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Good deal on 10" Handscrews
10" handscrews $6.85 each.
http://www.rockler.com/wooden-handscrew-clamps-clamps Free shipping over $25 (through 1/26 only) Promo code: V2677 I already have their 12" and 8" models. They seem to be of decent quality. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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"Baxter" wrote in message
... Greg Guarino wrote in : 10" handscrews $6.85 each. http://www.rockler.com/wooden-handscrew-clamps-clamps Free shipping over $25 (through 1/26 only) Promo code: V2677 I already have their 12" and 8" models. They seem to be of decent quality. http://www.harborfreight.com/10-in-h...amp-60549.html Also decent quality (not that I have much to compare) I have 4 of the 10" from HF and they are many years old with no issues. On the other hand that means they were purchased from pre-Junior inventory. I've found all post-Junior inventory requires a double and triple check before purchasing. |
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Good deal on 10" Handscrews
Bob La Londe wrote:
I have 4 of the 10" from HF and they are many years old with no issues. On the other hand that means they were purchased from pre-Junior inventory. I've found all post-Junior inventory requires a double and triple check before purchasing. Pardon my ignorance here, but I buy a fair amount from HF and I've never heard the phrases pre-Junior and post-Junior. Nor have I seen any decrease in quality - in fact I've seen an increase in quality. So - I'm confused by this post. -- -Mike- |
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On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 17:47:20 -0700
"Bob La Londe" wrote: I have 4 of the 10" from HF and they are many years old with no issues. On the other hand that means they were purchased from pre-Junior inventory. I've found all post-Junior inventory requires a double and triple check before purchasing. What's/who's Junior? I don't think I've ever bought anything from HF. So I go elsewhere to buy junk or get free junk. |
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Good deal on 10" Handscrews
Electric Comet wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 17:47:20 -0700 "Bob La Londe" wrote: I have 4 of the 10" from HF and they are many years old with no issues. On the other hand that means they were purchased from pre-Junior inventory. I've found all post-Junior inventory requires a double and triple check before purchasing. What's/who's Junior? I don't think I've ever bought anything from HF. So I go elsewhere to buy junk or get free junk. You should probably look at a lot of posts here from very knowlegable people, who do buy from HF. Junk? Ok - if you say so, then that's what you'll believe. -- -Mike- |
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On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 21:58:23 -0500
"Mike Marlow" wrote: You should probably look at a lot of posts here from very knowlegable people, who do buy from HF. Junk? Ok - if you say so, then that's what you'll believe. Good/bad/great/junk, doesn't matter I don't buy from hf I just wanna know what happened pre and post junior I've stated this before, wait you don't read all my posts dang it anyway HF used to be real crap I understand the quality has gone up and I've said this before the quality has gone up because the chinese have figured a lot of stuff out through trial-and-error they used to make complete crap bicycles but now they can make a very high quality bicycle this same scenario has percolated every which way into the things they make, so no surprise, (did I mention i said this before) that hf quality has improved do you work for hf or are you affiated or do you just invest in them, er, I mean buy from them I never got into what things are right to own and what's wrong to own. If you like your sears table saw that's great if you like your hf drill press, great it's what comes out the other side of the tool that counts |
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Electric Comet wrote:
Good/bad/great/junk, doesn't matter I don't buy from hf Personal choice - you're entitled to that. I just wanna know what happened pre and post junior So do I - the other poster who used that term is the first person I've ever heard use it. I've stated this before, wait you don't read all my posts dang it Sure I do. the quality has gone up because the chinese have figured a lot of stuff out through trial-and-error ....and they've gotten a lot of our (and other's) engineering since they became the world's manufacturing center this same scenario has percolat they used to make complete crap bicycles but now they can make a very high quality bicycle do you work for hf or are you affiated or do you just invest in them, er, I mean buy from them Nope - no association with them. I do buy stuff from them but not exclusively it's what comes out the other side of the tool that counts Completely true -- -Mike- |
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On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 7:32:27 AM UTC-5, Mike Marlow wrote:
Electric Comet wrote: Good/bad/great/junk, doesn't matter I don't buy from hf Personal choice - you're entitled to that. I just wanna know what happened pre and post junior So do I - the other poster who used that term is the first person I've ever heard use it. See here for an explanation... http://www.vcstar.com/business/harbo...nts-of-looting |
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DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 7:32:27 AM UTC-5, Mike Marlow wrote: Electric Comet wrote: Good/bad/great/junk, doesn't matter I don't buy from hf Personal choice - you're entitled to that. I just wanna know what happened pre and post junior So do I - the other poster who used that term is the first person I've ever heard use it. See here for an explanation... http://www.vcstar.com/business/harbo...nts-of-looting Sad story - not because it has anything at all to do with Harbor Freight, but simply because of what it says about that family. -- -Mike- |
