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[email protected] April 26th 13 04:22 PM

Tilting Router Table Fence
 
Can be made to fit almost any existing router table. Open up the possibilities for new router profiles!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a88f1pv6jM

Leon[_7_] April 26th 13 04:52 PM

Tilting Router Table Fence
 
On 4/26/2013 10:22 AM, wrote:
Can be made to fit almost any existing router table. Open up the possibilities for new router profiles!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a88f1pv6jM



Very cool and well thought out fence you got there Brian..... If that
thing was aluminum...... you might be the next competitor with Incra!

[email protected] April 27th 13 07:58 AM

Tilting Router Table Fence
 
On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:52:15 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
Can be made to fit almost any existing router table. Open up the possibilities for new router profiles!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a88f1pv6jM


Very cool and well thought out fence you got there Brian..... If that
thing was aluminum...... you might be the next competitor with Incra!


+1. I could see it selling very well.

woodchucker[_3_] April 27th 13 04:39 PM

Tilting Router Table Fence
 
On 4/27/2013 2:58 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:52:15 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
Can be made to fit almost any existing router table. Open up the possibilities for new router profiles!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a88f1pv6jM

Very cool and well thought out fence you got there Brian..... If that
thing was aluminum...... you might be the next competitor with Incra!


+1. I could see it selling very well.


Sorry, but I don't. I would think a tilting router base would work
better. The gap at the bottom shows no support and that is a minus.

Sorry Brian, I didn't mean to rain on your parade. But support is
everything, so is contact, its good, but not great.

I have seen tilting router supports for sale, and a nice home made from
Matthias. I would not use the gear that he used, but I might use the
screw drive that he had, just coupled differently.

--
Jeff

willshak April 28th 13 03:13 PM

Tilting Router Table Fence
 
On 4/27/2013 11:39 AM, woodchucker wrote:
On 4/27/2013 2:58 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:52:15 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
Can be made to fit almost any existing router table. Open up the
possibilities for new router profiles!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a88f1pv6jM

Very cool and well thought out fence you got there Brian..... If that
thing was aluminum...... you might be the next competitor with Incra!


+1. I could see it selling very well.


Sorry, but I don't. I would think a tilting router base would work
better. The gap at the bottom shows no support and that is a minus.


How about a small chamfer on the back to lower the fence front when it's
angled?
It's for a router. How thin would the work be to be able to use a router?


Sorry Brian, I didn't mean to rain on your parade. But support is
everything, so is contact, its good, but not great.

I have seen tilting router supports for sale, and a nice home made from
Matthias. I would not use the gear that he used, but I might use the
screw drive that he had, just coupled differently.



--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeros after @

woodchucker[_3_] April 28th 13 03:39 PM

Tilting Router Table Fence
 
On 4/28/2013 10:13 AM, willshak wrote:
On 4/27/2013 11:39 AM, woodchucker wrote:
On 4/27/2013 2:58 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:52:15 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
Can be made to fit almost any existing router table. Open up the
possibilities for new router profiles!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a88f1pv6jM

Very cool and well thought out fence you got there Brian..... If that
thing was aluminum...... you might be the next competitor with Incra!

+1. I could see it selling very well.


Sorry, but I don't. I would think a tilting router base would work
better. The gap at the bottom shows no support and that is a minus.


How about a small chamfer on the back to lower the fence front when it's
angled?
It's for a router. How thin would the work be to be able to use a router?

It's not the fence, its the workpiece. It is off the table where it is
being cut. , I would rather have the piece sitting on the table.
Secondly, with it off, I could not put a zero clearance insert in there.
While not necessary, it's more controllable. I realize a CNC router
doesn't have zero clearance. But there are definitely times you need it.

Brian's works, and works well, but it is a little bit of a compromise
for this reason. In his example it makes it difficult to determine depth
and height. If the piece lies flat on the table you know the depth and
height.



Sorry Brian, I didn't mean to rain on your parade. But support is
everything, so is contact, its good, but not great.

