Had a major change of plans.

Long story short, my current living room is being divided up to a
bedroom and a den/office. It currently has a hardwood floor, with a
vapor barrier and some sort of padding. It is a floating floor.

My question is, can I just cut the floor, say 5 1/2" wide for the
width of the room, and have the wall built and finished, with a
baseboard and end up with two floors, or take the bedroom out and
leave the floor in the den?

We are ending up with guardianship of two grand kids, who knows for
how long, and as part of the project we will be building (having
built) a living room, and the kitchen extended, and soffits cut out.
Real glad I didn't get the cabinets for my kitchen even rough cut.
I'll be glad when it is all underway so I can build my new cabinets.

On Mon, 08 Aug 2016 18:43:20 -0700, OFWW
wrote:

Had a major change of plans.

Long story short, my current living room is being divided up to a
bedroom and a den/office. It currently has a hardwood floor, with a
vapor barrier and some sort of padding. It is a floating floor.

My question is, can I just cut the floor, say 5 1/2" wide for the
width of the room, and have the wall built and finished, with a
baseboard and end up with two floors, or take the bedroom out and
leave the floor in the den?

No reason why not.
I've even seen the stud wall built right on top of the hardwood floor
with it not being a load bearing wall. Not recommending it - but I've
seen it done without problems.. You don't say if the wall will run
across the hardwood, or parallel with the flooring - - -

We are ending up with guardianship of two grand kids, who knows for
how long, and as part of the project we will be building (having
built) a living room, and the kitchen extended, and soffits cut out.
Real glad I didn't get the cabinets for my kitchen even rough cut.
I'll be glad when it is all underway so I can build my new cabinets.

On 8/8/16 8:43 PM, OFWW wrote:
Had a major change of plans.

Long story short, my current living room is being divided up to a
bedroom and a den/office. It currently has a hardwood floor, with a
vapor barrier and some sort of padding. It is a floating floor.

My question is, can I just cut the floor, say 5 1/2" wide for the
width of the room, and have the wall built and finished, with a
baseboard and end up with two floors, or take the bedroom out and
leave the floor in the den?


Yes.
The only issue you might run into is having some really short pieces
near the cut line. If they try to wiggle out just secure them with a small
trim nail on the end, or glue to an adjacent piece.

Oh, and good for you for cutting the section out.
In my last house a previous owner had put in a new wall right over the
carpet.... and heating vent. I kid you not.


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-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
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On Mon, 08 Aug 2016 22:09:53 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 08 Aug 2016 18:43:20 -0700, OFWW
wrote:

Had a major change of plans.

Long story short, my current living room is being divided up to a
bedroom and a den/office. It currently has a hardwood floor, with a
vapor barrier and some sort of padding. It is a floating floor.

My question is, can I just cut the floor, say 5 1/2" wide for the
width of the room, and have the wall built and finished, with a
baseboard and end up with two floors, or take the bedroom out and
leave the floor in the den?

No reason why not.
I've even seen the stud wall built right on top of the hardwood floor
with it not being a load bearing wall. Not recommending it - but I've
seen it done without problems.. You don't say if the wall will run
across the hardwood, or parallel with the flooring - - -

The wall is run across the room on a concrete slab, the flooring
currently is run 90 deg to the wall. I wouldn't want the wall on the
flooring as it has padding, and I may want to replace it somewhere
down the road.


We are ending up with guardianship of two grand kids, who knows for
how long, and as part of the project we will be building (having
built) a living room, and the kitchen extended, and soffits cut out.
Real glad I didn't get the cabinets for my kitchen even rough cut.
I'll be glad when it is all underway so I can build my new cabinets.

On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 22:27:38 -0500, -MIKE-
wrote:

On 8/8/16 8:43 PM, OFWW wrote:
Had a major change of plans.

Long story short, my current living room is being divided up to a
bedroom and a den/office. It currently has a hardwood floor, with a
vapor barrier and some sort of padding. It is a floating floor.

My question is, can I just cut the floor, say 5 1/2" wide for the
width of the room, and have the wall built and finished, with a
baseboard and end up with two floors, or take the bedroom out and
leave the floor in the den?


Yes.
The only issue you might run into is having some really short pieces
near the cut line. If they try to wiggle out just secure them with a small
trim nail on the end, or glue to an adjacent piece.

Oh, and good for you for cutting the section out.
In my last house a previous owner had put in a new wall right over the
carpet.... and heating vent. I kid you not.