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On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 09:48:42 -0800 (PST)
DerbyDad03 wrote: See here for an explanation... http://www.vcstar.com/business/harbo...nts-of-looting No respect for his own dad/mom There's several hundred million reasons not buy hf |
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On 1/28/2015 4:59 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 09:48:42 -0800 (PST) DerbyDad03 wrote: See here for an explanation... http://www.vcstar.com/business/harbo...nts-of-looting No respect for his own dad/mom There's several hundred million reasons not buy hf No respect? That is putting it mildly. Really sleazy. |
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On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 07:35:49 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
wrote: Electric Comet wrote: Good/bad/great/junk, doesn't matter I don't buy from hf Personal choice - you're entitled to that. I just wanna know what happened pre and post junior So do I - the other poster who used that term is the first person I've ever heard use it. I've stated this before, wait you don't read all my posts dang it Sure I do. the quality has gone up because the chinese have figured a lot of stuff out through trial-and-error ...and they've gotten a lot of our (and other's) engineering since they became the world's manufacturing center this same scenario has percolat they used to make complete crap bicycles but now they can make a very high quality bicycle do you work for hf or are you affiated or do you just invest in them, er, I mean buy from them Nope - no association with them. I do buy stuff from them but not exclusively it's what comes out the other side of the tool that counts Completely true I have to agree with Mike Marlowe on this, I've bought total crap from them but other items turn out to be great values. I was hesitant to buy an auto darkening welding helmet from them, but his experience with his got me to give it a try and it works great, and probably saved me a couple hundred bucks. You just have to do your research and see how others have done. I'm sure we've all bought big name tools to find out hey are crap to! Mike M |
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"Mike Marlow" wrote in message
... Bob La Londe wrote: I have 4 of the 10" from HF and they are many years old with no issues. On the other hand that means they were purchased from pre-Junior inventory. I've found all post-Junior inventory requires a double and triple check before purchasing. Pardon my ignorance here, but I buy a fair amount from HF and I've never heard the phrases pre-Junior and post-Junior. Nor have I seen any decrease in quality - in fact I've seen an increase in quality. So - I'm confused by this post. Since the son did a hostile takeover of the company and had his dad escorted out of the building. I have noticed a huge reduction of selection and a drop in quality in the types of things I buy. Punch in lathe on their site search. Used to be 25 models of metal lathes alone. Now there are 3. Maybe 6 or 8 if you count wood lathes. The bigger ones were comparable or not much worse than some of the other low end importers like Enco. Same thing with mills. Now everybody expected to have to work on one of these machines to make them good. Now I expect to have to repair it first. HF has a lot of useable stuff, but lots of it needs to be double checked. Used to be I wouldn't hesitate to buy a set of taps and dies from them for throwing a service truck. It would only be H3 tolerance, but they would work. Last set I bought to toss in a service truck, half the dies were totally the wrong size. I didn't check any further. Just dropped it in a garbage barrel. I used to love the T-Handle hex wrenches from them too. Now they are so soft you can twist even some of the larger sizes. Same thing with pneumatics. I've some old air regulators from them that are bullet proof. Recently I added 2 new regulators to my shop air, and both failed in less than 60 days. I've got two HF bench sanders. I had to remachine the disc tables on both of them because they had so much wobble you couldn't hold a work piece up against them. My dad has a couple older ones that all he did was plug them in and use them. Maybe the tools you buy are better, but the ones I bought are mostly not. I still shop there, but I always plan trips to bring stuff back now. Anything that has to work I spend more money and buy it somewhere else. I've got a bunch of 12" bar clamps I use on my injection bench for molds that work great, so there are some good things still to be had there, but I will repeat myself. Check out everything carefully before buying and consider how critical it is that it works. I stand by that. HF used to have two things going for them. They were CHEAP and they had just about any odd ball tool you could need. It was a great place for a guy doing a single repair job who didn't need a tool to last a lifetime. Now they are just cheap. We can argue about quality until the cows come home, but based on my direct experience the overall quality is less. |
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On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 13:39:28 -0700
"Bob La Londe" wrote: I have noticed a huge reduction of selection and a drop in quality in the types of things I buy. Calling the son scum would be unfair to scum Jr's running her into the ground. The bean counter disease has set in and you can bet it won't get better, it rarely does Dad/mom had a vision and went with it, the kid didn't deserve a thing and we see the result They made a brand name and that ain't easy, jr's ****ing the name away |
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"Bob La Londe" wrote in
