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Bandsaw trouble
I have an older Jet JBS 14MW bandsaw. While tightening one of the upper guide blocks, the guide block housing cracked. DAGS for a replacement part and came up with nothing, so it looks like I need to go aftermarket. Looked at some of the Carter options, but they are pretty pricey. Any suggestions?
Larry |
Bandsaw trouble
On 9/16/2013 7:37 PM, Gramps' shop wrote:
I have an older Jet JBS 14MW bandsaw. While tightening one of the upper guide blocks, the guide block housing cracked. DAGS for a replacement part and came up with nothing, so it looks like I need to go aftermarket. Looked at some of the Carter options, but they are pretty pricey. Any suggestions? Take it to a welding shop that does cast iron welding (magnaflux?) and don't get carried away tightening down in the future?g |
Bandsaw trouble
Gramps' shop wrote: I have an older Jet JBS 14MW bandsaw. While tightening one of the upper guide blocks, the guide block housing cracked. DAGS for a replacement part and came up with nothing, so it looks like I need to go aftermarket. Looked at some of the Carter options, but they are pretty pricey. Any suggestions? ------------------------------------------------------ "Unquestionably Confused" wrote: Take it to a welding shop that does cast iron welding (magnaflux?) and don't get carried away tightening down in the future?g ---------------------------------------------------- For cast iron, that would be brazing. Lew |
Bandsaw trouble
On 09/16/2013 09:31 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Take it to a welding shop that does cast iron welding (magnaflux?) and don't get carried away tightening down in the future?g ---------------------------------------------------- For cast iron, that would be brazing. ... or welding. Cast iron can be welded but it needs to be pre-heated and then slowly allowed to cool I would try JB Weld. I've used it with success on cracked metal. - Art S. |
Bandsaw trouble
On 9/16/2013 8:31 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Lew Hodgett wrote: Gramps' shop wrote: I have an older Jet JBS 14MW bandsaw. While tightening one of the upper guide blocks, the guide block housing cracked. DAGS for a replacement part and came up with nothing, so it looks like I need to go aftermarket. Looked at some of the Carter options, but they are pretty pricey. Any suggestions? ------------------------------------------------------ "Unquestionably Confused" wrote: Take it to a welding shop that does cast iron welding (magnaflux?) and don't get carried away tightening down in the future?g ---------------------------------------------------- For cast iron, that would be brazing. ... or welding. Cast iron can be welded but it needs to be pre-heated and then slowly allowed to cool A rose by any other name... Gramps? Look to fix it before replacing it. Shouldn't cost all that much and if it works... If not, begin the quest anew. |
Bandsaw trouble
On 9/16/13 7:37 PM, Gramps' shop wrote:
I have an older Jet JBS 14MW bandsaw. While tightening one of the upper guide blocks, the guide block housing cracked. DAGS for a replacement part and came up with nothing, so it looks like I need to go aftermarket. Looked at some of the Carter options, but they are pretty pricey. Any suggestions? Larry Call this number... JET Tools North America 427 New Sanford Road La Vergne, TN 37086 Phone: 1.800.274.6848 They have parts for Jet, Delta, and almost every other old brand name that was bought up by the same conglomerate years ago. I have the same exact saw as you. When I first got it and was looking for some spare parts I called these guys because they are right down the road from me. They told me they still have bunches and bunches of parts for these old machines in their warehouse but they don't advertise it. Look up the parts number on line in case they don't know what you're talking about. If they a problem with paying over the phone and shipping it, I'd be happy to pick it up for you and send it for the cost. But yeah, might be a good excuse to buy newer guides. :-) -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
