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Jigsaw jams too often
Hi,
My Black & Decker jigsaw works if I ease into a cut, but recently has started to jam (and I hear the motor spin really fast and I hear gears slip) if I try to cut too fast. As I release the trigger, it starts to move again if no force is applied to the cut. So, it works, but only if I bring it up to full speed before starting a cut and avoid any sudden cuts or turns. Is this something easily repairable, or time to buy a new one? Advice appreciated. Many thanks Theodore. |
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Jigsaw jams too often
On 2016-05-16, John McCoy wrote:
If you use a jigsaw frequently, you might want to look at a higher-end model, like a Bosch. .....or a Makita. Make sure any jigsaw you purchase has a built-in sawdust blower. Screw all the other features. I bought a DeWalt and it has NO blower. I gotta lean over the top of the jigsaw to manually blow the sawdust outta the way to see the cutting line! Totally infuriating. 8| nb |
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On 5/16/2016 1:59 PM, notbob wrote:
On 2016-05-16, John McCoy wrote: If you use a jigsaw frequently, you might want to look at a higher-end model, like a Bosch. ....or a Makita. Make sure any jigsaw you purchase has a built-in sawdust blower. Screw all the other features. I bought a DeWalt and it has NO blower. I gotta lean over the top of the jigsaw to manually blow the sawdust outta the way to see the cutting line! Totally infuriating. 8| nb Unfortunately jigsaws with blowers don't always clear the path either. |
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On 2016-05-16, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:
Unfortunately jigsaws with blowers don't always clear the path either. I kinda suspected that, but some blower has jes gotta be better than no blower, at all. ;) Here is the best reviews I've found: http://www.rockler.com/how-to/testin...shelf-jigsaws/ Amazing! The Mafell can be had fer under $1K. ;) nb |
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On 16 May 2016 18:59:36 GMT, notbob wrote:
On 2016-05-16, John McCoy wrote: If you use a jigsaw frequently, you might want to look at a higher-end model, like a Bosch. ....or a Makita. Make sure any jigsaw you purchase has a built-in sawdust blower. Screw all the other features. I bought a DeWalt and it has NO blower. I gotta lean over the top of the jigsaw to manually blow the sawdust outta the way to see the cutting line! Totally infuriating. 8| I'd think the sawdust sucker on a (cue Leon) Festool would be a big plus. I've thought about buying one a couple of times but every time I use my Bosch, I decide there is no way I could justify replacing it. |
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On 5/16/2016 6:37 PM, krw wrote:
I'd think the sawdust sucker on a (cue Leon) Festool would be a big plus. I've thought about buying one a couple of times but every time I use my Bosch, I decide there is no way I could justify replacing it. Much as I like my Festools, No way I'd let go of my Bosch jig saw ... and mine is one of the older ones, with the archaic blade changing dance routine. -- eWoodShop: www.eWoodShop.com Wood Shop: www.e-WoodShop.net https://www.google.com/+eWoodShop https://plus.google.com/+KarlCaillouet/posts http://www.custommade.com/by/ewoodshop/ https://www.facebook.com/eWoodShop-206166666122228 KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) |
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notbob wrote:
On 2016-05-16, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: Unfortunately jigsaws with blowers don't always clear the path either. I kinda suspected that, but some blower has jes gotta be better than no blower, at all. ;) Here is the best reviews I've found: http://www.rockler.com/how-to/testin...shelf-jigsaws/ Amazing! The Mafell can be had fer under $1K. ;) nb I have an old Milwaukee that is a stellar saw but the blower in ineffective. It does have a hole for locating a vac hose and that works pretty good but I still never use it. |
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krw wrote:
On 16 May 2016 18:59:36 GMT, notbob wrote: On 2016-05-16, John McCoy wrote: If you use a jigsaw frequently, you might want to look at a higher-end model, like a Bosch. ....or a Makita. Make sure any jigsaw you purchase has a built-in sawdust blower. Screw all the other features. I bought a DeWalt and it has NO blower. I gotta lean over the top of the jigsaw to manually blow the sawdust outta the way to see the cutting line! Totally infuriating. 8| I'd think the sawdust sucker on a (cue Leon) Festool would be a big plus. I've thought about buying one a couple of times but every time I use my Bosch, I decide there is no way I could justify replacing it. LOL. It would be very hard to justify replacing a Bosch unless you use it "a lot" and it does not have the quick change blade feature. IIRC Swingman has an older Bosch that has the blade change set up that is similar to operating a combination lock. I think he pulls out the owners manual each time he changes blades. :-) |
Jigsaw jams too often
Hi, I'm the OP.
