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[email protected] April 22nd 13 01:16 PM

Help with router setup
 
I got my new rail and stile bits out this weekend and put them on my ryobi router table and started playing with them. The bits seem to sit too high, I cant get the right profile on my 3/4 inch thick wood. On the stiles the ogee pattern is past the middle of the tickness of the wood. And becasue of this there is no groove put on the wood.

My router is a ryobi r 181FB1. It has been in storage for awhile. I had cleaned everythign up but I cant seem to make any adjustment for the bit to go down. There is a locking ring I loosened, the adjustment ring just moves a little before it stops. But this movement does not seem to be doing anything to the hight of the bit.

Can anyone suggest what I am doing wrong?

I appreciate it!

CW[_8_] April 22nd 13 01:55 PM

Help with router setup
 


wrote in message
...

I got my new rail and stile bits out this weekend and put them on my ryobi
router table and started playing with them. The bits seem to sit too high, I
cant get the right profile on my 3/4 inch thick wood. On the stiles the ogee
pattern is past the middle of the tickness of the wood. And becasue of this
there is no groove put on the wood.

My router is a ryobi r 181FB1. It has been in storage for awhile. I had
cleaned everythign up but I cant seem to make any adjustment for the bit to
go down. There is a locking ring I loosened, the adjustment ring just moves
a little before it stops. But this movement does not seem to be doing
anything to the hight of the bit.

Can anyone suggest what I am doing wrong?

I appreciate it!
================================================== =======================
There is a locking lever that you have to loosen first. Go here for the
manual.
http://powertool.manualsonline.com/m...l?idRes=597983


[email protected] April 22nd 13 02:26 PM

Help with router setup
 
On Monday, April 22, 2013 7:55:02 AM UTC-5, CW wrote:
wrote in message

...



I got my new rail and stile bits out this weekend and put them on my ryobi

router table and started playing with them. The bits seem to sit too high, I

cant get the right profile on my 3/4 inch thick wood. On the stiles the ogee

pattern is past the middle of the tickness of the wood. And becasue of this

there is no groove put on the wood.



My router is a ryobi r 181FB1. It has been in storage for awhile. I had

cleaned everythign up but I cant seem to make any adjustment for the bit to

go down. There is a locking ring I loosened, the adjustment ring just moves

a little before it stops. But this movement does not seem to be doing

anything to the hight of the bit.



Can anyone suggest what I am doing wrong?



I appreciate it!

================================================== =======================

There is a locking lever that you have to loosen first. Go here for the

manual.

http://powertool.manualsonline.com/m...l?idRes=597983


I did loosen that locking ring.

dadiOH[_3_] April 22nd 13 02:43 PM

Help with router setup
 
wrote:
On Monday, April 22, 2013 7:55:02 AM UTC-5, CW wrote:
wrote in message

...



I got my new rail and stile bits out this weekend and put them on my
ryobi

router table and started playing with them. The bits seem to sit too
high, I

cant get the right profile on my 3/4 inch thick wood. On the stiles
the ogee

pattern is past the middle of the tickness of the wood. And becasue
of this

there is no groove put on the wood.



My router is a ryobi r 181FB1. It has been in storage for awhile. I
had

cleaned everythign up but I cant seem to make any adjustment for the
bit to

go down. There is a locking ring I loosened, the adjustment ring
just moves

a little before it stops. But this movement does not seem to be doing

anything to the hight of the bit.



Can anyone suggest what I am doing wrong?



I appreciate it!

================================================== =======================

There is a locking lever that you have to loosen first. Go here for
the

manual.

http://powertool.manualsonline.com/m...l?idRes=597983

I did loosen that locking ring.


If you loosened the locking lever and you can't (appreciably) turn the depth
adjusting ring then either (1) you are not doing one or both correctly or,
(2) your router is toast.

--

dadiOH
____________________________

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Pat Barber[_2_] April 22nd 13 09:15 PM

Help with router setup
 
On 4/22/2013 5:16 AM, wrote:
I got my new rail and stile bits out this weekend and put them on my ryobi router table and started playing with them. The bits seem to sit too high, I cant get the right profile on my 3/4 inch thick wood. On the stiles the ogee pattern is past the middle of the tickness of the wood. And becasue of this there is no groove put on the wood.

