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While the end product is way over the top for my liking, he gets an A+ on
execution and craftsmanship. http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=sIMwkZpp6eY LUTHIER SPOTLIGHT Two years after enrolling in ESP's Guitar Craft Academy in 1990, Masao Ohmuro was asked to stay on as instructor. He continued teaching, and began building and repairing guitars for ESP shops and artists. |
ESP Custom Guitar Shop (was: More on glue)
On 12/12/2013 7:25 AM, Spalted Walt wrote:
While the end product is way over the top for my liking, he gets an A+ on execution and craftsmanship. http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=sIMwkZpp6eY It takes a lot of skill to make a guitar as unplayable as that one. Unmentioned was the poor ******* that had to spend a week fitting a case for it. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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On 12/13/2013 8:55 AM, Greg Guarino wrote:
It takes a lot of skill to make a guitar as unplayable as that one. Unmentioned was the poor ******* that had to spend a week fitting a case for it. Yep, the "Here, hold my beer and watch this" mentality strikes again. A concept completely lost on this culture ... just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. -- eWoodShop: www.eWoodShop.com Wood Shop: www.e-WoodShop.net google.com/+KarlCaillouet http://www.custommade.com/by/ewoodshop/ KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) |
ESP Custom Guitar Shop (was: More on glue)
On 12/12/2013 6:25 AM, Spalted Walt wrote:
While the end product is way over the top for my liking, he gets an A+ on execution and craftsmanship. http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=sIMwkZpp6eY LUTHIER SPOTLIGHT Two years after enrolling in ESP's Guitar Craft Academy in 1990, Masao Ohmuro was asked to stay on as instructor. He continued teaching, and began building and repairing guitars for ESP shops and artists. Let's present him a trophy for showing up. |
ESP Custom Guitar Shop (was: More on glue)
Greg Guarino wrote:
On 12/12/2013 7:25 AM, Spalted Walt wrote: While the end product is way over the top for my liking, he gets an A+ on execution and craftsmanship. http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=sIMwkZpp6eY It takes a lot of skill to make a guitar as unplayable as that one. Unmentioned was the poor ******* that had to spend a week fitting a case for it. I'm not sure (as a guitar player) that I see it as unplayable at all. Not my style ofr guitar for sure, but I don't see it as unplayable. As for the case - you're right brother! -- -Mike- |
ESP Custom Guitar Shop (was: More on glue)
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 09:55:28 -0500, Greg Guarino wrote:
It takes a lot of skill to make a guitar as unplayable as that one. Unmentioned was the poor ******* that had to spend a week fitting a case for it. Something tells me that's exactly what Gibson heard back in '58 when they introduced the Flying V: http://goo.gl/RGi83U |
ESP Custom Guitar Shop (was: More on glue)
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 09:05:24 -0600, Swingman wrote:
A concept completely lost on this culture ... just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. I'm guessing Abraham Roentgen heard about the same thing from many of his peers back in the day ;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKikHxKeodA |
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On 12/13/2013 10:48 AM, Spalted Walt wrote:
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 09:55:28 -0500, Greg Guarino wrote: It takes a lot of skill to make a guitar as unplayable as that one. Unmentioned was the poor ******* that had to spend a week fitting a case for it. Something tells me that's exactly what Gibson heard back in '58 when they introduced the Flying V: Repeat what I said earlier. ;) -- eWoodShop: www.eWoodShop.com Wood Shop: www.e-WoodShop.net google.com/+KarlCaillouet http://www.custommade.com/by/ewoodshop/ KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) |
ESP Custom Guitar Shop (was: More on glue)
On 12/13/2013 10:14 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Agreed (by the standards we embrace), but today's generation looks at things differently. They'll put up with whatever it takes or costs to get a case for that thing. I wouldn't and maybe you wouldn't but then again, he's not marketing to us. Why is it you rarely hear "today's music" on a commercial (AKA, marketing)? Answer: When "music" started being more about "appearances" than what was being played. -- eWoodShop: www.eWoodShop.com Wood Shop: www.e-WoodShop.net google.com/+KarlCaillouet http://www.custommade.com/by/ewoodshop/ KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) |
ESP Custom Guitar Shop (was: More on glue)
"Swingman" wrote: Why is it you rarely hear "today's music" on a commercial (AKA, marketing)? Answer: When "music" started being more about "appearances" than what was being played. ------------------------------------------ With Sinatra gone, after Bublee it's mostly all noise. Lew |
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Swingman wrote:
On 12/13/2013 10:14 AM, Mike Marlow wrote: Agreed (by the standards we embrace), but today's generation looks at things differently. They'll put up with whatever it takes or costs to get a case for that thing. I wouldn't and maybe you wouldn't but then again, he's not marketing to us. Why is it you rarely hear "today's music" on a commercial (AKA, marketing)? Answer: When "music" started being more about "appearances" than what was being played. No kidding! Blast a bunch of power chords and call it playing. Not that I'm against a hard sound and the use of power chords, but they are not my complete musical vocabulary. -- -Mike- |
