 5 years vacuuming our whole house 5 days a week. When I replaced it I got a 700 series unit with a $100 discount from iRobot. It was absolutely trouble free for 4 years. I picked it up to clean it about 3 months ago and the handle broke. iRobot does not sell a replacement handle and with a couple of e-mails back and forth they sent me a brand new replacement. I only had to pay for shipping to return the broken one. My wife are extremely happy with the Roombas especially sense the first two vacuumed our home more than 2,000 times in the past 9 years. And we have never used our conventional vac, to vacuum the floors, since getting the first Roomba. We keep it to vac our 9 ceiling fans. |
Anybody use a Roomba in the workshop?
On 8/5/2017 11:14 PM, John Grossbohlin wrote:
"Leon" wrote in message ... It will get that dust you are talking about. The upper end models have Hepa filters although not Hepa certified. Ours sucks up enough dog hair and dust to build a new dog every couple of weeks. In my case it would have to suck up the dog to stay ahead of the hair. English Setter... his white hair forms "snow drifts" in a matter of days... ;~) We had that problem too, before the Great Dane it was the Choc Lab. I'll tell you I have to empty the bin after each run and I do a thorough cleaning of the robot on a weekly basis but I spend about 10-15 minutes doing all of that every week. Beats the heck of doing the vacuuming my self 5 times a week. |
Anybody use a Roomba in the workshop?
On 8/5/2017 1:54 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 8/5/17 1:21 PM, John McGaw wrote: On 8/4/2017 10:44 PM, Doug Miller wrote: Any of you guys use a Roomba (or other robot vacuum cleaner) to keep your shop floor clean? Just wondering if it works... The best answer is "The company thought of that and made a product for cleaning shops and it was a total bust so it was dropped." https://www.amazon.com/iRobot-110-Di...ct_top?ie=UTF8 Shops are not meant to be _totally_ clean. If your shop is immaculate then you aren't using it right. I get what you're saying, John, and agree with the premise. However, any time I do finishing, I sure wish my shop was "immaculate" because it would save me a whole lot of time knocking the fuzz off between coats. There are air cleaners for the airborne stuff and I see a place for something that would capture all that stuff on the floor before it gets airborne. FWIW I quit worrying about dust about 25 years ago when I switched to using gel varnishes. Dust is not an issue. |
Anybody use a Roomba in the workshop?
On 8/5/2017 2:20 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 8/5/17 2:12 PM, John McGaw wrote: On 8/5/2017 2:54 PM, -MIKE- wrote: On 8/5/17 1:21 PM, John McGaw wrote: On 8/4/2017 10:44 PM, Doug Miller wrote: Any of you guys use a Roomba (or other robot vacuum cleaner) to keep your shop floor clean? Just wondering if it works... The best answer is "The company thought of that and made a product for cleaning shops and it was a total bust so it was dropped." https://www.amazon.com/iRobot-110-Di...ct_top?ie=UTF8 Shops are not meant to be _totally_ clean. If your shop is immaculate then you aren't using it right. I get what you're saying, John, and agree with the premise. However, any time I do finishing, I sure wish my shop was "immaculate" because it would save me a whole lot of time knocking the fuzz off between coats. There are air cleaners for the airborne stuff and I see a place for something that would capture all that stuff on the floor before it gets airborne. Something along these lines works beautifully in removing fine dust from floors. I always find that, if you don't have a dedicated finishing area, cleaning up as best you can, waiting a couple of hours, and then proceeding carefully so as not to raise any remaining dust works best. This also means turning off any 'dust filters', fans, heaters, or air conditioners since each of these will sabotage your efforts to get dust out of the air. That can make things pretty uncomfortable for a while depending on season and your shop. http://www.homedepot.com/p/ZEP-50-lb...EP50/202056504 Wow, that's a new one on me! I never knew such a thing existed. I've used similar things for oil and spilled paint, but I never imagined something like that for dust. When I was kid the grocery store in the small town that my grandmother lived in used a similar product on their wooden floors. It was red in color and had an oily feel when fresh. The oil attracts the dust much like a dust mop does. |
Anybody use a Roomba in the workshop?
On 8/5/2017 9:18 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 8/5/17 4:23 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 8/5/2017 3:20 PM, -MIKE- wrote: http://www.homedepot.com/p/ZEP-50-lb...EP50/202056504 Wow, that's a new one on me! I never knew such a thing existed. I've used similar things for oil and spilled paint, but I never imagined something like that for dust. 50# will last a very long time. You just sprinkle a little and it all works as you sweep along. It is sort of like oild sawdust. I think I'll pick some up. I wonder if it works on wood floors. Absolutely. See my previous post about the old grocery store. ;~) |
Anybody use a Roomba in the workshop?
On Sun, 6 Aug 2017 13:02:52 -0400, "J. Clarke"
wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 06 Aug 2017 13:21:06 +0000, Spalted Walt wrote: -MIKE- wrote: On 8/5/17 4:23 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 8/5/2017 3:20 PM, -MIKE- wrote: http://www.homedepot.com/p/ZEP-50-lb...EP50/202056504 Wow, that's a new one on me! I never knew such a thing existed. I've used similar things for oil and spilled paint, but I never imagined something like that for dust. 50# will last a very long time. You just sprinkle a little and it all works as you sweep along. It is sort of like oild sawdust. I think I'll pick some up. I wonder if it works on wood floors. They seem to be contradicting themselves on their website. http://www.zepcommercial.com/product/Sweeping-Compound From the column on the right: "SDS & PRO TIPS" Pro Tips This product is safe for both hard and soft flooring. --- From the column on the right: "Questions & Answers" Questions And Answers Can you use it on finished hardwood floors Answers Thank you for contacting us. We do not recommend applying this product to hardwood floors. We hope this helps. If you have any additional questions, feel free to contact us. Sincerely, Zep Commercial | Consumer Relations Department 2 years, 6 months ago ZepRepresentative Interestingly enough, DustBane Corp, who first mareketted the stuff, no longer even lists it as one of their products ---- I guess too many imitators made it unprofitable for them??? There's oil-based and wax-based and it also comes sanded and non-sanded. Not clear what Zep sells. For wood I believe you want non-sanded wax- based. The latest is vegatable based - I believe it contains canola meal (which still has some canola oil in it) |
Anybody use a Roomba in the workshop?