I have seen tilting router supports for sale, and a nice home made from
Matthias. I would not use the gear that he used, but I might use the
screw drive that he had, just coupled differently.





--
Jeff

[email protected] April 28th 13 04:44 PM

Tilting Router Table Fence
 
On Sunday, April 28, 2013 10:39:58 AM UTC-4, woodchucker wrote:
On 4/28/2013 10:13 AM, willshak wrote:

On 4/27/2013 11:39 AM, woodchucker wrote:


On 4/27/2013 2:58 AM, wrote:


On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:52:15 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet


Can be made to fit almost any existing router table. Open up the


possibilities for new router profiles!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a88f1pv6jM



Very cool and well thought out fence you got there Brian..... If that


thing was aluminum...... you might be the next competitor with Incra!




+1. I could see it selling very well.






Sorry, but I don't. I would think a tilting router base would work


better. The gap at the bottom shows no support and that is a minus.




How about a small chamfer on the back to lower the fence front when it's


angled?


It's for a router. How thin would the work be to be able to use a router?




It's not the fence, its the workpiece. It is off the table where it is

being cut. , I would rather have the piece sitting on the table.



Not sure why the split fence opening is bothering you, but if it makes you uncomfortable then use a solid one piece fence w/ an opening in the middle for the bit.



Secondly, with it off, I could not put a zero clearance insert in there.

While not necessary, it's more controllable. I realize a CNC router

doesn't have zero clearance. But there are definitely times you need it.



Brian's works, and works well, but it is a little bit of a compromise

for this reason. In his example it makes it difficult to determine depth

and height.


Not at all. It's quite easy to determine the height. Line up your lumber in front of the bit against the table. You can see the profile that will be cut into the wood perfectly, height and depth.

If the piece lies flat on the table you know the depth and

height.


There is a price reduction in the plans. $9.95

Cheers!






Sorry Brian, I didn't mean to rain on your parade. But support is


everything, so is contact, its good, but not great.




I have seen tilting router supports for sale, and a nice home made from


Matthias. I would not use the gear that he used, but I might use the


screw drive that he had, just coupled differently.












--

Jeff



[email protected] April 28th 13 04:50 PM

Tilting Router Table Fence
 
On Sunday, April 28, 2013 10:39:58 AM UTC-4, woodchucker wrote:
On 4/28/2013 10:13 AM, willshak wrote:

On 4/27/2013 11:39 AM, woodchucker wrote:


On 4/27/2013 2:58 AM, wrote:


On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:52:15 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet


Can be made to fit almost any existing router table. Open up the


possibilities for new router profiles!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a88f1pv6jM



Very cool and well thought out fence you got there Brian..... If that


thing was aluminum...... you might be the next competitor with Incra!




+1. I could see it selling very well.






Sorry, but I don't. I would think a tilting router base would work


better. The gap at the bottom shows no support and that is a minus.




How about a small chamfer on the back to lower the fence front when it's


angled?


It's for a router. How thin would the work be to be able to use a router?




It's not the fence, its the workpiece. It is off the table where it is

being cut. , I would rather have the piece sitting on the table.



Also - You are always going to have an opening in one of the workpiece contact planes. There is no way around this if you want your router bit to make contact with the work piece. Two contact planes (router table surface and fence) are all that is ever required to stabilize the work piece. In a normal, non-tilting fence, you still only have two contact planes and an opening for the bit. Nothing has changes but the tilt angle.




Secondly, with it off, I could not put a zero clearance insert in there.

While not necessary, it's more controllable. I realize a CNC router

doesn't have zero clearance. But there are definitely times you need it.



Brian's works, and works well, but it is a little bit of a compromise

for this reason. In his example it makes it difficult to determine depth

and height. If the piece lies flat on the table you know the depth and

height.







Sorry Brian, I didn't mean to rain on your parade. But support is


everything, so is contact, its good, but not great.