Sounds very much like my jigsaw's time is not long for this earth. Thanks for the advice, on all parts. |
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J. Clarke wrote:
In article , says... On 5/16/2016 6:37 PM, krw wrote: I'd think the sawdust sucker on a (cue Leon) Festool would be a big plus. I've thought about buying one a couple of times but every time I use my Bosch, I decide there is no way I could justify replacing it. Much as I like my Festools, No way I'd let go of my Bosch jig saw ... and mine is one of the older ones, with the archaic blade changing dance routine. Keep it. My old one died (needs a part that's no longer available) after several decades and quite frankly compared to the old one the new one is a piece of crap. I find that blade guides or no, half the time it decides it's going to cut a bevel whether I want one or not. I suspect that the quick change doesn't hold the blade as firmly as the old screw-from-the-top clamp. I would suspect you would be wrong. |
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On Mon, 16 May 2016 18:54:36 -0500, Swingman wrote:
Much as I like my Festools, No way I'd let go of my Bosch jig saw ... and mine is one of the older ones, with the archaic blade changing dance routine. I've got one of those as well. Never compared it with a newer one as this one still works like a charm. And I bought it refurbished! -- When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross. |
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On 5/17/2016 11:29 AM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
On Mon, 16 May 2016 18:54:36 -0500, Swingman wrote: Much as I like my Festools, No way I'd let go of my Bosch jig saw ... and mine is one of the older ones, with the archaic blade changing dance routine. I've got one of those as well. Never compared it with a newer one as this one still works like a charm. And I bought it refurbished! Leon was right though ... I do have to RTFM to change the blade. Moreso the older I get. -- eWoodShop: www.eWoodShop.com Wood Shop: www.e-WoodShop.net https://www.google.com/+eWoodShop https://plus.google.com/+KarlCaillouet/posts http://www.custommade.com/by/ewoodshop/ https://www.facebook.com/eWoodShop-206166666122228 KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) |
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On 5/16/2016 2:59 PM, notbob wrote:
On 2016-05-16, John McCoy wrote: If you use a jigsaw frequently, you might want to look at a higher-end model, like a Bosch. ....or a Makita. Make sure any jigsaw you purchase has a built-in sawdust blower. Screw all the other features. I bought a DeWalt and it has NO blower. I gotta lean over the top of the jigsaw to manually blow the sawdust outta the way to see the cutting line! Totally infuriating. 8| nb My dewally has a blower. -- Jeff |
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On 2016-05-17, woodchucker wrote:
My dewally has a blower. Apparently, I got the cheap one. I recall it came with a palm sander. I also bought the DW 13V drill gun, not realizing there was such a thing as a drill/driver. Duh. I've leaned a lot, since then. I now have a used Hitachi drill/driver. Waaaay better. ;) nb |
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On 5/17/2016 2:41 PM, notbob wrote:
On 2016-05-17, woodchucker wrote: My dewally has a blower. Apparently, I got the cheap one. I recall it came with a palm sander. I also bought the DW 13V drill gun, not realizing there was such a thing as a drill/driver. Duh. I've leaned a lot, since then. I now have a used Hitachi drill/driver. Waaaay better. ;) nb I have a 10v hitachi drill and impact driver set. I got it because I wanted a light duty drill. Well the drill is ok (chuck sucks won't tighten and stay tight especially in reverse) but the surprise was the little impact driver. its really nice. I like both (don't get me wrong), I wanted light weight and the ability to stand up. I am not a fan of many of the dewally stuff. Some are good, many lately have me wondering what happened to them. To me they are becoming consumer grade. -- Jeff |
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On 2016-05-17, woodchucker wrote:
