Enjoy

Lew
-----------------------------------------------------


WINDOWS: Please enter your new password.

USER: cabbage

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password must be more
than 8 characters.

USER: boiled cabbage

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password must contain
1 numerical character.

USER: 1 boiled cabbage

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password cannot have
blank spaces.

USER: 50damnboiledcabbages

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password must contain at
least one upper case character.

USER: 50DAMNboiledcabbages

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password cannot use more
than one upper case character consecutively.

USER: 50damnBoiledCabbagesShovedUpYourAss!

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password cannot contain
punctuation.

USER:

Really****edOff50DamnBoiledCabbagesShovedUp
YourAssIfYouDontGiveMeAccessNow

WINDOWS: Sorry, that password is already in use.

Thanks Lew!
I resemble the User from time to time.
Just tell me the xxx rules! Really.

Martin

On 7/17/2015 7:40 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
Enjoy

Lew
-----------------------------------------------------


WINDOWS: Please enter your new password.

USER: cabbage

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password must be more
than 8 characters.

USER: boiled cabbage

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password must contain
1 numerical character.

USER: 1 boiled cabbage

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password cannot have
blank spaces.

USER: 50damnboiledcabbages

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password must contain at
least one upper case character.

USER: 50DAMNboiledcabbages

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password cannot use more
than one upper case character consecutively.

USER: 50damnBoiledCabbagesShovedUpYourAss!

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password cannot contain
punctuation.

USER:

Really****edOff50DamnBoiledCabbagesShovedUp
YourAssIfYouDontGiveMeAccessNow

WINDOWS: Sorry, that password is already in use.

Martin Eastburn wrote in news:CRjqx.254483
:

Thanks Lew!
I resemble the User from time to time.
Just tell me the xxx rules! Really.

Martin

On 7/17/2015 7:40 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
Enjoy

Lew
-----------------------------------------------------


WINDOWS: Please enter your new password.

USER: cabbage

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password must be more
than 8 characters.

USER: boiled cabbage

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password must contain
1 numerical character.

USER: 1 boiled cabbage

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password cannot have
blank spaces.

USER: 50damnboiledcabbages

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password must contain at
least one upper case character.

USER: 50DAMNboiledcabbages

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password cannot use more
than one upper case character consecutively.

USER: 50damnBoiledCabbagesShovedUpYourAss!

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password cannot contain
punctuation.

USER:

Really****edOff50DamnBoiledCabbagesShovedUp
YourAssIfYouDontGiveMeAccessNow

WINDOWS: Sorry, that password is already in use.




Senior? Stupid password rules affect most of us in exactly the same way.
It gets so bad sometimes that the only thing you can do is write them
down.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

On 7/18/2015 3:54 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
Martin Eastburn wrote in news:CRjqx.254483
:

Thanks Lew!
I resemble the User from time to time.
Just tell me the xxx rules! Really.

Martin

On 7/17/2015 7:40 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
Enjoy

Lew
-----------------------------------------------------


WINDOWS: Please enter your new password.

USER: cabbage

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password must be more
than 8 characters.

USER: boiled cabbage

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password must contain
1 numerical character.

USER: 1 boiled cabbage

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password cannot have
blank spaces.

USER: 50damnboiledcabbages

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password must contain at
least one upper case character.

USER: 50DAMNboiledcabbages

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password cannot use more
than one upper case character consecutively.

USER: 50damnBoiledCabbagesShovedUpYourAss!

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password cannot contain
punctuation.

USER:

Really****edOff50DamnBoiledCabbagesShovedUp
YourAssIfYouDontGiveMeAccessNow

WINDOWS: Sorry, that password is already in use.




Senior? Stupid password rules affect most of us in exactly the same way.
It gets so bad sometimes that the only thing you can do is write them
down.