My router is a ryobi r 181FB1. It has been in storage for awhile. I had cleaned everythign up but I cant seem to make any adjustment for the bit to go down. There is a locking ring I loosened, the adjustment ring just moves a little before it stops. But this movement does not seem to be doing anything to the hight of the bit.

Can anyone suggest what I am doing wrong?

I appreciate it!


I assume you did not get any written instructions with your bits ?

These folks offer instructions on "how to do it" on their sets:

These should be close enough to get the general idea of bit setup.

http://www.freudtools.com/p-225-thre...etbr-nbsp.aspx

There sets all come with a video and written instruction.

Pat Barber[_2_] April 22nd 13 09:21 PM

Help with router setup
 
On 4/22/2013 5:16 AM, wrote:
I got my new rail and stile bits out this weekend and put them on my ryobi router table and started playing with them. The bits seem to sit too high, I cant get the right profile on my 3/4 inch thick wood. On the stiles the ogee pattern is past the middle of the tickness of the wood. And becasue of this there is no groove put on the wood.

My router is a ryobi r 181FB1. It has been in storage for awhile. I had cleaned everythign up but I cant seem to make any adjustment for the bit to go down. There is a locking ring I loosened, the adjustment ring just moves a little before it stops. But this movement does not seem to be doing anything to the hight of the bit.

Can anyone suggest what I am doing wrong?

I appreciate it!


I found the poster with the setup...

http://www.woodmagazine.com/wood/fil...test/doorhowto

dadiOH[_3_] April 22nd 13 10:14 PM

Help with router setup
 
Pat Barber wrote:
On 4/22/2013 5:16 AM, wrote:
I got my new rail and stile bits out this weekend and put them on my
ryobi router table and started playing with them. The bits seem to
sit too high, I cant get the right profile on my 3/4 inch thick
wood. On the stiles the ogee pattern is past the middle of the
tickness of the wood. And becasue of this there is no groove put on
the wood. My router is a ryobi r 181FB1. It has been in storage for
awhile. I
had cleaned everythign up but I cant seem to make any adjustment for
the bit to go down. There is a locking ring I loosened, the
adjustment ring just moves a little before it stops. But this
movement does not seem to be doing anything to the hight of the bit.

Can anyone suggest what I am doing wrong?

I appreciate it!


I assume you did not get any written instructions with your bits ?

These folks offer instructions on "how to do it" on their sets:

These should be close enough to get the general idea of bit setup.

http://www.freudtools.com/p-225-thre...etbr-nbsp.aspx

There sets all come with a video and written instruction.


He's not trying to set up the bits, he is trying to figure out how to adjust
cutting depth on his router.

--

dadiOH
____________________________

Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race?
Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change?
Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net



[email protected] April 23rd 13 01:32 PM

Help with router setup
 
On Monday, April 22, 2013 4:14:09 PM UTC-5, dadiOH wrote:
Pat Barber wrote:

On 4/22/2013 5:16 AM, wrote:


I got my new rail and stile bits out this weekend and put them on my


ryobi router table and started playing with them. The bits seem to


sit too high, I cant get the right profile on my 3/4 inch thick


wood. On the stiles the ogee pattern is past the middle of the


tickness of the wood. And becasue of this there is no groove put on


the wood. My router is a ryobi r 181FB1. It has been in storage for


awhile. I


had cleaned everythign up but I cant seem to make any adjustment for


the bit to go down. There is a locking ring I loosened, the


adjustment ring just moves a little before it stops. But this


movement does not seem to be doing anything to the hight of the bit.




Can anyone suggest what I am doing wrong?




I appreciate it!






I assume you did not get any written instructions with your bits ?




These folks offer instructions on "how to do it" on their sets:




These should be close enough to get the general idea of bit setup.




http://www.freudtools.com/p-225-thre...etbr-nbsp.aspx



There sets all come with a video and written instruction.




He's not trying to set up the bits, he is trying to figure out how to adjust

cutting depth on his router.



--



dadiOH

____________________________



Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race?

Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change?

Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net


I ffoled with it last night. It went down some but then locked up again. I am not sure my router may be shot.

I am going to take it off the table and mess with it and if I cant get it to work I guess get a new router and or table at Lowes.

Pat Barber[_2_] April 23rd 13 06:26 PM

Help with router setup
 
On 4/22/2013 2:14 PM, dadiOH wrote:

He's not trying to set up the bits, he is trying to figure out how to adjust
cutting depth on his router.