On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 21:53:00 -0500, -MIKE-
wrote: On 8/5/17 9:36 PM, Unquestionably Confused wrote: On 8/5/2017 9:18 PM, -MIKE- wrote: On 8/5/17 4:23 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 8/5/2017 3:20 PM, -MIKE- wrote: http://www.homedepot.com/p/ZEP-50-lb...EP50/202056504 Wow, that's a new one on me! I never knew such a thing existed. I've used similar things for oil and spilled paint, but I never imagined something like that for dust. 50# will last a very long time. You just sprinkle a little and it all works as you sweep along. It is sort of like oild sawdust. I think I'll pick some up. I wonder if it works on wood floors. Works on any floor type, Mike. Most that I've seen has a red dye in it so you can see it on the floor. As others have said, a little goes a long way. Not only does the oily consistency (not enough to smear) pick up the dust, it prevents it from becoming airborne. Others have attested to its vintage. I first recall seeing my father using it in our basement ca 1953 and he was hardly an innovator. ;-) I'm getting some, that settles it. :-) That's it's purpose, evidently. I'm going to try it too. My garage is a disaster (though one side being full of Hardi-Plank isn't going to make it any easier to clean). |
Anybody use a Roomba in the workshop?
Zombie post, but I was Googling this subject out of curiosity. The answer is yes, absolutely. I've been using a Roomba 960 as my overworked, much-abused and utterly stalwart shop-sawdust helper for 3 years. It fills up fast and sometimes chokes on nails and wood scraps but keeps on chugging. I use it in combo with a large shop vac connected to table saw dust port + overhead shop air filter. Roomba can't clean up huge piles of sawdust but is always scurrying around my feet keeping it under control. Emptying bin now and then way easier than shop-vaccing whole floor. Plus you can set schedule so it cleans dust every day as it settles. Recommend the newer self-emptying models so you don't have to dump the bin so often.
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Anybody use a Roomba in the workshop?
Patrick Denker wrote:
Zombie post, but I was Googling this subject out of curiosity. The answer is yes, absolutely. I've been using a Roomba 960 as my overworked, much-abused and utterly stalwart shop-sawdust helper for 3 years. It fills up fast and sometimes chokes on nails and wood scraps but keeps on chugging. I use it in combo with a large shop vac connected to table saw dust port + overhead shop air filter. Roomba can't clean up huge piles of sawdust but is always scurrying around my feet keeping it under control. Emptying bin now and then way easier than shop-vaccing whole floor. Plus you can set schedule so it cleans dust every day as it settles. Recommend the newer self-emptying models so you don't have to dump the bin so often. If I had $600+ to throw around I would probably hire my part time yard guy To vacuum the shop. He charges $15/hr. I vacuum it for free. -- G Ross |
Anybody use a Roomba in the workshop?
On 6/5/2021 4:01 PM, Patrick Denker wrote:
Zombie post, but I was Googling this subject out of curiosity. The answer is yes, absolutely. I've been using a Roomba 960 as my overworked, much-abused and utterly stalwart shop-sawdust helper for 3 years. It fills up fast and sometimes chokes on nails and wood scraps but keeps on chugging. I use it in combo with a large shop vac connected to table saw dust port + overhead shop air filter. Roomba can't clean up huge piles of sawdust but is always scurrying around my feet keeping it under control. Emptying bin now and then way easier than shop-vaccing whole floor. Plus you can set schedule so it cleans dust every day as it settles. Recommend the newer self-emptying models so you don't have to dump the bin so often. We have had a Roomba since 2008. And we will likely always have one. If I ran a Roomba in my shop I would not get anything done between emptying the bin and waiting on it to get out of the way. With that said, self cleaning to empty the bin may work but not as quickly as simply sweeping or blowing the dust out. |
Anybody use a Roomba in the workshop?
On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 12:51:24 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:
On 6/5/2021 4:01 PM, Patrick Denker wrote: Zombie post, but I was Googling this subject out of curiosity. The answer is yes, absolutely. I've been using a Roomba 960 as my overworked, much-abused and utterly stalwart shop-sawdust helper for 3 years. It fills up fast and sometimes chokes on nails and wood scraps but keeps on chugging. I use it in combo with a large shop vac connected to table saw dust port + overhead shop air filter. Roomba can't clean up huge piles of sawdust but is always scurrying around my feet keeping it under control. Emptying bin now and then way easier than shop-vaccing whole floor. Plus you can set schedule so it cleans dust every day as it settles. Recommend the newer self-emptying models so you don't have to dump the bin so often. We have had a Roomba since 2008. And we will likely always have one. If I ran a Roomba in my shop I would not get anything done between emptying the bin and waiting on it to get out of the way. With that said, self cleaning to empty the bin may work but not as quickly as simply sweeping or blowing the dust out. Don't feed the trolls. |
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Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote in
: We have had a Roomba since 2008. And we will likely always have one. If I ran a Roomba in my shop I would not get anything done between emptying the bin and waiting on it to get out of the way. With that said, self cleaning to empty the bin may work but not as quickly as simply sweeping or blowing the dust out. My biggest complaint about the Roomba is that it will "effectively" rearrange the room. You'll keep the room in the way the Roomba wants so it can run, clean, and get back to base. Small price to pay, though, for not having to run that noisy distuned wrist-twister vacuum. (Feins are better, but they still suck.) Puckdropper |
Anybody use a Roomba in the workshop?