Puckdropper

I put them in a addon call Quicknote in Firefox. With them there I can
pop open Quicknote and copy the needed ID and password to the proper
space on the logon screen. It is much easier that having pieces of
paper spread around the area where you use you computer

On 7/18/2015 6:52 AM, knuttle wrote:
On 7/18/2015 3:54 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
Martin Eastburn wrote in news:CRjqx.254483
:

Thanks Lew!
I resemble the User from time to time.
Just tell me the xxx rules! Really.


[snip]


Senior? Stupid password rules affect most of us in exactly the same way.
It gets so bad sometimes that the only thing you can do is write them
down.

Puckdropper

I put them in a addon call Quicknote in Firefox. With them there I can
pop open Quicknote and copy the needed ID and password to the proper
space on the logon screen. It is much easier that having pieces of
paper spread around the area where you use you computer

Best damn password manager going is RoboForm. $19/year and you can sync
it to all devices you use and you only have to remember a master
password. Also functions as a great bookmark organizer, etc.

Financial password needed? It will automatically generate and save one
for you. How about "YJD4cIk3vEZ04^1kRMa$Co5"?

That'll keep your info safe.

Check it out, read the reviews from the computer "experts" and you'll
see what a deal it is. I'd be lost without it.

On 7/18/2015 7:52 AM, knuttle wrote:
On 7/18/2015 3:54 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
Martin Eastburn wrote in news:CRjqx.254483
:

Thanks Lew!
I resemble the User from time to time.
Just tell me the xxx rules! Really.

Martin

On 7/17/2015 7:40 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
Enjoy

Lew
-----------------------------------------------------


WINDOWS: Please enter your new password.

USER: cabbage

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password must be more
than 8 characters.

USER: boiled cabbage

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password must contain
1 numerical character.

USER: 1 boiled cabbage

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password cannot have
blank spaces.

USER: 50damnboiledcabbages

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password must contain at
least one upper case character.

USER: 50DAMNboiledcabbages

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password cannot use more
than one upper case character consecutively.

USER: 50damnBoiledCabbagesShovedUpYourAss!

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password cannot contain
punctuation.

USER:

Really****edOff50DamnBoiledCabbagesShovedUp
YourAssIfYouDontGiveMeAccessNow

WINDOWS: Sorry, that password is already in use.




Senior? Stupid password rules affect most of us in exactly the same way.
It gets so bad sometimes that the only thing you can do is write them
down.

Puckdropper

I put them in a addon call Quicknote in Firefox. With them there I can
pop open Quicknote and copy the needed ID and password to the proper
space on the logon screen. It is much easier that having pieces of
paper spread around the area where you use you computer

Try a utility called KeyPass. It's a good password vault.
You can do a lot of good password stuff with it.
You can create response code to automatically enter your password into
various systems.

You can have it create passwords, so your password varies from site to
site. Trust me, many companies are stupid about passwords, they store
them in clear text in a db.
--
Jeff

On 7/18/2015 10:00 AM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
On 7/18/2015 6:52 AM, knuttle wrote:
On 7/18/2015 3:54 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
Martin Eastburn wrote in news:CRjqx.254483
:

Thanks Lew!
I resemble the User from time to time.
Just tell me the xxx rules! Really.


[snip]


Senior? Stupid password rules affect most of us in exactly the same
way.
It gets so bad sometimes that the only thing you can do is write them
down.

Puckdropper

I put them in a addon call Quicknote in Firefox. With them there I can
pop open Quicknote and copy the needed ID and password to the proper
space on the logon screen. It is much easier that having pieces of
paper spread around the area where you use you computer

Best damn password manager going is RoboForm. $19/year and you can sync
it to all devices you use and you only have to remember a master
password. Also functions as a great bookmark organizer, etc.

Financial password needed? It will automatically generate and save one
for you. How about "YJD4cIk3vEZ04^1kRMa$Co5"?

That'll keep your info safe.

Check it out, read the reviews from the computer "experts" and you'll
see what a deal it is. I'd be lost without it.
Keepass is free.
It's a hell of a good program.