tighten and stay tight especially in reverse) but the surprise was the little impact driver. its really nice. Mine is a 13V drill/driver with mostly dead batteries. The batteries will hold up fer around-the-house stuff, but my buddy who gave it to me is a pro and wanted longer bat life, so got a new 18V Hitachi. I can buy new batteries, but the old one's are OK, fer now. I'd already gone out and bought a true impact driver, thinking that was my only solution: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ImpactDriverWithBits.png .....but that was before I knew about "drill/drivers". Love my Hitachi, even with the old batteries. ;) nb |
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woodchucker wrote in news:oIydneDJrsT98abKnZ2dnUU7-
: I have a 10v hitachi drill and impact driver set. I got it because I wanted a light duty drill. Well the drill is ok (chuck sucks won't tighten and stay tight especially in reverse) Yeah, my Hitachi drill does that too. Seems to be a generic problem with Hitachi chucks. Otherwise a nice drill. John |
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On 5/17/2016 11:29 AM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
On Mon, 16 May 2016 18:54:36 -0500, Swingman wrote: Much as I like my Festools, No way I'd let go of my Bosch jig saw ... and mine is one of the older ones, with the archaic blade changing dance routine. I've got one of those as well. Never compared it with a newer one as this one still works like a charm. And I bought it refurbished! LOL, Probably refurbished because it was too hard to remember how to replace the blade. A stellar saw other than that single element. |
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On 5/17/2016 2:09 PM, woodchucker wrote:
On 5/17/2016 2:41 PM, notbob wrote: On 2016-05-17, woodchucker wrote: My dewally has a blower. Apparently, I got the cheap one. I recall it came with a palm sander. I also bought the DW 13V drill gun, not realizing there was such a thing as a drill/driver. Duh. I've leaned a lot, since then. I now have a used Hitachi drill/driver. Waaaay better. ;) nb I have a 10v hitachi drill and impact driver set. I got it because I wanted a light duty drill. Well the drill is ok (chuck sucks won't tighten and stay tight especially in reverse) but the surprise was the little impact driver. its really nice. If you ever consider replacing, consider a Festool drill. I know, I know... I have owned a 9.6 volt Panasonic drill/driver, the best until I bought the Festool, 2- Dewalt 9.6 volt drills/drivers, and a 12 volt Makita drill/driver and 12 volt Makita impact driver. And won an 18 volt Bosch impact. I used the Makita impact as much as the drill up until the batteries were pooping out and I replaced with the 15 volt Festool with the attachments. Since getting this drill I on an occasion or two have used the Bosch impact, mostly as a drill so that I don't have to switch driver bits with drill bits. Anyway the Festool drills seem to have an amazing amount of power. I can start a 3" #10 deck screw into a 2x4 to fasten to another 2x4. I can drive slowly, quickly, stop, start slowly, what ever I want. I'm not sure I have ever stalled the drill. Anyway Festool is really getting serious about selling their drills and they can be had for less than $300 these days. Just food for thought. I like both (don't get me wrong), I wanted light weight and the ability to stand up. I am not a fan of many of the dewally stuff. Some are good, many lately have me wondering what happened to them. To me they are becoming consumer grade. A friend bought a DeWalt jig saw several years ago. You could be sawing and suddenly no longer cutting. The blade would come right out of the saw. We never quite figured out how to hold our mouths to get the saw to permanently hold the blades. |
Jigsaw jams too often
On 5/17/2016 6:24 PM, Leon wrote:
On 5/17/2016 2:09 PM, woodchucker wrote: On 5/17/2016 2:41 PM, notbob wrote: On 2016-05-17, woodchucker wrote: My dewally has a blower. Apparently, I got the cheap one. I recall it came with a palm sander. I also bought the DW 13V drill gun, not realizing there was such a thing as a drill/driver. Duh. I've leaned a lot, since then. I now have a used Hitachi drill/driver. Waaaay better. ;) nb I have a 10v hitachi drill and impact driver set. I got it because I wanted a light duty drill. Well the drill is ok (chuck sucks won't tighten and stay tight especially in reverse) but the surprise was the little impact driver. its really nice. If you ever consider replacing, consider a Festool drill. I know, I know... I have owned a 9.6 volt Panasonic drill/driver, the best until I bought the Festool, 2- Dewalt 9.6 volt drills/drivers, and a 12 volt Makita drill/driver and 12 volt Makita impact driver. And won an 18 volt Bosch impact. I used the Makita impact as much as the drill up until the batteries were pooping out and I replaced with the 15 volt Festool with the attachments. Since getting this drill I on an occasion or two have used the Bosch impact, mostly as a drill so that I don't have to switch driver bits with drill bits. Anyway the Festool drills seem to have an amazing amount of power. I can start a 3" #10 deck screw into a 2x4 to fasten to another 2x4. I can drive slowly, quickly, stop, start slowly, what ever I want. I'm not sure I have ever stalled the drill. Anyway Festool is really getting serious about selling their drills and they can be had for less than $300 these days. Just food for thought. That's still giving up 2 legs and 2 testicles .. less than $300, last time I looked they were $500 which in my mind was not worth it. I like both (don't get me wrong), I wanted light weight and the ability to stand up. I am not a fan of many of the dewally stuff. Some are good, many lately have me wondering what happened to them. To me they are becoming consumer grade. A friend bought a DeWalt jig saw several years ago. You could be sawing and suddenly no longer cutting. The blade would come right out of the saw. We never quite figured out how to hold our mouths to get the saw to permanently hold the blades. -- Jeff |
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On Tue, 17 May 2016 07:04:38 -0400, "J. Clarke"
wrote: In article , says... On 5/16/2016 6:37 PM, krw wrote: I'd think the sawdust sucker on a (cue Leon) Festool would be a big plus. I've thought about buying one a couple of times but every time I use my Bosch, I decide there is no way I could justify replacing it. Much as I like my Festools, No way I'd let go of my Bosch jig saw ... and mine is one of the older ones, with the archaic blade changing dance routine. Keep it. My old one died (needs a part that's no longer available) after several decades and quite frankly compared to the old one the new one is a piece of crap. I find that blade guides or no, half the time it decides it's going to cut a bevel whether I want one or not. I suspect that the quick change doesn't hold the blade as firmly as the old screw-from-the-top clamp. I've never had a problem with my "new" (6-7YO) Bosch. It's stellar. |
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On Mon, 16 May 2016 22:55:22 -0500, Leon wrote:
krw wrote: On 16 May 2016 18:59:36 GMT, notbob wrote: On 2016-05-16, John McCoy wrote: If you use a jigsaw frequently, you might want to look at a higher-end model, like a Bosch. ....or a Makita. Make sure any jigsaw you purchase has a built-in sawdust blower. Screw all the other features. I bought a DeWalt and it has NO blower. I gotta lean over the top of the jigsaw to manually blow the sawdust outta the way to see the cutting line! Totally infuriating. 8| I'd think the sawdust sucker on a (cue Leon) Festool would be a big plus. I've thought about buying one a couple of times but every time I use my Bosch, I decide there is no way I could justify replacing it. LOL. It would be very hard to justify replacing a Bosch unless you use it "a lot" and it does not have the quick change blade feature. My Bosch does have the quick-change feature. I don't "justify" anything to do with woodworking. It's a hobby. By definition, it can't be justified. ;-) IIRC Swingman has an older Bosch that has the blade change set up that is similar to operating a combination lock. I think he pulls out the owners manual each time he changes blades. :-) That would suck. |
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On Tue, 17 May 2016 15:09:18 -0400, woodchucker
