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whit3rd June 13th 14 07:56 PM

Can I bleach red oak so that it stains close to white oak?
 
On Friday, July 12, 2002 4:46:12 PM UTC-7, keith edward wrote:

I have some really nice white oak flooring that I picked up....
I can not seem to find white oak posts and rails that I can stain to
match the white oak floor.


So, thinking outside the box... instead of matching, maybe you should
accentuate the contrast? How about ebonizing the red oak?

Matching: hard. Contrast: easy.

[email protected] June 13th 14 11:22 PM

Can I bleach red oak so that it stains close to white oak?
 
On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 11:56:34 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd
wrote:

On Friday, July 12, 2002 4:46:12 PM UTC-7, keith edward wrote:

I have some really nice white oak flooring that I picked up....
I can not seem to find white oak posts and rails that I can stain to
match the white oak floor.


So, thinking outside the box... instead of matching, maybe you should
accentuate the contrast? How about ebonizing the red oak?

Matching: hard. Contrast: easy.

How about trying ash? The grain matches oak fairly well and is closer
to white oak than red from what I remember. My floor and my kitchen
cabinets are both "grey ash". Floor was stained, cabinets not.

EXT June 17th 14 12:48 AM

Can I bleach red oak so that it stains close to white oak?
 

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On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 11:56:34 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd
wrote:

On Friday, July 12, 2002 4:46:12 PM UTC-7, keith edward wrote:

I have some really nice white oak flooring that I picked up....
I can not seem to find white oak posts and rails that I can stain to
match the white oak floor.


So, thinking outside the box... instead of matching, maybe you should
accentuate the contrast? How about ebonizing the red oak?

Matching: hard. Contrast: easy.

How about trying ash? The grain matches oak fairly well and is closer
to white oak than red from what I remember. My floor and my kitchen
cabinets are both "grey ash". Floor was stained, cabinets not.


Yeah, get all the ash that you can before it is all dead from the long horn
beetle.


[email protected] June 17th 14 02:14 AM

Can I bleach red oak so that it stains close to white oak?
 
On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 19:48:41 -0400, "EXT"
wrote:


wrote in message
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On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 11:56:34 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd
wrote:

On Friday, July 12, 2002 4:46:12 PM UTC-7, keith edward wrote:

I have some really nice white oak flooring that I picked up....
I can not seem to find white oak posts and rails that I can stain to
match the white oak floor.

So, thinking outside the box... instead of matching, maybe you should
accentuate the contrast? How about ebonizing the red oak?

Matching: hard. Contrast: easy.

How about trying ash? The grain matches oak fairly well and is closer
to white oak than red from what I remember. My floor and my kitchen
cabinets are both "grey ash". Floor was stained, cabinets not.


Yeah, get all the ash that you can before it is all dead from the long horn
beetle.

There is a lot on the market right now because if you cut it before
it is dead the wood is still good, even if infected. Lots of places
are basically "clear cutting" ash ahead of the onslaught, trying to
stop the advance of the beatle.

Mike Marlow[_2_] June 17th 14 03:24 AM

Can I bleach red oak so that it stains close to white oak?
 
wrote:

There is a lot on the market right now because if you cut it before
it is dead the wood is still good, even if infected. Lots of places
are basically "clear cutting" ash ahead of the onslaught, trying to
stop the advance of the beatle.


I don't know how widespread this is, but I was talking to a logger recently
who told me the mills cannot receive ash from more than 50 miles away -
owing to the beetle. It's getting harder for loggers to sell off ash for
more than just firewood.

--

-Mike-




[email protected] June 17th 14 04:07 AM

Can I bleach red oak so that it stains close to white oak?
 
On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 22:24:37 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
wrote:

wrote:

There is a lot on the market right now because if you cut it before
it is dead the wood is still good, even if infected. Lots of places
are basically "clear cutting" ash ahead of the onslaught, trying to
stop the advance of the beatle.


I don't know how widespread this is, but I was talking to a logger recently
who told me the mills cannot receive ash from more than 50 miles away -
owing to the beetle. It's getting harder for loggers to sell off ash for
more than just firewood.

Here they just ship it south, where the beatle has already hit. Can't
even ship firewood north from here, but south is no problem because
basically all the ash south of here is already dead or infected.

John Grossbohlin[_4_] June 17th 14 04:27 AM

Can I bleach red oak so that it stains close to white oak?
 
wrote in message ...

On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 22:24:37 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
wrote:


wrote:

There is a lot on the market right now because if you cut it before
it is dead the wood is still good, even if infected. Lots of places
are basically "clear cutting" ash ahead of the onslaught, trying to
stop the advance of the beatle.


I don't know how widespread this is, but I was talking to a logger
recently
who told me the mills cannot receive ash from more than 50 miles away -
owing to the beetle. It's getting harder for loggers to sell off ash for
more than just firewood.

Here they just ship it south, where the beatle has already hit. Can't
even ship firewood north from here, but south is no problem because
basically all the ash south of here is already dead or infected.


Around here in upstate NY the Emerald Ash Borer is the problem... NYC DEP is
going to take down 4,000 trees near one of their upstate reservoirs, about
half of them ash.

There are distance restrictions for trucking to mills. Firewood is
restricted also. Some of the firewood dealers are looking to put in kilns to
dry the wood and kill all the insects so that they can service a wider area.
NYS DEC Forest Rangers are doing "firewood stings" at campgrounds looking
for wood that is outside of the regulations.








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