--
Jeff

On 7/18/2015 4:52 PM, woodchucker wrote:
On 7/18/2015 10:00 AM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
On 7/18/2015 6:52 AM, knuttle wrote:
On 7/18/2015 3:54 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
Martin Eastburn wrote in news:CRjqx.254483
:

Thanks Lew!

[snip]


Best damn password manager going is RoboForm. $19/year and you can sync
it to all devices you use and you only have to remember a master
password. Also functions as a great bookmark organizer, etc.

Financial password needed? It will automatically generate and save one
for you. How about "YJD4cIk3vEZ04^1kRMa$Co5"?

That'll keep your info safe.

Check it out, read the reviews from the computer "experts" and you'll
see what a deal it is. I'd be lost without it.
Keepass is free.
It's a hell of a good program.

Apples and oranges, Woodchucker.

Roboform works across multiple platforms Win/Android/Mac/iOS/Linux. Can
be used with storage in an encrypted local DB (like Keepass) but most,
including moi, utilize the utility of being able to store your encrypted
password DB in a "secure" cloud and have it constantly syncing with your
various devices. Is the difference in utility worth $19/year? Depends
on what you use it for. I use much of its utility and with 1,100
bookmarks alone (easily searchable) that I use in my work, it is
obviously a must have for me.

One thing I would be a bit leery of is its track record. It appears
that Keepass has only been available for less than one year whereas
Roboform has been "use tested" and evaluated for, I think, ten years or
more.

Not saying Keepass is not as good, but it takes some seasoning before
I'll put a lot of trust in it and prefer the utility of Roboform

In any event, if you conduct business over the internet, a password
keeper of some sort is a no-brainer. A different, exceedingly
difficult/lengthy password for each financial account is smart.
Password keepers allow for this and make it easy to stay safe.

Lucky you. I printed out the passwords from Firefox and it was 4 pages
of one lines. I have a 3/4" binder of passwords. Been using them for
40 years. I learned a long time ago not to use several and mix them.
One or two hacks and all is lost.

Martin

On 7/18/2015 6:52 AM, knuttle wrote:
On 7/18/2015 3:54 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
Martin Eastburn wrote in news:CRjqx.254483
:

Thanks Lew!
I resemble the User from time to time.
Just tell me the xxx rules! Really.

Martin

On 7/17/2015 7:40 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
Enjoy

Lew
-----------------------------------------------------


WINDOWS: Please enter your new password.

USER: cabbage

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password must be more
than 8 characters.

USER: boiled cabbage

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password must contain
1 numerical character.

USER: 1 boiled cabbage

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password cannot have
blank spaces.

USER: 50damnboiledcabbages

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password must contain at
least one upper case character.

USER: 50DAMNboiledcabbages

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password cannot use more
than one upper case character consecutively.

USER: 50damnBoiledCabbagesShovedUpYourAss!

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password cannot contain
punctuation.

USER:

Really****edOff50DamnBoiledCabbagesShovedUp
YourAssIfYouDontGiveMeAccessNow

WINDOWS: Sorry, that password is already in use.




Senior? Stupid password rules affect most of us in exactly the same way.
It gets so bad sometimes that the only thing you can do is write them
down.

Puckdropper

I put them in a addon call Quicknote in Firefox. With them there I can
pop open Quicknote and copy the needed ID and password to the proper
space on the logon screen. It is much easier that having pieces of
paper spread around the area where you use you computer

Sync - send to the cloud for someone to hack. Tricky stuff.

Martin I use multiple colors in my ink well. Each time I refill I'll
pick a different color. From red to peacock blue Navy to black. Complex
color is developed and is different but can be identified. Security.

Martin

On 7/18/2015 9:00 AM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
On 7/18/2015 6:52 AM, knuttle wrote:
On 7/18/2015 3:54 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
Martin Eastburn wrote in news:CRjqx.254483
:

Thanks Lew!
I resemble the User from time to time.
Just tell me the xxx rules! Really.