On Monday, June 7, 2021 at 12:51:32 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 6/5/2021 4:01 PM, Patrick Denker wrote: Zombie post, but I was Googling this subject out of curiosity. The answer is yes, absolutely. I've been using a Roomba 960 as my overworked, much-abused and utterly stalwart shop-sawdust helper for 3 years. It fills up fast and sometimes chokes on nails and wood scraps but keeps on chugging. I use it in combo with a large shop vac connected to table saw dust port + overhead shop air filter. Roomba can't clean up huge piles of sawdust but is always scurrying around my feet keeping it under control. Emptying bin now and then way easier than shop-vaccing whole floor. Plus you can set schedule so it cleans dust every day as it settles. Recommend the newer self-emptying models so you don't have to dump the bin so often. We have had a Roomba since 2008. And we will likely always have one. If I ran a Roomba in my shop I would not get anything done between emptying the bin and waiting on it to get out of the way. With that said, self cleaning to empty the bin may work but not as quickly as simply sweeping or blowing the dust out. We got our first roomba about a month ago, a model 8+ from Costco. It has the built-in vaccuum in the base that automatically cleans the Roomba bin when it docks. It's working well. I am still figuring out the mapping and setting up the clean zones and barrier zones. I think we will be happy with it, but I am not getting rid of our Kirby Vacuum cleaner. It does the industrial clean. The Roomba is a maintainer. |
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On 6/7/2021 2:42 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote in : We have had a Roomba since 2008. And we will likely always have one. If I ran a Roomba in my shop I would not get anything done between emptying the bin and waiting on it to get out of the way. With that said, self cleaning to empty the bin may work but not as quickly as simply sweeping or blowing the dust out. My biggest complaint about the Roomba is that it will "effectively" rearrange the room. You'll keep the room in the way the Roomba wants so it can run, clean, and get back to base. Build heavier furniture. We have an i7 so it does not move much furniture, except for a certain step stool. ;~) Small price to pay, though, for not having to run that noisy distuned wrist-twister vacuum. (Feins are better, but they still suck.) Exactly! Puckdropper |
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On 6/7/2021 5:53 PM, Bob D wrote:
On Monday, June 7, 2021 at 12:51:32 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote: On 6/5/2021 4:01 PM, Patrick Denker wrote: Zombie post, but I was Googling this subject out of curiosity. The answer is yes, absolutely. I've been using a Roomba 960 as my overworked, much-abused and utterly stalwart shop-sawdust helper for 3 years. It fills up fast and sometimes chokes on nails and wood scraps but keeps on chugging. I use it in combo with a large shop vac connected to table saw dust port + overhead shop air filter. Roomba can't clean up huge piles of sawdust but is always scurrying around my feet keeping it under control. Emptying bin now and then way easier than shop-vaccing whole floor. Plus you can set schedule so it cleans dust every day as it settles. Recommend the newer self-emptying models so you don't have to dump the bin so often. We have had a Roomba since 2008. And we will likely always have one. If I ran a Roomba in my shop I would not get anything done between emptying the bin and waiting on it to get out of the way. With that said, self cleaning to empty the bin may work but not as quickly as simply sweeping or blowing the dust out. We got our first roomba about a month ago, a model 8+ from Costco. It has the built-in vaccuum in the base that automatically cleans the Roomba bin when it docks. It's working well. I am still figuring out the mapping and setting up the clean zones and barrier zones. I think we will be happy with it, but I am not getting rid of our Kirby Vacuum cleaner. It does the industrial clean. The Roomba is a maintainer. You being new with the Roomba, I would advise that you take it to the shop/garage and clean it weekly. I pull the sweepers, rotating ball wheel, side 3 prong sweeper, and dust bin out. I blow the vacuumm and the dust bin out and then witrh a damp microfiber towel wipe the entire under side and front bumpers. ALSO wipe the 3 prong brush clean. Especially wipe the front bumper and the 3 prong brush. If left dirty they will leave/transfer dirt lines on your base boards. I have been doing this for the past 13 years and seems to keep things cleaner. We still have our pro vac too, but it pretty much only gets used with the hose and wand to do the ceiling fan blades. And we only have hard floors, no carpet or rugs. |
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On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 12:44:37 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
On 6/7/2021 5:53 PM, Bob D wrote: On Monday, June 7, 2021 at 12:51:32 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote: On 6/5/2021 4:01 PM, Patrick Denker wrote: Zombie post, but I was Googling this subject out of curiosity. The answer is yes, absolutely. I've been using a Roomba 960 as my overworked, much-abused and utterly stalwart shop-sawdust helper for 3 years. It fills up fast and sometimes chokes on nails and wood scraps but keeps on chugging. I use it in combo with a large shop vac connected to table saw dust port + overhead shop air filter. Roomba can't clean up huge piles of sawdust but is always scurrying around my feet keeping it under control. Emptying bin now and then way easier than shop-vaccing whole floor. Plus you can set schedule so it cleans dust every day as it settles. Recommend the newer self-emptying models so you don't have to dump the bin so often. We have had a Roomba since 2008. And we will likely always have one. If I ran a Roomba in my shop I would not get anything done between emptying the bin and waiting on it to get out of the way. With that said, self cleaning to empty the bin may work but not as quickly as simply sweeping or blowing the dust out. We got our first roomba about a month ago, a model 8+ from Costco. It has the built-in vaccuum in the base that automatically cleans the Roomba bin when it docks. It's working well. I am still figuring out the mapping and setting up the clean zones and barrier zones. I think we will be happy with it, but I am not getting rid of our Kirby Vacuum cleaner. It does the industrial clean. The Roomba is a maintainer. You being new with the Roomba, I would advise that you take it to the shop/garage and clean it weekly. I pull the sweepers, rotating ball wheel, side 3 prong sweeper, and dust bin out. I blow the vacuumm and the dust bin out and then witrh a damp microfiber towel wipe the entire under side and front bumpers. ALSO wipe the 3 prong brush clean. Especially wipe the front bumper and the 3 prong brush. If left dirty they will leave/transfer dirt lines on your base boards. I have been doing this for the past 13 years and seems to keep things cleaner. We still have our pro vac too, but it pretty much only gets used with the hose and wand to do the ceiling fan blades. And we only have hard floors, no carpet or rugs. I think that your final statement is key. I can't imagine that even the best made autonomous robotic vacuum cleaner could clean a carpet as well as it needs to be cleaned. Only a quality upright has the weight, power and brush configuration to remove the dirt at base of the carpet fibers. While the *surface* of the carpet might look clean after using a robotic vacuum, the sand and dirt particles are still doing their damage. When the abrasive dirt - especially sand - settles into the pile and then gets walked on, it abrades the fibers. Eventually the carpet begins to look thin, dull and flat. Carpet doesn't just wear directly because people walk on it, it also wears - thins out - because the base of the fibers are being cut by embedded dirt. As Bob D said: "The Roomba is a maintainer." Tossing your quality, yet unwieldy upright is a really bad idea. Depending on how much traffic a carpet sees and how dirty the overall environment is, a deep vacuuming should be done at least once a week if you want your carpets to last - not just *look* clean. |