I have seen tilting router supports for sale, and a nice home made from


Matthias. I would not use the gear that he used, but I might use the


screw drive that he had, just coupled differently.












--

Jeff



woodchucker[_3_] April 28th 13 04:55 PM

Tilting Router Table Fence
 
On 4/28/2013 11:44 AM, wrote:
On Sunday, April 28, 2013 10:39:58 AM UTC-4, woodchucker wrote:
On 4/28/2013 10:13 AM, willshak wrote:

On 4/27/2013 11:39 AM, woodchucker wrote:


On 4/27/2013 2:58 AM,
wrote:

On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:52:15 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet


Can be made to fit almost any existing router table. Open up the


possibilities for new router profiles!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a88f1pv6jM



Very cool and well thought out fence you got there Brian..... If that


thing was aluminum...... you might be the next competitor with Incra!




+1. I could see it selling very well.






Sorry, but I don't. I would think a tilting router base would work


better. The gap at the bottom shows no support and that is a minus.




How about a small chamfer on the back to lower the fence front when it's


angled?


It's for a router. How thin would the work be to be able to use a router?




It's not the fence, its the workpiece. It is off the table where it is

being cut. , I would rather have the piece sitting on the table.



Not sure why the split fence opening is bothering you, but if it makes you uncomfortable then use a solid one piece fence w/ an opening in the middle for the bit.


Brian, the split fence is not what is bothering me, its the edge that
you are cutting that is off the table.


Secondly, with it off, I could not put a zero clearance insert in there.

While not necessary, it's more controllable. I realize a CNC router

doesn't have zero clearance. But there are definitely times you need it.



Brian's works, and works well, but it is a little bit of a compromise

for this reason. In his example it makes it difficult to determine depth

and height.


Not at all. It's quite easy to determine the height. Line up your lumber in front of the bit against the table. You can see the profile that will be cut into the wood perfectly, height and depth.

If the piece lies flat on the table you know the depth and

height.


There is a price reduction in the plans. $9.95

Cheers!






Sorry Brian, I didn't mean to rain on your parade. But support is


everything, so is contact, its good, but not great.




I have seen tilting router supports for sale, and a nice home made from


Matthias. I would not use the gear that he used, but I might use the


screw drive that he had, just coupled differently.












--

Jeff




--
Jeff

[email protected] April 28th 13 04:58 PM

Tilting Router Table Fence
 
On Sunday, April 28, 2013 11:55:16 AM UTC-4, woodchucker wrote:
On 4/28/2013 11:44 AM, wrote:

On Sunday, April 28, 2013 10:39:58 AM UTC-4, woodchucker wrote:


On 4/28/2013 10:13 AM, willshak wrote:




On 4/27/2013 11:39 AM, woodchucker wrote:




On 4/27/2013 2:58 AM,
wrote:



On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:52:15 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet




Can be made to fit almost any existing router table. Open up the




possibilities for new router profiles!




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a88f1pv6jM







Very cool and well thought out fence you got there Brian..... If that




thing was aluminum...... you might be the next competitor with Incra!








+1. I could see it selling very well.












Sorry, but I don't. I would think a tilting router base would work




better. The gap at the bottom shows no support and that is a minus.








How about a small chamfer on the back to lower the fence front when it's




angled?




It's for a router. How thin would the work be to be able to use a router?








It's not the fence, its the workpiece. It is off the table where it is




being cut. , I would rather have the piece sitting on the table.






Not sure why the split fence opening is bothering you, but if it makes you uncomfortable then use a solid one piece fence w/ an opening in the middle for the bit.






Brian, the split fence is not what is bothering me, its the edge that

you are cutting that is off the table.



Why is this a problem? Determining the depth is a non-issue.







Secondly, with it off, I could not put a zero clearance insert in there.




While not necessary, it's more controllable. I realize a CNC router




doesn't have zero clearance. But there are definitely times you need it.