[snip]


Senior? Stupid password rules affect most of us in exactly the same
way.
It gets so bad sometimes that the only thing you can do is write them
down.

Puckdropper

I put them in a addon call Quicknote in Firefox. With them there I can
pop open Quicknote and copy the needed ID and password to the proper
space on the logon screen. It is much easier that having pieces of
paper spread around the area where you use you computer

Best damn password manager going is RoboForm. $19/year and you can sync
it to all devices you use and you only have to remember a master
password. Also functions as a great bookmark organizer, etc.

Financial password needed? It will automatically generate and save one
for you. How about "YJD4cIk3vEZ04^1kRMa$Co5"?

That'll keep your info safe.

Check it out, read the reviews from the computer "experts" and you'll
see what a deal it is. I'd be lost without it.

On 7/18/2015 11:01 PM, Martin Eastburn wrote:
Sync - send to the cloud for someone to hack. Tricky stuff.

Martin I use multiple colors in my ink well. Each time I refill I'll
pick a different color. From red to peacock blue Navy to black. Complex
color is developed and is different but can be identified. Security.


People get carried away with this password thing. There are some areas
where you must have a very secure passwords, and others where it does
not matter.

Those that must have a very secure passwords are those that has to do
with your money or assess. With these sites you do not want anyone else
to have access. Buy even with these, there are ones that are more
critical than others. Any site where you can add or subtract from your
assets are more critical than those where you can only review your
assets. If some one gets into these sites, your world could literally
end, as you try to recoupe your losses.

Email would be the next most serious, but unless you are working on a
replacement for gasoline, if some one gets into it, the consequences
would only be a major hassel.

Then there are the sites where the password is more for the site to
control access, than it is for your account security. Does it really
matter if someone uses your password to get into your Garden Web site.
Is it really going to be that big of disaster to access the news site of
your favorite newspaper? What about using you password to get into the
local genealogy site?

The security of the password must be gaged to the sensitivity of the
data that is available on the site.

On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 22:01:32 -0500, Martin Eastburn
wrote:

Sync - send to the cloud for someone to hack. Tricky stuff.

+1

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/lastpass...anager-hacked/

On 7/19/2015 7:10 AM, Spalted Walt wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 22:01:32 -0500, Martin Eastburn
wrote:

Sync - send to the cloud for someone to hack. Tricky stuff.

+1

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/lastpass...anager-hacked/




From the article:

Users most in danger of being personally hacked as a result of the
breach, first detected Friday, are those who have committed one or both
of these two cardinal sins of online safety: using a weak master
password and reusing that password on multiple sites.


Bottom line is the cloud stored password files from LastPass, et al are
safe unless you are not using a modicum of common sense which, as we all
know, isn't...g

In article ,
says...

On 7/19/2015 7:10 AM, Spalted Walt wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 22:01:32 -0500, Martin Eastburn
wrote:

Sync - send to the cloud for someone to hack. Tricky stuff.

+1

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/lastpass...anager-hacked/




From the article:

Users most in danger of being personally hacked as a result of the
breach, first detected Friday, are those who have committed one or both
of these two cardinal sins of online safety: using a weak master
password and reusing that password on multiple sites.


Bottom line is the cloud stored password files from LastPass, et al are
safe unless you are not using a modicum of common sense which, as we all
know, isn't...g

If it really has to be secure you need more than one means of securing
it. The old saying is "something you know, something you have,
something you are". The most secure systems use all three. My employer
uses two. I got a letter from my bank a few weeks ago saying that they
were going to be sending me a smart card in the near future, so things
are moving in that direction, slowly.