ESP Custom Guitar Shop (was: More on glue)
On 12/13/2013 11:27 AM, Swingman wrote:
On 12/13/2013 10:14 AM, Mike Marlow wrote: Agreed (by the standards we embrace), but today's generation looks at things differently. They'll put up with whatever it takes or costs to get a case for that thing. I wouldn't and maybe you wouldn't but then again, he's not marketing to us. Why is it you rarely hear "today's music" on a commercial (AKA, marketing)? Answer: When "music" started being more about "appearances" than what was being played. Kim and I were talking about this yesterday while listening to Christmas songs. You still mostly hear Bing Crosby, Andy Williams, Dean Martin, Perry Como, Frank Sanatra. |
ESP Custom Guitar Shop (was: More on glue)
On 12/13/13, 11:27 AM, Swingman wrote:
On 12/13/2013 10:14 AM, Mike Marlow wrote: Agreed (by the standards we embrace), but today's generation looks at things differently. They'll put up with whatever it takes or costs to get a case for that thing. I wouldn't and maybe you wouldn't but then again, he's not marketing to us. Why is it you rarely hear "today's music" on a commercial (AKA, marketing)? Answer: When "music" started being more about "appearances" than what was being played. And when was that? 1940s? 50s? -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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On 12/13/2013 11:34 AM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
"Swingman" wrote: Why is it you rarely hear "today's music" on a commercial (AKA, marketing)? Answer: When "music" started being more about "appearances" than what was being played. ------------------------------------------ With Sinatra gone, after Bublee it's mostly all noise. There has always been more crappy music than the good stuff. You just have to look in the right places. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-Lp2uC_1lg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DB31doPluY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqSaUCb-L_U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVH77iNRRVw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZY_iBRfn3U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV-Z1YwaOiw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQe3DKDQRRs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHqyRNNYRRw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiOcW_YR1G8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuolrdEeSL0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZgGKE1TovU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-C-IbkuNWs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su6KjZs3aqM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_9HdZwf60U |
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On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 14:09:04 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote: On 12/13/2013 11:27 AM, Swingman wrote: On 12/13/2013 10:14 AM, Mike Marlow wrote: Agreed (by the standards we embrace), but today's generation looks at things differently. They'll put up with whatever it takes or costs to get a case for that thing. I wouldn't and maybe you wouldn't but then again, he's not marketing to us. Why is it you rarely hear "today's music" on a commercial (AKA, marketing)? Answer: When "music" started being more about "appearances" than what was being played. Kim and I were talking about this yesterday while listening to Christmas songs. You still mostly hear Bing Crosby, Andy Williams, Dean Martin, Perry Como, Frank Sanatra. Mannheim Steamroller, The Real Group,... ;-) |
ESP Custom Guitar Shop (was: More on glue)
wrote:
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 14:09:04 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 12/13/2013 11:27 AM, Swingman wrote: On 12/13/2013 10:14 AM, Mike Marlow wrote: Agreed (by the standards we embrace), but today's generation looks at things differently. They'll put up with whatever it takes or costs to get a case for that thing. I wouldn't and maybe you wouldn't but then again, he's not marketing to us. Why is it you rarely hear "today's music" on a commercial (AKA, marketing)? Answer: When "music" started being more about "appearances" than what was being played. Kim and I were talking about this yesterday while listening to Christmas songs. You still mostly hear Bing Crosby, Andy Williams, Dean Martin, Perry Como, Frank Sanatra. Mannheim Steamroller, The Real Group,... ;-) Trans Siberian Orchestra! -- -Mike- |
ESP Custom Guitar Shop (was: More on glue)
"Mike Marlow" wrote:
wrote: On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 14:09:04 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 12/13/2013 11:27 AM, Swingman wrote: On 12/13/2013 10:14 AM, Mike Marlow wrote: Agreed (by the standards we embrace), but today's generation looks at things differently. They'll put up with whatever it takes or costs to get a case for that thing. I wouldn't and maybe you wouldn't but then again, he's not marketing to us. Why is it you rarely hear "today's music" on a commercial (AKA, marketing)? Answer: When "music" started being more about "appearances" than what was being played. Kim and I were talking about this yesterday while listening to Christmas songs. You still mostly hear Bing Crosby, Andy Williams, Dean Martin, Perry Como, Frank Sanatra. Mannheim Steamroller, The Real Group,... ;-) Trans Siberian Orchestra! LOL. I immediately thought of that one too as being the modern day group, but IIRC there are no vocals. |