Good Grief!

Thanks for your answer, it would save a ton of time ripping it up and
relaying it down.

On 8/8/16 10:55 PM, OFWW wrote:
On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 22:27:38 -0500, -MIKE-
wrote:

On 8/8/16 8:43 PM, OFWW wrote:
Had a major change of plans.

Long story short, my current living room is being divided up to
a bedroom and a den/office. It currently has a hardwood floor,
with a vapor barrier and some sort of padding. It is a floating
floor.

My question is, can I just cut the floor, say 5 1/2" wide for
the width of the room, and have the wall built and finished, with
a baseboard and end up with two floors, or take the bedroom out
and leave the floor in the den?


Yes. The only issue you might run into is having some really short
pieces near the cut line. If they try to wiggle out just secure
them with a small trim nail on the end, or glue to an adjacent
piece.

Oh, and good for you for cutting the section out. In my last house
a previous owner had put in a new wall right over the carpet....
and heating vent. I kid you not.

Good Grief!

Thanks for your answer, it would save a ton of time ripping it up
and relaying it down.


One other thing... If I were doing that job I would put down some Ram
Board or equivalent floor protector on the engineered flooring. Not
only does it protect the finished floor, but it doesn't get slippery
from sawdust the way a finished wood floor does.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com

---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

Had a major change of plans.
snips
We are ending up with guardianship of two grand kids, who knows for
how long,


Difficult times - here's wishing all-the-best for you & the
grandkids and their parents too. Without knowing the details of your
situation - do seek the help of the social work professionals who
dedicate their lives to difficult situations.
Don't under-estimate the trauma those kids are going through.
A cherry popsicle and a Disney tape in the VCR won't cut it.
It's a different world now. really different.
Seek out a group as in group therapy of other Grandparents
who are going through a similar experience - you will be surprised
how many are out there ! thank me later
The logistics of the kids living space .. is far far less
important than the love & hugs & time spent caring for their
feelings. Sorry for hijacking the thread - poop happens.
John T.

On 8/8/2016 8:43 PM, OFWW wrote:
My question is, can I just cut the floor, say 5 1/2" wide for the
width of the room, and have the wall built and finished, with a
baseboard and end up with two floors,

Yes, depending upon orientation of the floor boards, be sure to leave
that gap for expansion on both sides, and take care to protect the floor
when you're cutting it.

This is an excellent job for a plunge saw with a track system, like the
Festool TS-55 ... and, an excellent opportunity to put one in the
building budget, with the money you saved by DIY.

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On 8/9/16 7:22 AM, Swingman wrote:
This is an excellent job for a plunge saw with a track system, like the
Festool TS-55 ... and, an excellent opportunity to put one in the
building budget, with the money you saved by DIY.


Great minds!!


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com

---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 23:01:10 -0500, -MIKE-
wrote:

On 8/8/16 10:55 PM, OFWW wrote:
On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 22:27:38 -0500, -MIKE-
wrote:

On 8/8/16 8:43 PM, OFWW wrote:
Had a major change of plans.

Long story short, my current living room is being divided up to
a bedroom and a den/office. It currently has a hardwood floor,
with a vapor barrier and some sort of padding. It is a floating
floor.

My question is, can I just cut the floor, say 5 1/2" wide for
the width of the room, and have the wall built and finished, with
a baseboard and end up with two floors, or take the bedroom out
and leave the floor in the den?


Yes. The only issue you might run into is having some really short
pieces near the cut line. If they try to wiggle out just secure
them with a small trim nail on the end, or glue to an adjacent
piece.

Oh, and good for you for cutting the section out. In my last house
a previous owner had put in a new wall right over the carpet....
and heating vent. I kid you not.

Good Grief!

Thanks for your answer, it would save a ton of time ripping it up
and relaying it down.


One other thing... If I were doing that job I would put down some Ram
Board or equivalent floor protector on the engineered flooring. Not
only does it protect the finished floor, but it doesn't get slippery
from sawdust the way a finished wood floor does.

Thanks Mike, I was wondering which way to go on that.

On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 00:38:05 -0400, wrote:


Had a major change of plans.
snips
We are ending up with guardianship of two grand kids, who knows for
how long,


Difficult times - here's wishing all-the-best for you & the
grandkids and their parents too. Without knowing the details of your
situation - do seek the help of the social work professionals who
dedicate their lives to difficult situations.
Don't under-estimate the trauma those kids are going through.
A cherry popsicle and a Disney tape in the VCR won't cut it.
It's a different world now. really different.
Seek out a group as in group therapy of other Grandparents
who are going through a similar experience - you will be surprised
how many are out there ! thank me later
The logistics of the kids living space .. is far far less
important than the love & hugs & time spent caring for their
feelings. Sorry for hijacking the thread - poop happens.
John T.