Unquestionably Confused wrote:
On 7/18/2015 4:52 PM, woodchucker wrote:
On 7/18/2015 10:00 AM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
On 7/18/2015 6:52 AM, knuttle wrote:
On 7/18/2015 3:54 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
Martin Eastburn wrote in news:CRjqx.254483
:

Thanks Lew!

[snip]


Best damn password manager going is RoboForm. $19/year and you can sync
it to all devices you use and you only have to remember a master
password. Also functions as a great bookmark organizer, etc.

Financial password needed? It will automatically generate and save one
for you. How about "YJD4cIk3vEZ04^1kRMa$Co5"?

That'll keep your info safe.

Check it out, read the reviews from the computer "experts" and you'll
see what a deal it is. I'd be lost without it.
Keepass is free.
It's a hell of a good program.

Apples and oranges, Woodchucker.

Roboform works across multiple platforms Win/Android/Mac/iOS/Linux. Can
be used with storage in an encrypted local DB (like Keepass) but most,
including moi, utilize the utility of being able to store your encrypted
password DB in a "secure" cloud and have it constantly syncing with your
various devices. Is the difference in utility worth $19/year? Depends
on what you use it for. I use much of its utility and with 1,100
bookmarks alone (easily searchable) that I use in my work, it is
obviously a must have for me.

One thing I would be a bit leery of is its track record. It appears that
Keepass has only been available for less than one year whereas Roboform
has been "use tested" and evaluated for, I think, ten years or more.


I use roboform. I have been using it for 10+ years and I remember it in
the 90's, IIRC.

so true.......
It is time we find a way to do away with passwords......
john

"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
eb.com...

Enjoy

Lew
-----------------------------------------------------


WINDOWS: Please enter your new password.

USER: cabbage

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password must be more
than 8 characters.

USER: boiled cabbage

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password must contain
1 numerical character.

USER: 1 boiled cabbage

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password cannot have
blank spaces.

USER: 50damnboiledcabbages

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password must contain at
least one upper case character.

USER: 50DAMNboiledcabbages

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password cannot use more
than one upper case character consecutively.

USER: 50damnBoiledCabbagesShovedUpYourAss!

WINDOWS: Sorry, the password cannot contain
punctuation.

USER:

Really****edOff50DamnBoiledCabbagesShovedUp
YourAssIfYouDontGiveMeAccessNow

WINDOWS: Sorry, that password is already in use.

Unquestionably Confused wrote:
On 7/19/2015 7:10 AM, Spalted Walt wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 22:01:32 -0500, Martin Eastburn

wrote:

Sync - send to the cloud for someone to hack. Tricky stuff.

+1

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/lastpass...anager-hacked/




From the article:

Users most in danger of being personally hacked as a result of the
breach, first detected Friday, are those who have committed one or
both of these two cardinal sins of online safety: using a weak master
password and reusing that password on multiple sites.


Bottom line is the cloud stored password files from LastPass, et al
are safe unless you are not using a modicum of common sense which, as
we all know, isn't...g

I think it smart not to use a password manager designed for the masses
(for the same reason people target the Windows OS when creating viruses).

On 7/18/2015 10:40 PM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
On 7/18/2015 4:52 PM, woodchucker wrote:
On 7/18/2015 10:00 AM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
On 7/18/2015 6:52 AM, knuttle wrote:
On 7/18/2015 3:54 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
Martin Eastburn wrote in
news:CRjqx.254483
:

Thanks Lew!

[snip]


Best damn password manager going is RoboForm. $19/year and you can sync
it to all devices you use and you only have to remember a master
password. Also functions as a great bookmark organizer, etc.

Financial password needed? It will automatically generate and save one
for you. How about "YJD4cIk3vEZ04^1kRMa$Co5"?

That'll keep your info safe.

Check it out, read the reviews from the computer "experts" and you'll
see what a deal it is. I'd be lost without it.
Keepass is free.
It's a hell of a good program.

Apples and oranges, Woodchucker.