wrote: On 5/17/2016 2:41 PM, notbob wrote: On 2016-05-17, woodchucker wrote: My dewally has a blower. Apparently, I got the cheap one. I recall it came with a palm sander. I also bought the DW 13V drill gun, not realizing there was such a thing as a drill/driver. Duh. I've leaned a lot, since then. I now have a used Hitachi drill/driver. Waaaay better. ;) nb I have a 10v hitachi drill and impact driver set. I got it because I wanted a light duty drill. Well the drill is ok (chuck sucks won't tighten and stay tight especially in reverse) but the surprise was the little impact driver. its really nice. I like both (don't get me wrong), I wanted light weight and the ability to stand up. I am not a fan of many of the dewally stuff. Some are good, many lately have me wondering what happened to them. To me they are becoming consumer grade. That was inevitable when B&D took them over. Used to be B&B made decent pro tools too - but hat is decades ago. |
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krw wrote:
On Mon, 16 May 2016 22:55:22 -0500, Leon wrote: krw wrote: On 16 May 2016 18:59:36 GMT, notbob wrote: On 2016-05-16, John McCoy wrote: If you use a jigsaw frequently, you might want to look at a higher-end model, like a Bosch. ....or a Makita. Make sure any jigsaw you purchase has a built-in sawdust blower. Screw all the other features. I bought a DeWalt and it has NO blower. I gotta lean over the top of the jigsaw to manually blow the sawdust outta the way to see the cutting line! Totally infuriating. 8| I'd think the sawdust sucker on a (cue Leon) Festool would be a big plus. I've thought about buying one a couple of times but every time I use my Bosch, I decide there is no way I could justify replacing it. LOL. It would be very hard to justify replacing a Bosch unless you use it "a lot" and it does not have the quick change blade feature. My Bosch does have the quick-change feature. I don't "justify" anything to do with woodworking. It's a hobby. By definition, it can't be justified. ;-) If it is a hobby and you can afford it that is enough justification. :-) IIRC Swingman has an older Bosch that has the blade change set up that is similar to operating a combination lock. I think he pulls out the owners manual each time he changes blades. :-) That would suck. |
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woodchucker wrote:
On 5/17/2016 6:24 PM, Leon wrote: On 5/17/2016 2:09 PM, woodchucker wrote: On 5/17/2016 2:41 PM, notbob wrote: On 2016-05-17, woodchucker wrote: My dewally has a blower. Apparently, I got the cheap one. I recall it came with a palm sander. I also bought the DW 13V drill gun, not realizing there was such a thing as a drill/driver. Duh. I've leaned a lot, since then. I now have a used Hitachi drill/driver. Waaaay better. ;) nb I have a 10v hitachi drill and impact driver set. I got it because I wanted a light duty drill. Well the drill is ok (chuck sucks won't tighten and stay tight especially in reverse) but the surprise was the little impact driver. its really nice. If you ever consider replacing, consider a Festool drill. I know, I know... I have owned a 9.6 volt Panasonic drill/driver, the best until I bought the Festool, 2- Dewalt 9.6 volt drills/drivers, and a 12 volt Makita drill/driver and 12 volt Makita impact driver. And won an 18 volt Bosch impact. I used the Makita impact as much as the drill up until the batteries were pooping out and I replaced with the 15 volt Festool with the attachments. Since getting this drill I on an occasion or two have used the Bosch impact, mostly as a drill so that I don't have to switch driver bits with drill bits. Anyway the Festool drills seem to have an amazing amount of power. I can start a 3" #10 deck screw into a 2x4 to fasten to another 2x4. I can drive slowly, quickly, stop, start slowly, what ever I want. I'm not sure I have ever stalled the drill. Anyway Festool is really getting serious about selling their drills and they can be had for less than $300 these days. Just food for thought. That's still giving up 2 legs and 2 testicles .. less than $300, last time I looked they were $500 which in my mind was not worth it. http://festools-online.com/564513-fe...-2-6-plus.html |
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Leon wrote in
: http://festools-online.com/564513-fe...txs-li-2-6-plu s.html Why do I feel like I have to be over 18 to visit that site? Oh, and guys look: FREE T-SHIRT OR CAP! Puckdropper |
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On 5/18/2016 8:33 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