: *snip* HF used to have two things going for them. They were CHEAP and they had just about any odd ball tool you could need. It was a great place for a guy doing a single repair job who didn't need a tool to last a lifetime. Now they are just cheap. We can argue about quality until the cows come home, but based on my direct experience the overall quality is less. You know... that was kinda the thing. They had all kinds of neat things that made it worth the trip just for the looking. I'm much more familiar with their inventory now, so I don't know if there's less neat things or if I'm just used to seeing them. Puckdropper -- Make it to fit, don't make it fit. |
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Bob La Londe wrote:
Since the son did a hostile takeover of the company and had his dad escorted out of the building. Yeah - I did a little looking around and found articles on the idiot son's actions. What a shame... I have noticed a huge reduction of selection and a drop in quality in the types of things I buy. Wow - not here. I'm in HF on a regular basis and I haven't noticed any decrease in selection. Punch in lathe on their site search. Used to be 25 models of metal lathes alone. Now there are 3. Maybe 6 or 8 if you count wood lathes. The bigger ones were comparable or not much worse than some of the other low end importers like Enco. Same thing with mills. Now everybody expected to have to work on one of these machines to make them good. Now I expect to have to repair it first. That explains a bit - it appears to be a matter of what you're looking for and I wouldn't be looking for tools like that. HF has a lot of useable stuff, but lots of it needs to be double checked. Used to be I wouldn't hesitate to buy a set of taps and dies from them for throwing a service truck. It would only be H3 tolerance, but they would work. Last set I bought to toss in a service truck, half the dies were totally the wrong size. I didn't check any further. Just dropped it in a garbage barrel. I used to love the T-Handle hex wrenches from them too. Now they are so soft you can twist even some of the larger sizes. Two of the tools that I also bought from HF and have had great service out of them - much like your experience. I bought mine many years ago and have not had to replace them so I hadn't seen any changes in quality. I have had to replace a tap here and there, but those always seem to be of good quality. Same thing with pneumatics. I've some old air regulators from them that are bullet proof. Recently I added 2 new regulators to my shop air, and both failed in less than 60 days. Huh. I have a ton of their air regulators too, and again - mine are probably 10 years old or so, and like you say - they are bullet proof. I've got one on every one of my spray guns as well as some other pneumatic tools, and a couple in the cabinet as spares as well. I've got two HF bench sanders. I had to remachine the disc tables on both of them because they had so much wobble you couldn't hold a work piece up against them. My dad has a couple older ones that all he did was plug them in and use them. No experience with this tool though I do have their saw blade sharpener and their chainsaw sharpener - both worked right out of the box and work excellent. HF used to have two things going for them. They were CHEAP and they had just about any odd ball tool you could need. It was a great place for a guy doing a single repair job who didn't need a tool to last a lifetime. Now they are just cheap. We can argue about quality until the cows come home, but based on my direct experience the overall quality is less. I've always said that you had to be a little careful with HF - somethings just were not good. I believe that's still the case. I don't disagree with people who say that - I only disagree with those who make wholesale statements that HF stuff is just junk. I use too much of their stuff to know that such a statement is just not true. But - you do have to be careful... -- -Mike- |
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On Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 4:50:15 PM UTC-5, Puckdropper at dot wrote:
"Bob La Londe" wrote in : *snip* HF used to have two things going for them. They were CHEAP and they had just about any odd ball tool you could need. It was a great place for a guy doing a single repair job who didn't need a tool to last a lifetime. Now they are just cheap. We can argue about quality until the cows come home, but based on my direct experience the overall quality is less. You know... that was kinda the thing. They had all kinds of neat things that made it worth the trip just for the looking. I'm much more familiar with their inventory now, so I don't know if there's less neat things or if I'm just used to seeing them. I'm going with the "just used to seeing them" theory, at least based on my trips to either of the 2 (yes, 2!) HF stores in my area. The shelves are packed, the aisles are packed, the end caps, etc. Yes, I do notice that some of the same stuff is stacked in more than area (and sometimes with more than one price) but in general I have noticed no decrease in the number of different items. A disappointing thing I noticed just before Christmas: I bought a variable speed multi-function tool for the office gift exchange and found that it no longer came with a carrying case, just the cardboard box it comes in. The 4 I've bought over the last couple of years (gifts, etc) all came with cases. I don't know when they stopped, but that's a darn shame. |
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On Thu, 5 Feb 2015 11:58:57 -0800 (PST)
DerbyDad03 wrote: The shelves are packed, the aisles are packed, the end caps, etc. Not hf but there are stores in japan called Handsman they carry over 2 million. They have workshops you can use there if you need it. I saw a long show about them and I know someone that visited one while there. He was just killing some time but he said it would be real easy to get stuck there. like a time warp Via buying clout CEO was able to get manufacturers to sell parts for things sold in the store. a good idea that has paid off big box it comes in. The 4 I've bought over the last couple of years (gifts, etc) all came with cases. I don't know when they stopped, but that's a darn shame. when junior took over |
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