Roboform works across multiple platforms Win/Android/Mac/iOS/Linux. Can
be used with storage in an encrypted local DB (like Keepass) but most,
including moi, utilize the utility of being able to store your encrypted
password DB in a "secure" cloud and have it constantly syncing with your
various devices. Is the difference in utility worth $19/year? Depends
on what you use it for. I use much of its utility and with 1,100
bookmarks alone (easily searchable) that I use in my work, it is
obviously a must have for me.

One thing I would be a bit leery of is its track record. It appears
that Keepass has only been available for less than one year whereas
Roboform has been "use tested" and evaluated for, I think, ten years or
more.
You are obvioulsy dazed an unquetionably confused. I have been using
Keepass for many years. The nice thing is not being cloud based. I don't
want a cloud based solution.


Not saying Keepass is not as good, but it takes some seasoning before
I'll put a lot of trust in it and prefer the utility of Roboform

In any event, if you conduct business over the internet, a password
keeper of some sort is a no-brainer. A different, exceedingly
difficult/lengthy password for each financial account is smart. Password
keepers allow for this and make it easy to stay safe.



--
Jeff

On 7/19/2015 1:45 PM, woodchucker wrote:
On 7/18/2015 10:40 PM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
On 7/18/2015 4:52 PM, woodchucker wrote:
On 7/18/2015 10:00 AM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
On 7/18/2015 6:52 AM, knuttle wrote:
On 7/18/2015 3:54 AM, Puckdropper wrote:
Martin Eastburn wrote in
news:CRjqx.254483
:

Thanks Lew!

[snip]


Best damn password manager going is RoboForm. $19/year and you can
sync
it to all devices you use and you only have to remember a master
password. Also functions as a great bookmark organizer, etc.

Financial password needed? It will automatically generate and save one
for you. How about "YJD4cIk3vEZ04^1kRMa$Co5"?

That'll keep your info safe.

Check it out, read the reviews from the computer "experts" and you'll
see what a deal it is. I'd be lost without it.
Keepass is free.
It's a hell of a good program.

Apples and oranges, Woodchucker.

Roboform works across multiple platforms Win/Android/Mac/iOS/Linux. Can
be used with storage in an encrypted local DB (like Keepass) but most,
including moi, utilize the utility of being able to store your encrypted
password DB in a "secure" cloud and have it constantly syncing with your
various devices. Is the difference in utility worth $19/year? Depends
on what you use it for. I use much of its utility and with 1,100
bookmarks alone (easily searchable) that I use in my work, it is
obviously a must have for me.

One thing I would be a bit leery of is its track record. It appears
that Keepass has only been available for less than one year whereas
Roboform has been "use tested" and evaluated for, I think, ten years or
more.
You are obvioulsy dazed an unquetionably confused. I have been using
Keepass for many years. The nice thing is not being cloud based. I don't
want a cloud based solution.


FWIW Roboform can be used with "OUT" cloud based integration, that
flavor is what I use and it is basically a one time fee until you need
to upgrade, like most all other software.

On 7/19/2015 2:45 PM, woodchucker wrote:

You are obvioulsy dazed an unquetionably confused. I have been using
Keepass for many years. The nice thing is not being cloud based. I don't
want a cloud based solution.

Amen to that. I'm still confused why many people use cloud base
programs. Many cloud base programs get hacked and you can bet password
programs are on the list of hackers.

I don't use cloud anything and I'm fine with doing everything on my own.

In article , says...

On 7/19/2015 2:45 PM, woodchucker wrote:

You are obvioulsy dazed an unquetionably confused. I have been using
Keepass for many years. The nice thing is not being cloud based. I don't
want a cloud based solution.

Amen to that. I'm still confused why many people use cloud base
programs. Many cloud base programs get hacked and you can bet password
programs are on the list of hackers.

I don't use cloud anything and I'm fine with doing everything on my own.

People use the cloud mostly because they want the same data to be
accessible on their PC and their smartphone.