Leon wrote in : http://festools-online.com/564513-fe...txs-li-2-6-plu s.html Why do I feel like I have to be over 18 to visit that site? Oh, and guys look: FREE T-SHIRT OR CAP! Puckdropper Hey! LOL. Just bringing your attention to the new pricing. While my lone Festool drill does not completely replace my 18 volt impact, should my impact poop out I will probably switch over to a ratchet to manually install lag screws, if the Festool drill can't drive them, but so far it does. I probable have not used the impact over 4~5 times in the last 4-1/2 years since getting the Festool drill. My Festool drill has pretty much made my impact obsolete. FWIW I visited the Festool road show and was given the option of a Festool cap or a Festool 15 volt battery. I took the battery. ;~) |
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On Mon, 16 May 2016 10:31:18 -0700 (PDT)
wrote: repairable, or time to buy a new one? Advice appreciated. Many thanks buy a bosch you will not regret it especially if you do a lot of jigsawing |
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On 5/18/2016 8:33 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
Oh, and guys look: FREE T-SHIRT OR CAP! Hey, it you can sell used cars with ten thousand balloons and a giant flag, or two ... Besides, Linda loves my NEW Festool hat I won for visiting their road show last month. She wears it all the time ... -- eWoodShop: www.eWoodShop.com Wood Shop: www.e-WoodShop.net https://www.google.com/+eWoodShop https://plus.google.com/+KarlCaillouet/posts http://www.custommade.com/by/ewoodshop/ https://www.facebook.com/eWoodShop-206166666122228 KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) |
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On Tue, 17 May 2016 17:12:48 -0500, Leon wrote:
On 5/17/2016 11:29 AM, Larry Blanchard wrote: On Mon, 16 May 2016 18:54:36 -0500, Swingman wrote: Much as I like my Festools, No way I'd let go of my Bosch jig saw ... and mine is one of the older ones, with the archaic blade changing dance routine. I've got one of those as well. Never compared it with a newer one as this one still works like a charm. And I bought it refurbished! LOL, Probably refurbished because it was too hard to remember how to replace the blade. A stellar saw other than that single element. When I worked part time at Woodcraft, one of the power tool reps told me to always buy a factory refurbished tool over a new one. His logic was that when a tool was returned, the reason was often hard to determine. So the repair crew went through and checked everything. A more thorough testing than the new ones received. -- When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross. |
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On 5/18/2016 5:17 PM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
When I worked part time at Woodcraft, one of the power tool reps told me to always buy a factory refurbished tool over a new one. His logic was that when a tool was returned, the reason was often hard to determine. So the repair crew went through and checked everything. A more thorough testing than the new ones received. My rationale exactly, when I buy a refurbished/returned/scratch n'dent laptop from Dell when I need a new(er) one. Hasn't failed me yet ... -- eWoodShop: www.eWoodShop.com Wood Shop: www.e-WoodShop.net https://www.google.com/+eWoodShop https://plus.google.com/+KarlCaillouet/posts http://www.custommade.com/by/ewoodshop/ https://www.facebook.com/eWoodShop-206166666122228 KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) |
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On Wed, 18 May 2016 22:17:25 +0000 (UTC), Larry Blanchard
wrote: On Tue, 17 May 2016 17:12:48 -0500, Leon wrote: On 5/17/2016 11:29 AM, Larry Blanchard wrote: On Mon, 16 May 2016 18:54:36 -0500, Swingman wrote: Much as I like my Festools, No way I'd let go of my Bosch jig saw ... and mine is one of the older ones, with the archaic blade changing dance routine. I've got one of those as well. Never compared it with a newer one as this one still works like a charm. And I bought it refurbished! LOL, Probably refurbished because it was too hard to remember how to replace the blade. A stellar saw other than that single element. When I worked part time at Woodcraft, one of the power tool reps told me to always buy a factory refurbished tool over a new one. His logic was that when a tool was returned, the reason was often hard to determine. So the repair crew went through and checked everything. A more thorough testing than the new ones received. Or it could be a latent defect that got through test in the first place and will again every time they do the same tests. I wouldn't worry too much about it for tools but I'd never buy any refurb electronics. |
