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O.T. No role for ground troops in Iraq
Friday, May 22, 2015: Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton speaks to reporters after a round table discussion at Smuttynose Brewery, in Hampton, N.H. (AP) On Friday, she said the U.S. should stay its course, not expand it. "American air support is available, American intelligence and surveillance is available, American trainers are trying to undo the damage that was done to the Iraqi army by former Prime Minister Maliki, who bears a very big part of the responsibility for what is happening inside Iraq today," she said. "But at the end of the thought process that I engage in ... this has to be fought by and won by the Iraqis. There is no role whatsoever for American soldiers on the ground to go back other than in the capacity as trainers and advisers." And that was music to a lot or ears. She may not be saying much, but when she does speak it is what a lot of people want to hear. |
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Jerry Osage wrote:
Friday, May 22, 2015: Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton speaks to reporters after a round table discussion at Smuttynose Brewery, in Hampton, N.H. (AP) On Friday, she said the U.S. should stay its course, not expand it. "American air support is available, American intelligence and surveillance is available, American trainers are trying to undo the damage that was done to the Iraqi army by former Prime Minister Maliki, who bears a very big part of the responsibility for what is happening inside Iraq today," she said. "But at the end of the thought process that I engage in ... this has to be fought by and won by the Iraqis. There is no role whatsoever for American soldiers on the ground to go back other than in the capacity as trainers and advisers." And that was music to a lot or ears. She may not be saying much, but when she does speak it is what a lot of people want to hear. Yup, She tells you what you want to hear. But, she does not often do what you want to hear. |
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On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 1:14:07 AM UTC-5, wrote:
Friday, May 22, 2015: Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton speaks to reporters after a round table discussion at Smuttynose Brewery, in Hampton, N.H. (AP) On Friday, she said the U.S. should stay its course, not expand it. "American air support is available, American intelligence and surveillance is available, American trainers are trying to undo the damage that was done to the Iraqi army by former Prime Minister Maliki, who bears a very big part of the responsibility for what is happening inside Iraq today," she said. "But at the end of the thought process that I engage in ... this has to be fought by and won by the Iraqis. There is no role whatsoever for American soldiers on the ground to go back other than in the capacity as trainers and advisers." And that was music to a lot or ears. She may not be saying much, but when she does speak it is what a lot of people want to hear. American air support is really not available. When you compare the last time we moved in and just provided air support and what we are doing this time, you can see just how much of a token our current efforts are. Back in Bosina we were flying 10,000, or more, sorties a month. Now we do good to do a hundred in a week, usually much less. |
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O.T. No role for ground troops in Iraq
Jerry Osage wrote in :
"But at the end of the thought process that I engage in ... this has to be fought by and won by the Iraqis. There is no role whatsoever for American soldiers on the ground to go back other than in the capacity as trainers and advisers." Well, I'd agree with that. If the Iraqis are unwilling to fight for their own country (which has been the case so far, excepting the Kurds), then there's no reason for Americans to fight for it. Interesting that Clinton is expressing the exact same position as Ron Paul, even tho they're on opposite ends of the political spectrum. John |
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O.T. No role for ground troops in Iraq
On Sun, 24 May 2015 04:18:49 -0500, Leon wrote:
Jerry Osage wrote: Friday, May 22, 2015: Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton speaks to reporters after a round table discussion at Smuttynose Brewery, in Hampton, N.H. (AP) On Friday, she said the U.S. should stay its course, not expand it. "American air support is available, American intelligence and surveillance is available, American trainers are trying to undo the damage that was done to the Iraqi army by former Prime Minister Maliki, who bears a very big part of the responsibility for what is happening inside Iraq today," she said. "But at the end of the thought process that I engage in ... this has to be fought by and won by the Iraqis. There is no role whatsoever for American soldiers on the ground to go back other than in the capacity as trainers and advisers." And that was music to a lot or ears. She may not be saying much, but when she does speak it is what a lot of people want to hear. Yup, She tells you what you want to hear. But, she does not often do what you want to hear. Sorry, I posted this to the wrong group. However, since I managed to do that, let me say that I think that there is actually a good chance that the country will elect her no matter what she says or has done in the past. Jerry O. |
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On Sun, 24 May 2015 14:07:48 +0000 (UTC), John McCoy
wrote: Jerry Osage wrote in : "But at the end of the thought process that I engage in ... this has to be fought by and won by the Iraqis. There is no role whatsoever for American soldiers on the ground to go back other than in the capacity as trainers and advisers." Well, I'd agree with that. If the Iraqis are unwilling to fight for their own country (which has been the case so far, excepting the Kurds), then there's no reason for Americans to fight for it. Interesting that Clinton is expressing the exact same position as Ron Paul, even tho they're on opposite ends of the political spectrum. John Again, sorry, I posted to the wrong group. I also agree, and I think that this position is a common sense position that transcends political positions for a lot of people. Jerry O. |
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O.T. No role for ground troops in Iraq
On 5/24/2015 9:07 AM, John McCoy wrote:
Jerry Osage wrote in : "But at the end of the thought process that I engage in ... this has to be fought by and won by the Iraqis. There is no role whatsoever for American soldiers on the ground to go back other than in the capacity as trainers and advisers." Well, I'd agree with that. If the Iraqis are unwilling to fight for their own country (which has been the case so far, excepting the Kurds), then there's no reason for Americans to fight for it. Interesting that Clinton is expressing the exact same position as Ron Paul, even tho they're on opposite ends of the political spectrum. All politicians will align their strategies to get elected. Then it is every man for him self when we have to deal with the changed agenda after they are elected. |
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Jerry Osage wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2015 04:18:49 -0500, Leon wrote: Jerry Osage wrote: Friday, May 22, 2015: Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton speaks to reporters after a round table discussion at Smuttynose Brewery, in Hampton, N.H. (AP) On Friday, she said the U.S. should stay its course, not expand it. "American air support is available, American intelligence and surveillance is available, American trainers are trying to undo the damage that was done to the Iraqi army by former Prime Minister Maliki, who bears a very big part of the responsibility for what is happening inside Iraq today," she said. "But at the end of the thought process that I engage in ... this has to be fought by and won by the Iraqis. There is no role whatsoever for American soldiers on the ground to go back other than in the capacity as trainers and advisers." And that was music to a lot or ears. She may not be saying much, but when she does speak it is what a lot of people want to hear. Yup, She tells you what you want to hear. But, she does not often do what you want to hear. Sorry, I posted this to the wrong group. However, since I managed to do that, let me say that I think that there is actually a good chance that the country will elect her no matter what she says or has done in the past. Jerry O. I pray to GOD that Trey Gowdy tears her to shreds and I pray to GOD you're WRONG |
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O.T. No role for ground troops in Iraq
On Sun, 24 May 2015 12:53:04 -0500, Leon wrote:
Interesting that Clinton is expressing the exact same position as Ron Paul, even tho they're on opposite ends of the political spectrum. All politicians will align their strategies to get elected. Then it is every man for him self when we have to deal with the changed agenda after they are elected. That's for sure - and they'll all go for a popular position! I do think Ron Paul probably means it, but I've been fooled before. |
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