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On 6/8/2021 12:50 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 12:44:37 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote: On 6/7/2021 5:53 PM, Bob D wrote: On Monday, June 7, 2021 at 12:51:32 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote: On 6/5/2021 4:01 PM, Patrick Denker wrote: Zombie post, but I was Googling this subject out of curiosity. The answer is yes, absolutely. I've been using a Roomba 960 as my overworked, much-abused and utterly stalwart shop-sawdust helper for 3 years. It fills up fast and sometimes chokes on nails and wood scraps but keeps on chugging. I use it in combo with a large shop vac connected to table saw dust port + overhead shop air filter. Roomba can't clean up huge piles of sawdust but is always scurrying around my feet keeping it under control. Emptying bin now and then way easier than shop-vaccing whole floor. Plus you can set schedule so it cleans dust every day as it settles. Recommend the newer self-emptying models so you don't have to dump the bin so often. We have had a Roomba since 2008. And we will likely always have one. If I ran a Roomba in my shop I would not get anything done between emptying the bin and waiting on it to get out of the way. With that said, self cleaning to empty the bin may work but not as quickly as simply sweeping or blowing the dust out. We got our first roomba about a month ago, a model 8+ from Costco. It has the built-in vaccuum in the base that automatically cleans the Roomba bin when it docks. It's working well. I am still figuring out the mapping and setting up the clean zones and barrier zones. I think we will be happy with it, but I am not getting rid of our Kirby Vacuum cleaner. It does the industrial clean. The Roomba is a maintainer. You being new with the Roomba, I would advise that you take it to the shop/garage and clean it weekly. I pull the sweepers, rotating ball wheel, side 3 prong sweeper, and dust bin out. I blow the vacuumm and the dust bin out and then witrh a damp microfiber towel wipe the entire under side and front bumpers. ALSO wipe the 3 prong brush clean. Especially wipe the front bumper and the 3 prong brush. If left dirty they will leave/transfer dirt lines on your base boards. I have been doing this for the past 13 years and seems to keep things cleaner. We still have our pro vac too, but it pretty much only gets used with the hose and wand to do the ceiling fan blades. And we only have hard floors, no carpet or rugs. I think that your final statement is key. There is that. but if you think a regular vacuum/Kirby, Ricar, what ever brand, will get all the dirt out, that is not going to happen. I can't imagine that even the best made autonomous robotic vacuum cleaner could clean a carpet as well as it needs to be cleaned. Only a quality upright has the weight, power and brush configuration to remove the dirt at base of the carpet fibers. The regular vacuum cleaner is only going to remove the dirt in the carpet. They do not remove dirt that has made it to the padding and or past the padding. While an upright may do a better job as a robot vac, it is not going to get all the dirt. And something else to consider. Our robot vac runs 5 days a week. It may very well do a better job than a regular vac that is only run weekly. The robot vac can get dirt before it gets under the carpet. One other thing, because we run our robot vac 5 days a week we see a significant reduction in over all dust that settles on everything. Before our robot vac we dusted our ceiling fans almost monthly. Now 3~4 times a year. Food for thought. While the *surface* of the carpet might look clean after using a robotic vacuum, the sand and dirt particles are still doing their damage. When the abrasive dirt - especially sand - settles into the pile and then gets walked on, it abrades the fibers. Eventually the carpet begins to look thin, dull and flat. Carpet doesn't just wear directly because people walk on it, it also wears - thins out - because the base of the fibers are being cut by embedded dirt. As Bob D said: "The Roomba is a maintainer." Tossing your quality, yet unwieldy upright is a really bad idea. Depending on how much traffic a carpet sees and how dirty the overall environment is, a deep vacuuming should be done at least once a week if you want your carpets to last - not just *look* clean. |
Anybody use a Roomba in the workshop?
On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 3:04:21 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
On 6/8/2021 12:50 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 12:44:37 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote: On 6/7/2021 5:53 PM, Bob D wrote: On Monday, June 7, 2021 at 12:51:32 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote: On 6/5/2021 4:01 PM, Patrick Denker wrote: Zombie post, but I was Googling this subject out of curiosity. The answer is yes, absolutely. I've been using a Roomba 960 as my overworked, much-abused and utterly stalwart shop-sawdust helper for 3 years. It fills up fast and sometimes chokes on nails and wood scraps but keeps on chugging. I use it in combo with a large shop vac connected to table saw dust port + overhead shop air filter. Roomba can't clean up huge piles of sawdust but is always scurrying around my feet keeping it under control. Emptying bin now and then way easier than shop-vaccing whole floor. Plus you can set schedule so it cleans dust every day as it settles. Recommend the newer self-emptying models so you don't have to dump the bin so often. We have had a Roomba since 2008. And we will likely always have one. If I ran a Roomba in my shop I would not get anything done between emptying the bin and waiting on it to get out of the way. With that said, self cleaning to empty the bin may work but not as quickly as simply sweeping or blowing the dust out. We got our first roomba about a month ago, a model 8+ from Costco. It has the built-in vaccuum in the base that automatically cleans the Roomba bin when it docks. It's working well. I am still figuring out the mapping and setting up the clean zones and barrier zones. I think we will be happy with it, but I am not getting rid of our Kirby Vacuum cleaner. It does the industrial clean. The Roomba is a maintainer. You being new with the Roomba, I would advise that you take it to the shop/garage and clean it weekly. I pull the sweepers, rotating ball wheel, side 3 prong sweeper, and dust bin out. I blow the vacuumm and the dust bin out and then witrh a damp microfiber towel wipe the entire under side and front bumpers. ALSO wipe the 3 prong brush clean. Especially wipe the front bumper and the 3 prong brush. If left dirty they will leave/transfer