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On 5/18/2016 5:17 PM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
On Tue, 17 May 2016 17:12:48 -0500, Leon wrote: On 5/17/2016 11:29 AM, Larry Blanchard wrote: On Mon, 16 May 2016 18:54:36 -0500, Swingman wrote: Much as I like my Festools, No way I'd let go of my Bosch jig saw ... and mine is one of the older ones, with the archaic blade changing dance routine. I've got one of those as well. Never compared it with a newer one as this one still works like a charm. And I bought it refurbished! LOL, Probably refurbished because it was too hard to remember how to replace the blade. A stellar saw other than that single element. When I worked part time at Woodcraft, one of the power tool reps told me to always buy a factory refurbished tool over a new one. His logic was that when a tool was returned, the reason was often hard to determine. So the repair crew went through and checked everything. A more thorough testing than the new ones received. That makes perfect scene. |
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krw wrote:
Or it could be a latent defect that got through test in the first place and will again every time they do the same tests. I wouldn't worry too much about it for tools but I'd never buy any refurb electronics. I buy refurb electronics all of the time, and have for a lot of years. Never had a single problem with any of the stuff I've bought. Often times the refurb process is to simply replace the offending part with brand new and make it available. Hardly any different from buying brand new. Generally speaking they also upgrade any parts that have been superseded by revisions or updates as well. -- -Mike- |
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On 2016-05-19, Mike Marlow wrote:
Never had a single problem with any of the stuff I've bought. Lucky you! I've had Century-Link replace my DLS/wifi modem 3 times. The first two shipped to me were refurbs, neither of which solved the problem. **NOTE: Century-Link will ship nothing BUT refurbs. NO new modems shipped to customers** The third was also a refurb, which the C-L tech brought to my house. He tried to tell me, "that's the way it is, sometimes". I told him I was having none of it. I wanted it working right! He finally relented and said we could try one more thing, but he'd hafta go to the shop. Back in about 15 mins, he brought a BRAND NEW modem. Same model as the previous three, but not a refurb. It worked!! Problem solved. End of story. (which is true) What were you saying about refurbs? ;) nb |
Jigsaw jams too often
On 19 May 2016 16:22:23 GMT, notbob wrote:
On 2016-05-19, Mike Marlow wrote: Never had a single problem with any of the stuff I've bought. Lucky you! I've had Century-Link replace my DLS/wifi modem 3 times. The first two shipped to me were refurbs, neither of which solved the problem. **NOTE: Century-Link will ship nothing BUT refurbs. NO new modems shipped to customers** The third was also a refurb, which the C-L tech brought to my house. He tried to tell me, "that's the way it is, sometimes". I told him I was having none of it. I wanted it working right! He finally relented and said we could try one more thing, but he'd hafta go to the shop. Back in about 15 mins, he brought a BRAND NEW modem. Same model as the previous three, but not a refurb. It worked!! Problem solved. End of story. (which is true) What were you saying about refurbs? ;) nb Refurbed junk is still junk. Some stuff should never be sold, new or refurbed - and if something has an intermittent problem it is very likely the refurb process won;t find and fix the problem. A lot of what is sold as refurb is just stuff that had damaged packaging or has been dropped in shipping do the manufacturer will not puit on full warranty. |
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