Brian's works, and works well, but it is a little bit of a compromise




for this reason. In his example it makes it difficult to determine depth




and height.




Not at all. It's quite easy to determine the height. Line up your lumber in front of the bit against the table. You can see the profile that will be cut into the wood perfectly, height and depth.




If the piece lies flat on the table you know the depth and




height.






There is a price reduction in the plans. $9.95




Cheers!














Sorry Brian, I didn't mean to rain on your parade. But support is




everything, so is contact, its good, but not great.








I have seen tilting router supports for sale, and a nice home made from




Matthias. I would not use the gear that he used, but I might use the




screw drive that he had, just coupled differently.
























--




Jeff








--

Jeff



woodchucker[_3_] April 28th 13 04:59 PM

Tilting Router Table Fence
 
On 4/28/2013 11:50 AM, wrote:

Also - You are always going to have an opening in one of the workpiece contact planes. There is no way around this if you want your router bit to make contact with the work piece. Two contact planes (router table surface and fence) are all that is ever required to stabilize the work piece. In a normal, non-tilting fence, you still only have two contact planes and an opening for the bit. Nothing has changes but the tilt angle.



I sometimes use a zero clearance plate , and fence insert. When I am
cutting wood that tends to tearout badly. It's the only way I have found
to have repeatablility without wood loss.
My split fence has bevels in it to hold the insert.
And I bought uncut inserts for my router plate. I just cut through to
use them... No to little tearout even on wood that I found hard to cut
otherwise.


--
Jeff

[email protected] April 28th 13 05:02 PM

Tilting Router Table Fence
 
On Sunday, April 28, 2013 11:59:15 AM UTC-4, woodchucker wrote:
On 4/28/2013 11:50 AM, wrote:



Also - You are always going to have an opening in one of the workpiece contact planes. There is no way around this if you want your router bit to make contact with the work piece. Two contact planes (router table surface and fence) are all that is ever required to stabilize the work piece. In a normal, non-tilting fence, you still only have two contact planes and an opening for the bit. Nothing has changes but the tilt angle.






I sometimes use a zero clearance plate , and fence insert. When I am

cutting wood that tends to tearout badly. It's the only way I have found

to have repeatablility without wood loss.

My split fence has bevels in it to hold the insert.



Why would you not be able to adapt an insert in this case?



And I bought uncut inserts for my router plate. I just cut through to

use them... No to little tearout even on wood that I found hard to cut

otherwise.









--

Jeff



[email protected] April 28th 13 09:05 PM

Tilting Router Table Fence
 
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 11:39:15 -0400, woodchucker
+1. I could see it selling very well.


Sorry, but I don't. I would think a tilting router base would work
better. The gap at the bottom shows no support and that is a minus.


All things considered, this was a prototype and a fine first effort in
my opinion. I'd expect any edition put up for sale to be mostly made
out of metal with included sacrificial fences. It would include
various judicious modifications as per your comment and others.

woodchucker[_3_] April 29th 13 12:15 AM

Tilting Router Table Fence
 
On 4/28/2013 4:05 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 11:39:15 -0400, woodchucker
+1. I could see it selling very well.


Sorry, but I don't. I would think a tilting router base would work
better. The gap at the bottom shows no support and that is a minus.


All things considered, this was a prototype and a fine first effort in
my opinion. I'd expect any edition put up for sale to be mostly made
out of metal with included sacrificial fences. It would include
various judicious modifications as per your comment and others.

Again, it's not the fence's gap, its the gap on the stock being cut.
there's no support there.



--
Jeff

woodchucker[_3_] April 29th 13 12:36 AM

Tilting Router Table Fence
 
On 4/28/2013 12:02 PM, wrote:
Why would you not be able to adapt an insert in this case?

See my post in alt binaries..

Overall you tilt table works and will work for many who want this form
of tilt.

I just feel there is a better tilt by using the router tilted under the
table. Less chance of tearout, less chance of errors.

See the binaries.

--
Jeff


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