dirt lines on your base boards. I have been doing this for the past 13 years and seems to keep things cleaner. We still have our pro vac too, but it pretty much only gets used with the hose and wand to do the ceiling fan blades. And we only have hard floors, no carpet or rugs. I think that your final statement is key. There is that. but if you think a regular vacuum/Kirby, Ricar, what ever brand, will get all the dirt out, that is not going to happen. Never said - or even thought - that. I can't imagine that even the best made autonomous robotic vacuum cleaner could clean a carpet as well as it needs to be cleaned. Only a quality upright has the weight, power and brush configuration to remove the dirt at base of the carpet fibers. The regular vacuum cleaner is only going to remove the dirt in the carpet. They do not remove dirt that has made it to the padding and or past the padding. While an upright may do a better job as a robot vac, it is not going to get all the dirt. I used the words "base of the carpet fibers" meaning the area at the primary backing. I certainly don't expect any consumer level vacuum to suck dirt from below the primary or secondary backing (or unitary backing, if that is how the carpet was constructed). I'm not even expecting a consumer vacuum to get *all* of the dirt out, just a lot more than any robot vacuum. The more that can be removed, the less abrasion of the fibers that will occur. I'm as concerned about my carpet looking good, not just clean, for as long as possible. And something else to consider. Our robot vac runs 5 days a week. It may very well do a better job than a regular vac that is only run weekly. The robot vac can get dirt before it gets under the carpet. Said the guy that doesn't have any carpets. ;-) I would imagine that it doesn't take long for dirt and sand to get to the base of the fibers. Gravity sucks, you know. While a daily maintenance run of the robot will certainly help, I'll wager that you'd be hard pressed to find a robot vacuum listed as a "recommended vacuum" by any of the major carpet manufacturers - some of which even hint at a daily vacuuming in certain situations. In fact, the Carpet and Rug Institute has certified only one robotic vacuum (out of 314 certifications) and it's not going to work in the average living room. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jFcI9c6sNI One other thing, because we run our robot vac 5 days a week we see a significant reduction in over all dust that settles on everything. Before our robot vac we dusted our ceiling fans almost monthly. Now 3~4 times a year. No doubt. Food for thought. My thoughts haven't changed: When it come to carpets, robotic vacuums have their place as an appearance maintainer but not as an overall replacement for a quality upright or power-brush canister/whole-house system. Not if you want your carpet to last as long as possible. While the *surface* of the carpet might look clean after using a robotic vacuum, the sand and dirt particles are still doing their damage. When the abrasive dirt - especially sand - settles into the pile and then gets walked on, it abrades the fibers. Eventually the carpet begins to look thin, dull and flat. Carpet doesn't just wear directly because people walk on it, it also wears - thins out - because the base of the fibers are being cut by embedded dirt. As Bob D said: "The Roomba is a maintainer." Tossing your quality, yet unwieldy upright is a really bad idea. Depending on how much traffic a carpet sees and how dirty the overall environment is, a deep vacuuming should be done at least once a week if you want your carpets to last - not just *look* clean. |
Anybody use a Roomba in the workshop?
On 6/8/2021 5:52 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 3:04:21 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote: On 6/8/2021 12:50 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 12:44:37 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote: On 6/7/2021 5:53 PM, Bob D wrote: On Monday, June 7, 2021 at 12:51:32 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote: On 6/5/2021 4:01 PM, Patrick Denker wrote: Zombie post, but I was Googling this subject out of curiosity. The answer is yes, absolutely. I've been using a Roomba 960 as my overworked, much-abused and utterly stalwart shop-sawdust helper for 3 years. It fills up fast and sometimes chokes on nails and wood scraps but keeps on chugging. I use it in combo with a large shop vac connected to table saw dust port + overhead shop air filter. Roomba can't clean up huge piles of sawdust but is always scurrying around my feet keeping it under control. Emptying bin now and then way easier than shop-vaccing whole floor. Plus you can set schedule so it cleans dust every day as it settles. Recommend the newer self-emptying models so you don't have to dump the bin so often. We have had a Roomba since 2008. And we will likely always have one. If I ran a Roomba in my shop I would not get anything done between emptying the bin and waiting on it to get out of the way. With that said, self cleaning to empty the bin may work but not as quickly as simply sweeping or blowing the dust out. We got our first roomba about a month ago, a model 8+ from Costco. It has the built-in vaccuum in the base that automatically cleans the Roomba bin when it docks. It's working well. I am still figuring out the mapping and setting up the clean zones and barrier zones. I think we will be happy with it, but I am not getting rid of our Kirby Vacuum cleaner. It does the industrial clean. The Roomba is a maintainer. You being new with the Roomba, I would advise that you take it to the shop/garage and clean it weekly. I pull the sweepers, rotating ball wheel, side 3 prong sweeper, and dust bin out. I blow the vacuumm and the dust bin out and then witrh a damp microfiber towel wipe the entire under side and front bumpers. ALSO wipe the 3 prong brush clean. Especially wipe the front bumper and the 3 prong brush. If left dirty they will leave/transfer dirt lines on your base boards. I have been doing this for the past 13 years and seems to keep things cleaner. We still have our pro vac too, but it pretty much only gets used with the hose and wand to do the ceiling fan blades. And we only have hard floors, no carpet or rugs. I think that your final statement is key. There is that. but if you think a regular vacuum/Kirby, Ricar, what ever brand, will get all the dirt out, that is not going to happen. Never said - or even thought - that. I can't imagine that even the best made autonomous robotic vacuum cleaner could clean a carpet as well as it needs to be cleaned. Only a quality upright has the weight, power and brush configuration to remove the dirt at base of the carpet fibers. The regular vacuum cleaner is only going to remove the dirt in the carpet. They do not remove dirt that has made it to the padding and or past the padding. While an upright may do a better job as a robot vac, it is not going to get all the dirt. I used the words "base of the carpet fibers" meaning the area at the primary backing. I certainly don't expect any consumer level vacuum to suck dirt from below the primary or secondary backing (or unitary backing, if that is how the carpet was constructed). I'm not even expecting a consumer vacuum to get *all* of the dirt out, just a lot more than any robot vacuum. The more that can be removed, the less abrasion of the fibers that will occur. I'm as concerned about my carpet looking good, not just clean, for as long as possible. And something else to consider. Our robot vac runs 5 days a week. It may very well do a better job than a regular vac that is only run weekly. The robot vac can get dirt before it gets under the carpet. Said the guy that doesn't have any carpets. ;-) I would imagine that it doesn't take long for dirt and sand to get to the base of the fibers. Gravity sucks, you know. While a daily maintenance run of the robot will certainly help, I'll wager that you'd be hard pressed to find a robot vacuum listed as a "recommended vacuum" by any of the major carpet manufacturers - some of which even hint at a daily vacuuming in certain situations. In fact, the Carpet and Rug Institute has certified only one robotic vacuum (out of 314 certifications) and it's not going to work in the average living room. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jFcI9c6sNI One other thing, because we run our robot vac 5 days a week we see a significant reduction in over all dust that settles on everything. Before our robot vac we dusted our ceiling fans almost monthly. Now 3~4 times a year. No doubt. Food for thought. My thoughts haven't changed: When it come to carpets, robotic vacuums have their place as an appearance maintainer but not as an overall replacement for a quality upright or power-brush canister/whole-house system. Not if you want your carpet to last as long as possible. While the *surface* of the carpet might look clean after using a robotic vacuum, the sand and dirt particles are still doing their damage. When the abrasive dirt - especially sand - settles into the pile and then gets walked on, it abrades the fibers. Eventually the carpet begins to look thin, dull and flat. Carpet doesn't just wear directly because people walk on it, it also wears - thins out - because the base of the fibers are being cut by embedded dirt. As Bob D said: "The Roomba is a maintainer." Tossing your quality, yet unwieldy upright is a really bad idea. Depending on how much traffic a carpet sees and how dirty the overall environment is, a deep vacuuming should be done at least once a week if you want your carpets to last - not just *look* clean. Just a few more thoughts. I agree with a lot of what you say. And because flooring experts indicate that a carpet is not a long term flooring choice, it is an alternative to more expensive hard surface flooring. AND carpet is probably preferred in colder climates and or those that want something soft under their feet. Slightly getting off subject here but.... I have not yet seen a carpet that looks good for an extended period of time. We had carpet up until about 20 years ago and went all tile. We got an average of 10 years out of a carpet and we vacuumed regularly. Where am I going with this? I have to believe that the regular vacuums, with a "beater bar" does damage also. It is after all beating the fibers as the dirt passes through. I do not think that a robot vac will pull more dirt out unless it is used daily, before the dirt has a chance to sink deeper down into the fibers. |
Anybody use a Roomba in the workshop?
On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 8:04:45 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
On 6/8/2021 5:52 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 3:04:21 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote: On 6/8/2021 12:50 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 12:44:37 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote: On 6/7/2021 5:53 PM, Bob D wrote: On Monday, June 7, 2021 at 12:51:32 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote: On 6/5/2021 4:01 PM, Patrick Denker wrote: Zombie post, but I was Googling this subject out of curiosity. The answer is yes, absolutely. I've been using a Roomba 960 as my overworked, much-abused and utterly stalwart shop-sawdust helper for 3 years. It fills up fast and sometimes chokes on nails and wood scraps but keeps on chugging. I use it in combo with a large shop vac connected to table saw dust port + overhead shop air filter. Roomba can't clean up huge piles of sawdust but is always scurrying around my feet keeping it under control. Emptying bin now and then way easier than shop-vaccing whole floor. Plus you can set schedule so it cleans dust every day as it settles. Recommend the newer self-emptying models so you don't have to dump the bin so often. We have had a Roomba since 2008. And we will likely always have one. If I ran a Roomba in my shop I would not get anything done between emptying the bin and waiting on it to get out of the way. With that said, self cleaning to empty the bin may work but not as quickly as simply sweeping or blowing the dust out. We got our first roomba about a month ago, a model 8+ from Costco. It has the built-in vaccuum in the base that automatically cleans the Roomba bin when it docks. It's working well. I am still figuring out the mapping and setting up the clean zones and barrier zones. I think we will be happy with it, but I am not getting rid of our Kirby Vacuum cleaner. It does the industrial clean. The Roomba is a maintainer. You being new with the Roomba, I would advise that you take it to the shop/garage and clean it weekly. I pull the sweepers, rotating ball wheel, side 3 prong sweeper, and dust bin out. I blow the vacuumm and the dust bin out and then witrh a damp microfiber towel wipe the entire under side and front bumpers. ALSO wipe the 3 prong brush clean. Especially wipe the front bumper and the 3 prong brush. If left dirty they will leave/transfer dirt lines on your base boards. I have been doing this for the past 13 years and seems to keep things cleaner. We still have our pro vac too, but it pretty much only gets used with the hose and wand to do the ceiling fan blades. And we only have hard floors, no carpet or rugs. I think that your final statement is key. There is that. but if you think a regular vacuum/Kirby, Ricar, what ever brand, will get all the dirt out, that is not going to happen. Never said - or even thought - that. I can't imagine that even the best made autonomous robotic vacuum cleaner could clean a carpet as well as it needs to be cleaned. Only a quality upright has the weight, power and brush configuration to remove the dirt at base of the carpet fibers. The regular vacuum cleaner is only going to remove the dirt in the carpet. They do not remove dirt that has made it to the padding and or past the padding. While an upright may do a better job as a robot vac, it is not going to get all the dirt. I used the words "base of the carpet fibers" meaning the area at the primary backing. I certainly don't expect any consumer level vacuum to suck dirt from below the primary or secondary backing (or unitary backing, if that is how the carpet was constructed). I'm not even expecting a consumer vacuum to get *all* of the dirt out, just a lot more than any robot vacuum. The more that can be removed, the less abrasion of the fibers that will occur. I'm as concerned about my carpet looking good, not just clean, for as long as possible. And something else to consider. Our robot vac runs 5 days a week. It may very well do a better job than a regular vac that is only run weekly. The robot vac can get dirt before it gets under the carpet. Said the guy that doesn't have any carpets. ;-) I would imagine that it doesn't take long for dirt and sand to get to the base of the fibers. Gravity sucks, you know. While a daily maintenance run of the robot will certainly help, I'll wager that you'd be hard pressed to find a robot vacuum listed as a "recommended vacuum" by any of the major carpet manufacturers - some of which even hint at a daily vacuuming in certain situations. In fact, the Carpet and Rug Institute has certified only one robotic vacuum (out of 314 certifications) and it's not going to work in the average living room. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jFcI9c6sNI One other thing, because we run our robot vac 5 days a week we see a significant reduction in over all dust that settles on everything. Before our robot vac we dusted our ceiling fans almost monthly. Now 3~4 times a year. No doubt. Food for thought. My thoughts haven't changed: When it come to carpets, robotic vacuums have their place as an appearance maintainer but not as an overall replacement for a quality upright or power-brush canister/whole-house system. Not if you want your carpet to last as long as possible. While the *surface* of the carpet might look clean after using a robotic vacuum, the sand and dirt particles are still doing their damage. When the abrasive dirt - especially sand - settles into the pile and then gets walked on, it abrades the fibers. Eventually the carpet begins to look thin, dull and flat. Carpet doesn't just wear directly because people walk on it, it also wears - thins out - because the base of the fibers are being cut by embedded dirt. As Bob D said: "The Roomba is a maintainer." Tossing your quality, yet unwieldy upright is a really bad idea. Depending on how much traffic a carpet sees and how dirty the overall environment is, a deep vacuuming should be done at least once a week if you want your carpets to last - not just *look* clean. Just a few more thoughts. I agree with a lot of what you say. And because flooring experts indicate that a carpet is not a long term flooring choice, it is an alternative to more expensive hard surface flooring. AND carpet is probably preferred in colder climates and or those that want something soft under their feet. Slightly getting off subject here but.... All of that is true and in my case both the colder climate and soft surface are the reasons I prefer carpet. I have hardwood under my carpets. I choose to cover it with something soft. BTW...you left out the noise muffling that carpet provides. I have not yet seen a carpet that looks good for an extended period of time. We had carpet up until about 20 years ago and went all tile. We got an average of 10 years out of a carpet and we vacuumed regularly. It's all relative. "Extended period of time" is an ambiguous phrase. There are different grades of the same carpet and the higher you go, the longer it will last under the same conditions. Besides the basic quality of any specific brand and model, most quality carpets come in 3 face weights, sometimes referred to as Good-Better-Best to keep it simple for the consumer. When we replaced our carpet a couple of years ago we wanted the highest weight available in the high quality carpet we chose. We had to have an installer come out and test our stairs to see if it would work. We wanted a Hollywood style installation where the carpet wraps around the bullnose and then goes straight down the riser as opposed to Waterfall where the carpet just cascades over the edge and down at an angle to the back of the tread. Certain carpets, especially high face weight carpets, can be hard to wrap around the bullnose. Luckily the installer knew what he was doing and said "No problem. It'll look great." He was right. wRec relate: We tested it with a sample of the carpet and a couple of bar clamps to bend it tightly around the bullnose. ;-) The higher weight, high quality carpet will give us an "extended period" when compared to the lower weight, lower quality options. Where am I going with this? I have to believe that the regular vacuums, with a "beater bar" does damage also. It is after all beating the fibers as the dirt passes through. That is a consideration, although a properly adjusted, quality vacuum can limit the damage and therefore extend the life of the carpet. Different types of carpets need to be vacuumed differently to ensure the longest life possible. Speed and direction matter. One of the most important adjustments is the bristle height to avoid matting, fuzzing and loss of tip definition. Some carpets, such as certain berbers, shouldn't be vacuumed with a bristle brush. If you are interested, the CRI has a pretty stringent procedure for certifying vacuums: Lots of info he https://carpet-rug.org/testing/seal-...ogram/vacuums/ Full test procedure he https://carpet-rug.org/downloads/cri-test-method-114/ I do not think that a robot vac will pull more dirt out unless it is used daily, before the dirt has a chance to sink deeper down into the fibers. |
Anybody use a Roomba in the workshop?
On 6/9/2021 10:41 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 8:04:45 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote: On 6/8/2021 5:52 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 3:04:21 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote: On 6/8/2021 12:50 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 12:44:37 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote: On 6/7/2021 5:53 PM, Bob D wrote: On Monday, June 7, 2021 at 12:51:32 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote: On 6/5/2021 4:01 PM, Patrick Denker wrote: Zombie post, but I was Googling this subject out of curiosity. The answer is yes, absolutely. I've been using a Roomba 960 as my overworked, much-abused and utterly stalwart shop-sawdust helper for 3 years. It fills up fast and sometimes chokes on nails and wood scraps but keeps on chugging. I use it in combo with a large shop vac connected to table saw dust port + overhead shop air filter. Roomba can't clean up huge piles of sawdust but is always scurrying around my feet keeping it under control. Emptying bin now and then way easier than shop-vaccing whole floor. Plus you can set schedule so it cleans dust every day as it settles. Recommend the newer self-emptying models so you don't have to dump the bin so often. We have had a Roomba since 2008. And we will likely always have one. If I ran a Roomba in my shop I would not get anything done between emptying the bin and waiting on it to get out of the way. With that said, self cleaning to empty the bin may work but not as quickly as simply sweeping or blowing the dust out. We got our first roomba about a month ago, a model 8+ from Costco. It has the built-in vaccuum in the base that automatically cleans the Roomba bin when it docks. It's working well. I am still figuring out the mapping and setting up the clean zones and barrier zones. I think we will be happy with it, but I am not getting rid of our Kirby Vacuum cleaner. It does the industrial clean. The Roomba is a maintainer. You being new with the Roomba, I would advise that you take it to the shop/garage and clean it weekly. I pull the sweepers, rotating ball wheel, side 3 prong sweeper, and dust bin out. I blow the vacuumm and the dust bin out and then witrh a damp microfiber towel wipe the entire under side and front bumpers. ALSO wipe the 3 prong brush clean. Especially wipe the front bumper and the 3 prong brush. If left dirty they will leave/transfer dirt lines on your base boards. I have been doing this for the past 13 years and seems to keep things cleaner. We still have our pro vac too, but it pretty much only gets used with the hose and wand to do the ceiling fan blades. And we only have hard floors, no carpet or rugs. I think that your final statement is key. There is that. but if you think a regular vacuum/Kirby, Ricar, what ever brand, will get all the dirt out, that