I appreciate your thoughts, you are describing what we are getting
setup for the near future here, with the self help programs and such.
Need to be able to recognize warning signs, but the kids have been
excelling in school, with new friends and such, yet what you are
describing we are in the process of it.

Who knows how their parents are going to change or when. So we are
looking at long term care, but hoping for short term.

Your thoughts mean a lot to me. They used to ask to come to our house
on weekends and holidays. Now I think I know why.

On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 07:22:17 -0500, Swingman wrote:

On 8/8/2016 8:43 PM, OFWW wrote:
My question is, can I just cut the floor, say 5 1/2" wide for the
width of the room, and have the wall built and finished, with a
baseboard and end up with two floors,

Yes, depending upon orientation of the floor boards, be sure to leave
that gap for expansion on both sides, and take care to protect the floor
when you're cutting it.

This is an excellent job for a plunge saw with a track system, like the
Festool TS-55 ... and, an excellent opportunity to put one in the
building budget, with the money you saved by DIY.

Now there's a thought! After all a very clean cut is desirable there.
At each end I'll need to use one of those vibrating cutters, where the
circular saw can't cut.

Off to check the prices.

On 8/9/2016 10:37 PM, OFWW wrote:
On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 00:38:05 -0400, wrote:


Had a major change of plans.
snips
We are ending up with guardianship of two grand kids, who knows for
how long,


Difficult times - here's wishing all-the-best for you & the
grandkids and their parents too. Without knowing the details of your
situation - do seek the help of the social work professionals who
dedicate their lives to difficult situations.
Don't under-estimate the trauma those kids are going through.
A cherry popsicle and a Disney tape in the VCR won't cut it.
It's a different world now. really different.
Seek out a group as in group therapy of other Grandparents
who are going through a similar experience - you will be surprised
how many are out there ! thank me later
The logistics of the kids living space .. is far far less
important than the love & hugs & time spent caring for their
feelings. Sorry for hijacking the thread - poop happens.
John T.

I appreciate your thoughts, you are describing what we are getting
setup for the near future here, with the self help programs and such.
Need to be able to recognize warning signs, but the kids have been
excelling in school, with new friends and such, yet what you are
describing we are in the process of it.

Who knows how their parents are going to change or when. So we are
looking at long term care, but hoping for short term.

Your thoughts mean a lot to me. They used to ask to come to our house
on weekends and holidays. Now I think I know why.



And take heart in knowing that grand parents raising their grand
children can be a very rewarding experience for both.

An outstanding Olympian, Simone Biles.

http://time.com/4352599/simone-biles...ation-leaders/

On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 10:44:45 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 8/9/2016 10:37 PM, OFWW wrote:
On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 00:38:05 -0400, wrote:


Had a major change of plans.
snips
We are ending up with guardianship of two grand kids, who knows for
how long,


Difficult times - here's wishing all-the-best for you & the
grandkids and their parents too. Without knowing the details of your
situation - do seek the help of the social work professionals who
dedicate their lives to difficult situations.
Don't under-estimate the trauma those kids are going through.
A cherry popsicle and a Disney tape in the VCR won't cut it.
It's a different world now. really different.
Seek out a group as in group therapy of other Grandparents
who are going through a similar experience - you will be surprised
how many are out there ! thank me later
The logistics of the kids living space .. is far far less
important than the love & hugs & time spent caring for their
feelings. Sorry for hijacking the thread - poop happens.
John T.

I appreciate your thoughts, you are describing what we are getting
setup for the near future here, with the self help programs and such.
Need to be able to recognize warning signs, but the kids have been
excelling in school, with new friends and such, yet what you are
describing we are in the process of it.

Who knows how their parents are going to change or when. So we are
looking at long term care, but hoping for short term.

Your thoughts mean a lot to me. They used to ask to come to our house
on weekends and holidays. Now I think I know why.



And take heart in knowing that grand parents raising their grand
children can be a very rewarding experience for both.

An outstanding Olympian, Simone Biles.

http://time.com/4352599/simone-biles...ation-leaders/


Great article, thanks.