Bandsaw trouble
Art wrote:
On 09/16/2013 09:31 PM, Mike Marlow wrote: Take it to a welding shop that does cast iron welding (magnaflux?) and don't get carried away tightening down in the future?g ---------------------------------------------------- For cast iron, that would be brazing. ... or welding. Cast iron can be welded but it needs to be pre-heated and then slowly allowed to cool I would try JB Weld. I've used it with success on cracked metal. I know that people have had good luck with JB Weld, but I just never have. -- -Mike- |
Bandsaw trouble
On 9/16/13 7:40 PM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
On 9/16/2013 7:37 PM, Gramps' shop wrote: I have an older Jet JBS 14MW bandsaw. While tightening one of the upper guide blocks, the guide block housing cracked. DAGS for a replacement part and came up with nothing, so it looks like I need to go aftermarket. Looked at some of the Carter options, but they are pretty pricey. Any suggestions? Take it to a welding shop that does cast iron welding (magnaflux?) and don't get carried away tightening down in the future?g These things are more like pot metal like the old die-cast toy cars used to be made of. Very light, brittle, weak, and easy to crack. The problem with "don't get carried away" is that if there was a scale of 1-10 of "tight enough to hold the guide steady" and "too tight, might crack," the former would be 5 and the latter would be 6. Seriously. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
Bandsaw trouble
Unquestionably Confused wrote:
On 9/16/2013 8:31 PM, Mike Marlow wrote: Lew Hodgett wrote: Gramps' shop wrote: I have an older Jet JBS 14MW bandsaw. While tightening one of the upper guide blocks, the guide block housing cracked. DAGS for a replacement part and came up with nothing, so it looks like I need to go aftermarket. Looked at some of the Carter options, but they are pretty pricey. Any suggestions? ------------------------------------------------------ "Unquestionably Confused" wrote: Take it to a welding shop that does cast iron welding (magnaflux?) and don't get carried away tightening down in the future?g ---------------------------------------------------- For cast iron, that would be brazing. ... or welding. Cast iron can be welded but it needs to be pre-heated and then slowly allowed to cool A rose by any other name... ....is not a rose. Big difference between welding and brazing. Brazing is not as strong as welding. -- -Mike- |
Bandsaw trouble
"Gramps' shop" wrote in
: I have an older Jet JBS 14MW bandsaw. While tightening one of the upper guide blocks, the guide block housing cracked. DAGS for a replacement part and came up with nothing, so it looks like I need to go aftermarket. Looked at some of the Carter options, but they are pretty pricey. Any suggestions? Larry Where is it cracked? Perhaps you can fashion something to hold it together securely. For example, if it's along one of the square edges, a bit of angle iron (aluminum would probably work), a couple screws and a couple tapped holes might form an adequate repair. A roller bearing setup won't be cheap, but I believe they're designed to replace the entire guide block housing. Maybe you can find someone who's got the spare parts left from a conversion. Puckdropper -- Make it to fit, don't make it fit. |
Bandsaw trouble
OK, "crack" is a bit of an understatement. I chunk of it broke off, splitting the threaded hole for the set screw in half. I think the odds of getting a weld or braze or epoxy to hold without compromising the threads are pretty low. Hence, the replacement.