is not going to happen. Never said - or even thought - that. I can't imagine that even the best made autonomous robotic vacuum cleaner could clean a carpet as well as it needs to be cleaned. Only a quality upright has the weight, power and brush configuration to remove the dirt at base of the carpet fibers. The regular vacuum cleaner is only going to remove the dirt in the carpet. They do not remove dirt that has made it to the padding and or past the padding. While an upright may do a better job as a robot vac, it is not going to get all the dirt. I used the words "base of the carpet fibers" meaning the area at the primary backing. I certainly don't expect any consumer level vacuum to suck dirt from below the primary or secondary backing (or unitary backing, if that is how the carpet was constructed). I'm not even expecting a consumer vacuum to get *all* of the dirt out, just a lot more than any robot vacuum. The more that can be removed, the less abrasion of the fibers that will occur. I'm as concerned about my carpet looking good, not just clean, for as long as possible. And something else to consider. Our robot vac runs 5 days a week. It may very well do a better job than a regular vac that is only run weekly. The robot vac can get dirt before it gets under the carpet. Said the guy that doesn't have any carpets. ;-) I would imagine that it doesn't take long for dirt and sand to get to the base of the fibers. Gravity sucks, you know. While a daily maintenance run of the robot will certainly help, I'll wager that you'd be hard pressed to find a robot vacuum listed as a "recommended vacuum" by any of the major carpet manufacturers - some of which even hint at a daily vacuuming in certain situations. In fact, the Carpet and Rug Institute has certified only one robotic vacuum (out of 314 certifications) and it's not going to work in the average living room. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jFcI9c6sNI One other thing, because we run our robot vac 5 days a week we see a significant reduction in over all dust that settles on everything. Before our robot vac we dusted our ceiling fans almost monthly. Now 3~4 times a year. No doubt. Food for thought. My thoughts haven't changed: When it come to carpets, robotic vacuums have their place as an appearance maintainer but not as an overall replacement for a quality upright or power-brush canister/whole-house system. Not if you want your carpet to last as long as possible. While the *surface* of the carpet might look clean after using a robotic vacuum, the sand and dirt particles are still doing their damage. When the abrasive dirt - especially sand - settles into the pile and then gets walked on, it abrades the fibers. Eventually the carpet begins to look thin, dull and flat. Carpet doesn't just wear directly because people walk on it, it also wears - thins out - because the base of the fibers are being cut by embedded dirt. As Bob D said: "The Roomba is a maintainer." Tossing your quality, yet unwieldy upright is a really bad idea. Depending on how much traffic a carpet sees and how dirty the overall environment is, a deep vacuuming should be done at least once a week if you want your carpets to last - not just *look* clean. Just a few more thoughts. I agree with a lot of what you say. And because flooring experts indicate that a carpet is not a long term flooring choice, it is an alternative to more expensive hard surface flooring. AND carpet is probably preferred in colder climates and or those that want something soft under their feet. Slightly getting off subject here but.... All of that is true and in my case both the colder climate and soft surface are the reasons I prefer carpet. I have hardwood under my carpets. I choose to cover it with something soft. BTW...you left out the noise muffling that carpet provides. I suppose, when we bought and did the walk through our, current home with tile floors, it was echo'y. After we moved the furniture in, we do not notice. Carpet does not enough sound deadening to be of any advantage to "us". I have not yet seen a carpet that looks good for an extended period of time. We had carpet up until about 20 years ago and went all tile. We got an average of 10 years out of a carpet and we vacuumed regularly. It's all relative. "Extended period of time" is an ambiguous phrase. There are different grades of the same carpet and the higher you go, the longer it will last under the same conditions. Besides the basic quality of any specific brand and model, most quality carpets come in 3 face weights, sometimes referred to as Good-Better-Best to keep it simple for the consumer. When we replaced our carpet a couple of years ago we wanted the highest weight available in the high quality carpet we chose. We had to have an installer come out and test our stairs to see if it would work. We wanted a Hollywood style installation where the carpet wraps around the bullnose and then goes straight down the riser as opposed to Waterfall where the carpet just cascades over the edge and down at an angle to the back of the tread. Certain carpets, especially high face weight carpets, can be hard to wrap around the bullnose. Luckily the installer knew what he was doing and said "No problem. It'll look great." He was right. wRec relate: We tested it with a sample of the carpet and a couple of bar clamps to bend it tightly around the bullnose. ;-) Hollywood huh? I did know that there was a nome for that. 99% of new homes being built, down here, have carpeted stairs and everything is covered. Only the spindles and hand rails are not covered with carpet. ;~) Builders claim a slipping liability and rarely will allow wood as an option on the stairs. We had that for about 4 years and upgraded to all wood steps and risers. Risers being painted. The higher weight, high quality carpet will give us an "extended period" when compared to the lower weight, lower quality options. No doubt, our second carpet outlasted our first carpet on our first home. Where am I going with this? I have to believe that the regular vacuums, with a "beater bar" does damage also. It is after all beating the fibers as the dirt passes through. That is a consideration, although a properly adjusted, quality vacuum can limit the damage and therefore extend the life of the carpet. Different types of carpets need to be vacuumed differently to ensure the longest life possible. Speed and direction matter. One of the most important adjustments is the bristle height to avoid matting, fuzzing and loss of tip definition. Some carpets, such as certain berbers, shouldn't be vacuumed with a bristle brush. If you are interested, the CRI has a pretty stringent procedure for certifying vacuums: Lots of info he https://carpet-rug.org/testing/seal-...ogram/vacuums/ Full test procedure he https://carpet-rug.org/downloads/cri-test-method-114/ Well thanks but no, we are done with carpet, it tends to be a too high of maintenance item, with pets, it stinks. And it does no last as long a hard surface. Do do have small throw rugs in places but that is not an issue. I do not think that a robot vac will pull more dirt out unless it is used daily, before the dirt has a chance to sink deeper down into the fibers. |
Anybody use a Roomba in the workshop?
On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 11:44:37 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
You being new with the Roomba, I would advise that you take it to the shop/garage and clean it weekly. Great advise, Leon. Thanks, Bob |
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