Those of us who don't use smartphones don't get much benefit from it.
The rest of us do.

I at one time had occasion to make extensive use of Microsoft OneDrive,
and found it very convenient for the purpose--the neatest, and scariest
thing about it was that if I needed a file from my machine at home, I
could go into it from work and get the file--not into what was on the
cloud, but any file on the machine that was available to the username
under which I had logged in.

Now I don't really use it much at all--on the new job everything work
related is done on the company machine (actually it's mostly done on a
mainframe--not a PC server but the real deal) and the home machine is
for play again.

Back when I was helping people look for jobs, I did show people how to
use Google Drive mostly because they kept losing the flash drives with
their resumes on them. I should have looked into cloud-based password
banks--they had to remember a password for every employer to whom they
applied and it was frustrating for everyone when they forgot one--with
the password bank the password and login for that could have gone in
their file and the rest into the password bank.

I'm just thinking out loud here by the way, not really advocating this
or that.

On 7/19/2015 7:32 PM, Meanie wrote:
On 7/19/2015 2:45 PM, woodchucker wrote:

You are obvioulsy dazed an unquetionably confused. I have been using
Keepass for many years. The nice thing is not being cloud based. I don't
want a cloud based solution.

Amen to that. I'm still confused why many people use cloud base
programs. Many cloud base programs get hacked and you can bet password
programs are on the list of hackers.

Because 99.99999% of the people using the cloud based program are of
absolutely no interest to the hackers. The instant you connect to the
internet, your whole computer is vulnerable, if a hacker thinks that
what you have is of any value to him. It is very likely that cloud
based set ups are much more secure and harder to get into than your
computer at home.


I don't use cloud anything and I'm fine with doing everything on my own.

If that makes you feel better that is all that counts.

On 7/20/2015 10:21 AM, Leon wrote:
On 7/19/2015 7:32 PM, Meanie wrote:
On 7/19/2015 2:45 PM, woodchucker wrote:

You are obvioulsy dazed an unquetionably confused. I have been using
Keepass for many years. The nice thing is not being cloud based. I don't
want a cloud based solution.

Amen to that. I'm still confused why many people use cloud base
programs. Many cloud base programs get hacked and you can bet password
programs are on the list of hackers.

Because 99.99999% of the people using the cloud based program are of
absolutely no interest to the hackers. The instant you connect to the
internet, your whole computer is vulnerable, if a hacker thinks that
what you have is of any value to him. It is very likely that cloud
based set ups are much more secure and harder to get into than your
computer at home.


Don't be so sure of that. Good hackers can find basic info fast and if
cloud users store credit card numbers, for instance, a hacker can
purchase much before it's noticed.

http://www.businessnewsdaily.com/521...computing.html

http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles...g-as-you-think

On 7/20/2015 4:33 PM, Meanie wrote:
On 7/20/2015 10:21 AM, Leon wrote:
On 7/19/2015 7:32 PM, Meanie wrote:
On 7/19/2015 2:45 PM, woodchucker wrote:

You are obvioulsy dazed an unquetionably confused. I have been using
Keepass for many years. The nice thing is not being cloud based. I
don't
want a cloud based solution.

Amen to that. I'm still confused why many people use cloud base
programs. Many cloud base programs get hacked and you can bet password
programs are on the list of hackers.

Because 99.99999% of the people using the cloud based program are of
absolutely no interest to the hackers. The instant you connect to the
internet, your whole computer is vulnerable, if a hacker thinks that
what you have is of any value to him. It is very likely that cloud
based set ups are much more secure and harder to get into than your
computer at home.


Don't be so sure of that. Good hackers can find basic info fast and if
cloud users store credit card numbers, for instance, a hacker can
purchase much before it's noticed.

http://www.businessnewsdaily.com/521...computing.html

http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles...g-as-you-think



There will always be that .00001% that get hacked with something to
loose. There are bigger fish in the sea than me.