And, let it be known that I wasn't torqueing the set screw hard. I guess this one falls into the "**** happens" category. Larry On Monday, September 16, 2013 7:37:36 PM UTC-5, Gramps' shop wrote: I have an older Jet JBS 14MW bandsaw. While tightening one of the upper guide blocks, the guide block housing cracked. DAGS for a replacement part and came up with nothing, so it looks like I need to go aftermarket. Looked at some of the Carter options, but they are pretty pricey. Any suggestions? Larry |
Bandsaw trouble
On 9/16/13 9:16 PM, Gramps' shop wrote:
OK, "crack" is a bit of an understatement. I chunk of it broke off, splitting the threaded hole for the set screw in half. I think the odds of getting a weld or braze or epoxy to hold without compromising the threads are pretty low. Hence, the replacement. And, let it be known that I wasn't torqueing the set screw hard. I guess this one falls into the "**** happens" category. Larry As I explained in another post, there's no operator error involved with this. It was a poor design made with poor material. They are notorious for breaking in that exact spot. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
Bandsaw trouble
"Gramps' shop" wrote in
: OK, "crack" is a bit of an understatement. I chunk of it broke off, splitting the threaded hole for the set screw in half. I think the odds of getting a weld or braze or epoxy to hold without compromising the threads are pretty low. Hence, the replacement. And, let it be known that I wasn't torqueing the set screw hard. I guess this one falls into the "**** happens" category. Larry It might be possible to hold things together with a metal band on either side of the screw hole. A piece of square stock measuring close to 7/8" should do it, perhaps with a little filing. Puckdropper -- Make it to fit, don't make it fit. |
Bandsaw trouble
On 9/16/2013 5:37 PM, Gramps' shop wrote:
I have an older Jet JBS 14MW bandsaw. While tightening one of the upper guide blocks, the guide block housing cracked. DAGS for a replacement part and came up with nothing, so it looks like I need to go aftermarket. Looked at some of the Carter options, but they are pretty pricey. Any suggestions? Larry I'm guessing but I bet you can get that part from just about anybody who carries parts for band saws including Delta. Jet is a "direct" copy of the Delta 14" band saw that has been in production since the 1930's as I recall. Jet is still in business and they should be contacted also. Is this your saw ??? http://www.jettools.com/us/en/p/14-c...5-230v/708115K and I bet those guide blocks will work on your saw. Carter also will have guide blocks that work... http://www.carterproducts.com/band-s...and-saw-guides |
Bandsaw trouble
On 9/16/2013 7:37 PM, Gramps' shop wrote:
I have an older Jet JBS 14MW bandsaw. While tightening one of the upper guide blocks, the guide block housing cracked. DAGS for a replacement part and came up with nothing, so it looks like I need to go aftermarket. Looked at some of the Carter options, but they are pretty pricey. Any suggestions? Larry Now is a good time and opportunity to switch over to "Ceramic" guides! |
Bandsaw trouble
Update:
Called Jet (thanks, Mike) and there was enough confusion there as to whether the part was available that I had little confidence I would get the correct replacement. Went to Woodcraft and decided against the $200 Carter upper and lower system as that was almost as much as I paid for the saw a few years back. Found a Carter look-alike on eBay -- http://www.ebay.com/itm/321200823928 -- for about $60. Looks like it will fit. Will report once I receive it. Thanks to all for your input. Larry |
Bandsaw trouble
On 17 Sep 2013 02:51:17 GMT, Puckdropper
It might be possible to hold things together with a metal band on either side of the screw hole. A piece of square stock measuring close to 7/8" should do it, perhaps with a little filing. Could be poor design as Mike mentioned or the problem might be something else ~ metal fatigue. Had an Emmert vise passed down to me from my father. It fell apart on me section by section. Had the same thing happen with an older drill press too. Some of the older tools are pretty good. Some just wear out over the years. |
Bandsaw trouble
On 9/16/2013 8:37 PM, Gramps' shop wrote:
I have an older Jet JBS 14MW bandsaw. While tightening one of the upper guide blocks, the guide block housing cracked. DAGS for a replacement part and came up with nothing, so it looks like I need to go aftermarket. Looked at some of the Carter options, but they are pretty pricey. Any suggestions? Larry That part should readily be available. They haven't really changed all that much over time. -- Jeff |
Bandsaw trouble
On 9/17/13 4:36 PM, Gramps' shop wrote:
Update: Called Jet (thanks, Mike) and there was enough confusion there as to whether the part was available that I had little confidence I would get the correct replacement. Went to Woodcraft and decided against the $200 Carter upper and lower system as that was almost as much as I paid for the saw a few years back. Found a Carter look-alike on eBay -- http://www.ebay.com/itm/321200823928 -- for about $60. Looks like it will fit. Will report once I receive it. Thanks to all for your input. Larry Please report back if they work. That would be worth searching for again, for me to buy. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
Try to do google search "Aftermarket Jet 14 Compatible Band Saw Parts"
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