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Leon wrote:
"Mike Marlow" wrote: wrote: On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 14:09:04 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 12/13/2013 11:27 AM, Swingman wrote: On 12/13/2013 10:14 AM, Mike Marlow wrote: Agreed (by the standards we embrace), but today's generation looks at things differently. They'll put up with whatever it takes or costs to get a case for that thing. I wouldn't and maybe you wouldn't but then again, he's not marketing to us. Why is it you rarely hear "today's music" on a commercial (AKA, marketing)? Answer: When "music" started being more about "appearances" than what was being played. Kim and I were talking about this yesterday while listening to Christmas songs. You still mostly hear Bing Crosby, Andy Williams, Dean Martin, Perry Como, Frank Sanatra. Mannheim Steamroller, The Real Group,... ;-) Trans Siberian Orchestra! LOL. I immediately thought of that one too as being the modern day group, but IIRC there are no vocals. Yeah - there are. In fact (I just recently learned...) one of the original concepts was to build a rock band with 18 vocal soloists. -- -Mike- |
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On 12/14/2013 7:38 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Leon wrote: "Mike Marlow" wrote: wrote: On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 14:09:04 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 12/13/2013 11:27 AM, Swingman wrote: On 12/13/2013 10:14 AM, Mike Marlow wrote: Agreed (by the standards we embrace), but today's generation looks at things differently. They'll put up with whatever it takes or costs to get a case for that thing. I wouldn't and maybe you wouldn't but then again, he's not marketing to us. Why is it you rarely hear "today's music" on a commercial (AKA, marketing)? Answer: When "music" started being more about "appearances" than what was being played. Kim and I were talking about this yesterday while listening to Christmas songs. You still mostly hear Bing Crosby, Andy Williams, Dean Martin, Perry Como, Frank Sanatra. Mannheim Steamroller, The Real Group,... ;-) Trans Siberian Orchestra! LOL. I immediately thought of that one too as being the modern day group, but IIRC there are no vocals. Yeah - there are. In fact (I just recently learned...) one of the original concepts was to build a rock band with 18 vocal soloists. Ok, I'll take your word for that. It is a group that my son listens to, not a bad group at all but not one I would normally. Sometimes with lots of vocals in a band the voices tend to sound like instruments. |
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On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 06:58:01 -0600, Leon wrote:
"Mike Marlow" wrote: wrote: On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 14:09:04 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 12/13/2013 11:27 AM, Swingman wrote: On 12/13/2013 10:14 AM, Mike Marlow wrote: Agreed (by the standards we embrace), but today's generation looks at things differently. They'll put up with whatever it takes or costs to get a case for that thing. I wouldn't and maybe you wouldn't but then again, he's not marketing to us. Why is it you rarely hear "today's music" on a commercial (AKA, marketing)? Answer: When "music" started being more about "appearances" than what was being played. Kim and I were talking about this yesterday while listening to Christmas songs. You still mostly hear Bing Crosby, Andy Williams, Dean Martin, Perry Como, Frank Sanatra. Mannheim Steamroller, The Real Group,... ;-) Trans Siberian Orchestra! I also like Manhattan Transfer, though they haven't done much Christmas stuff. Boston Pops (w/John Williams) has done quite a bit, too. LOL. I immediately thought of that one too as being the modern day group, but IIRC there are no vocals. So mix that with The Real Group (no instruments - even the percussion is voice). ;-). |
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On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 10:34:49 -0800, Lew Hodgett wrote:
"Swingman" wrote: Why is it you rarely hear "today's music" on a commercial (AKA, marketing)? Answer: When "music" started being more about "appearances" than what was being played. ------------------------------------------ With Sinatra gone, after Bublee it's mostly all noise. Lew It's not our world any longer, the keys to the kingdom are being slowly but inexorably pulled from our old feeble fingers. The new holders have no real use for our ideas, opinions, music, or culture for it is now their kingdom. This is as it has always been and as it will always be. :) basilisk |
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On 12/13/2013 10:05 AM, Swingman wrote:
