The system is rigged against an American.

I was speaking with the recruiter , he told me that generally H1's are
preferred because when they bring on an H1 it only costs them 4%, when
they have a W2 American it's 16%.

How's that for why I am not really wanted. They are offered more money
because there is more room to give them higher rates. So the company
hiring them keeps more, and the worker gets more.

How did our system get this messed up.

How F'd up.
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Jeff

On 5/7/2014 1:55 PM, woodchucker wrote:
The system is rigged against an American.

I was speaking with the recruiter , he told me that generally H1's are
preferred because when they bring on an H1 it only costs them 4%, when
they have a W2 American it's 16%.

How's that for why I am not really wanted. They are offered more money
because there is more room to give them higher rates. So the company
hiring them keeps more, and the worker gets more.

How did our system get this messed up.

How F'd up.

I had always been told that H1's pay SS, but maybe the company does not
pay the 7.05 or whatever it is these days.



--
Jeff

woodchucker writes:
The system is rigged against an American.

I was speaking with the recruiter , he told me that generally H1's are
preferred because when they bring on an H1 it only costs them 4%, when
they have a W2 American it's 16%.

How's that for why I am not really wanted. They are offered more money
because there is more room to give them higher rates. So the company
hiring them keeps more, and the worker gets more.

How did our system get this messed up.

How F'd up.

I wonder if that is regional? Out here in the silly valley, there are
no shortage of jobs for workers with the appropriate skillsets[*], american
or otherwise. Much of my team is over 40, too, with several recent hires
over 50. In my prior company (which I co-founded), we hired anyone that
would pass our technical screening procedure (a days worth of interviews)
which was quite rigorous. So long as the prospective employee was
employment-eligable (citizen or work-visa) and passed the tech
screen, they were offered the position. We had a good mix of green-card
holders and citizens (many first-gen) and a couple of H1's. We
also inherited a team in India and a small team in Beijing when we
purchased another company.

The CPOE (current place of employment) is a processor design company.
[*] That's the key, the skillset. For example, we need RTL designers,
Verification engineers, Processor architects, but not JAVA programmers.

On the other hand, a good friend who has been in the industry since the
mid 70's is having a hard time; he's a lab manager/rework specialist
and there aren't many large computer rooms left and everyone just throws
broken hardware away instead of fixing it.

"woodchucker" wrote:


The system is rigged against an American.
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Wake up and smell the posies.

At your age, your only shot you have is being hired as a contract
day laborer.

Otherwise, you become a self employed consultant and hope you
get picked up by one of your former employers.

In either case, no "bennies" and you pick up the full boat on S/S.


Lew

On 5/7/2014 2:43 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
woodchucker writes:
The system is rigged against an American.

I was speaking with the recruiter , he told me that generally H1's are
preferred because when they bring on an H1 it only costs them 4%, when
they have a W2 American it's 16%.

How's that for why I am not really wanted. They are offered more money
because there is more room to give them higher rates. So the company
hiring them keeps more, and the worker gets more.

How did our system get this messed up.

How F'd up.

I wonder if that is regional? Out here in the silly valley, there are
no shortage of jobs for workers with the appropriate skillsets[*], american
or otherwise. Much of my team is over 40, too, with several recent hires
over 50. In my prior company (which I co-founded), we hired anyone that
would pass our technical screening procedure (a days worth of interviews)
which was quite rigorous. So long as the prospective employee was
employment-eligable (citizen or work-visa) and passed the tech
screen, they were offered the position. We had a good mix of green-card
holders and citizens (many first-gen) and a couple of H1's. We
also inherited a team in India and a small team in Beijing when we
purchased another company.

The CPOE (current place of employment) is a processor design company.

[*] That's the key, the skillset. For example, we need RTL designers,
Verification engineers, Processor architects, but not JAVA programmers.

On the other hand, a good friend who has been in the industry since the
mid 70's is having a hard time; he's a lab manager/rework specialist
and there aren't many large computer rooms left and everyone just throws
broken hardware away instead of fixing it.


I doubt this is regional as the company that this person works for (I
can't mention the name) is a national company. And certainly if I can
get in, it would be skill set. But it's just getting to the first level.

I had a caller the other day ask me if I were a citizen, I said yes,
they said they would call me back in a few minutes. Right after asking.
They never called back.. basically they hung up on me.

Your company may be outside the norm. But take a look around.

I have worked at companies where I was the only American in very large
groups. I used to think they were making less, but that's not the case
anymore. I spoke to a recruiter the other day who told me I was very
reasonable in my expectations, the average Indian is asking for more.

Remember I am relating to my specialized field in the IT field. Which
has been pretty much taken over.

--
Jeff

On 5/7/2014 2:47 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
"woodchucker" wrote:


The system is rigged against an American.
snip
---------------------------------------------------
Wake up and smell the posies.

At your age, your only shot you have is being hired as a contract
day laborer.

Otherwise, you become a self employed consultant and hope you
get picked up by one of your former employers.

In either case, no "bennies" and you pick up the full boat on S/S.


Lew




Lew that's all I am trying for right now. I have given up on perm.. For
me they just don't exist. I can't find the perms.

I have had no bennies for years. They stopped offering them years ago,
around 2004-2005.

I probably should have gone back into programming, where there are some
opportunities. But I have been out of programming since 96 maybe. While
I do programming to support my job, it is not business programming,
rather to support getting my job done, and getting it done more efficiently.

--
Jeff