On 12/13/2013 8:55 AM, Greg Guarino wrote: It takes a lot of skill to make a guitar as unplayable as that one. Unmentioned was the poor ******* that had to spend a week fitting a case for it. Yep, the "Here, hold my beer and watch this" mentality strikes again. A concept completely lost on this culture ... just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. Well, I'm not sure I'd go quite that far. This isn't Jackass material, after all. Presumably this guy has worked on his craft, did the work sober and didn't hurt anyone or damage any property in the process. But yes, I like for an instrument to be designed first to be played, after which any decoration is OK with me. Those gunstocks look like a significant impediment. When I was a young man I met a quite accomplished guitarist who had one of the best-looking guitars I had ever seen. The contours of the guitar were some relatively standard solid-body shape. But the front surface had a picture of a sailing ship in intricate detail, not painted on, but inlaid, each shade a different kind of wood. A beautiful piece of work. Better yet, the guitarist had made it himself. |
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On 12/14/2013 12:03 PM, wrote:
I also like Manhattan Transfer MT's album "Swing" 1997 ... it is doubtful that there is a better swing album in the entire history of music, bar none! The absolute epitome of "swing"! -- eWoodShop: www.eWoodShop.com Wood Shop: www.e-WoodShop.net google.com/+KarlCaillouet http://www.custommade.com/by/ewoodshop/ KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) |
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On 12/14/2013 12:38 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
When I was a young man I met a quite accomplished guitarist who had one of the best-looking guitars I had ever seen. The contours of the guitar were some relatively standard solid-body shape. But the front surface had a picture of a sailing ship in intricate detail, not painted on, but inlaid, each shade a different kind of wood. A beautiful piece of work. Better yet, the guitarist had made it himself. Nice ... but how did that guitar look to you on the radio/over headphones/speakers/in the car? ;) -- eWoodShop: www.eWoodShop.com Wood Shop: www.e-WoodShop.net google.com/+KarlCaillouet http://www.custommade.com/by/ewoodshop/ KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) |
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Leon wrote:
On 12/14/2013 7:38 AM, Mike Marlow wrote: Leon wrote: "Mike Marlow" wrote: wrote: On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 14:09:04 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 12/13/2013 11:27 AM, Swingman wrote: On 12/13/2013 10:14 AM, Mike Marlow wrote: Agreed (by the standards we embrace), but today's generation looks at things differently. They'll put up with whatever it takes or costs to get a case for that thing. I wouldn't and maybe you wouldn't but then again, he's not marketing to us. Why is it you rarely hear "today's music" on a commercial (AKA, marketing)? Answer: When "music" started being more about "appearances" than what was being played. Kim and I were talking about this yesterday while listening to Christmas songs. You still mostly hear Bing Crosby, Andy Williams, Dean Martin, Perry Como, Frank Sanatra. Mannheim Steamroller, The Real Group,... ;-) Trans Siberian Orchestra! LOL. I immediately thought of that one too as being the modern day group, but IIRC there are no vocals. Yeah - there are. In fact (I just recently learned...) one of the original concepts was to build a rock band with 18 vocal soloists. Ok, I'll take your word for that. It is a group that my son listens to, not a bad group at all but not one I would normally. Sometimes with lots of vocals in a band the voices tend to sound like instruments. I read that on their web site - never had any such idea myself. -- -Mike- |
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On 12/13/2013 12:34 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
"Swingman" wrote: Why is it you rarely hear "today's music" on a commercial (AKA, marketing)? Answer: When "music" started being more about "appearances" than what was being played. ------------------------------------------ With Sinatra gone, after Bublee it's mostly all noise. Lew Bublee is good and Harry Conik Jr. is good. |
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On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 12:45:23 -0600, Swingman wrote:
On 12/14/2013 12:03 PM, wrote: I also like Manhattan Transfer MT's album "Swing" 1997 ... it is doubtful that there is a better swing album in the entire history of music, bar none! The absolute epitome of "swing"! Agreed. I think I have all of their CDs. A few aren't so good but most are great. Perhaps the difference is in my preference for the music. Each of their CDs has a "theme". Some aren't up my alley but "Swing", certainly is. If you like MT, I think you'll like The Real Group, too. My boss turned me onto them recently. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_suyTfuQ7Ag https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUUT_5VMrpo |
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On 12/14/2013 1:50 PM, Swingman wrote:
On 12/14/2013 12:38 PM, Greg Guarino wrote: When I was a young man I met a quite accomplished guitarist who had one of the best-looking guitars I had ever seen. The contours of the guitar were some relatively standard solid-body shape. But the front surface had a picture of a sailing ship in intricate detail, not painted on, but inlaid, each shade a different kind of wood. A beautiful piece of work. Better yet, the guitarist had made it himself. Nice ... but how did that guitar look to you on the radio/over headphones/speakers/in the car? ;) Your ears are just too old to hear that special "marquetry" tone. But its there, man ... it's *there*. Oh, and you need Six-Nines Oxygen-Free Copper for all your cables too. :) |
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