Yep...I missed that ...sorry

A new router might be in order.


whit3rd April 23rd 13 08:48 PM

Help with router setup
 
On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 5:32:38 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Monday, April 22, 2013 4:14:09 PM UTC-5, dadiOH wrote:

Pat Barber wrote:




On 4/22/2013 5:16 AM, wrote:




I got my new rail and stile bits out this weekend and put them on my
ryobi router table and started playing with them. The bits seem to
sit too high


I ffoled with it last night. It went down some but then locked up again. I am not sure my router may be shot.


I am going to take it off the table and mess with it and if I cant get it to work I guess get a new router and or table at Lowes.


Actually, rail/stile bits might interfere with the baseplate or insert aperture; these
are large-diameter bits, in general. New router/table isn't a solution, if that's
the issue. You have to look for interference with other parts, for depth-stops
settings, for dirty/jammed adjustment mechanisms.

Look carefully.

dadiOH[_3_] April 24th 13 12:23 AM

Help with router setup
 
whit3rd wrote:
On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 5:32:38 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Monday, April 22, 2013 4:14:09 PM UTC-5, dadiOH wrote:

Pat Barber wrote:




On 4/22/2013 5:16 AM, wrote:




I got my new rail and stile bits out this weekend and put them on
my ryobi router table and started playing with them. The bits
seem to sit too high


I ffoled with it last night. It went down some but then locked up
again. I am not sure my router may be shot.


I am going to take it off the table and mess with it and if I cant
get it to work I guess get a new router and or table at Lowes.


Actually, rail/stile bits might interfere with the baseplate or
insert aperture; these are large-diameter bits, in general. New
router/table isn't a solution, if that's the issue. You have to
look for interference with other parts, for depth-stops settings, for
dirty/jammed adjustment mechanisms.

Look carefully.


By, jing, I think you may have provided the answer. I would have thought he
would have noticed if the bit was too big to go through the hole but -
everything considered - maybe not.

--

dadiOH
____________________________

Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race?
Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change?
Check it out...
http://www.floridaloghouse.net



Leon[_7_] April 24th 13 05:33 PM

Help with router setup
 
On 4/23/2013 6:23 PM, dadiOH wrote:
whit3rd wrote:
On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 5:32:38 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Monday, April 22, 2013 4:14:09 PM UTC-5, dadiOH wrote:

Pat Barber wrote:



On 4/22/2013 5:16 AM, wrote:



I got my new rail and stile bits out this weekend and put them on
my ryobi router table and started playing with them. The bits
seem to sit too high


I ffoled with it last night. It went down some but then locked up
again. I am not sure my router may be shot.


I am going to take it off the table and mess with it and if I cant
get it to work I guess get a new router and or table at Lowes.


Actually, rail/stile bits might interfere with the baseplate or
insert aperture; these are large-diameter bits, in general. New
router/table isn't a solution, if that's the issue. You have to
look for interference with other parts, for depth-stops settings, for
dirty/jammed adjustment mechanisms.

Look carefully.


By, jing, I think you may have provided the answer. I would have thought he
would have noticed if the bit was too big to go through the hole but -
everything considered - maybe not.


Lets hope he did notice, or I feel that are going to be seeing many many
more questions during the making of his board. ;~)

[email protected] April 25th 13 07:31 PM

Help with router setup
 
On Monday, April 22, 2013 7:16:57 AM UTC-5, wrote:
I got my new rail and stile bits out this weekend and put them on my ryobi router table and started playing with them. The bits seem to sit too high, I cant get the right profile on my 3/4 inch thick wood. On the stiles the ogee pattern is past the middle of the tickness of the wood. And becasue of this there is no groove put on the wood.



My router is a ryobi r 181FB1. It has been in storage for awhile. I had cleaned everythign up but I cant seem to make any adjustment for the bit to go down. There is a locking ring I loosened, the adjustment ring just moves a little before it stops. But this movement does not seem to be doing anything to the hight of the bit.



Can anyone suggest what I am doing wrong?



I appreciate it!


No, it will not go up or down even with the baseplate removed.

Pat Barber[_2_] April 25th 13 08:34 PM

Help with router setup
 
On 4/25/2013 11:31 AM, wrote:
r 181FB1

Perhaps the manual would be of some help:

http://powertool.manualsonline.com/m...l?idRes=597983

dadiOH[_3_] April 25th 13 08:59 PM

Help with router setup
 
wrote:
On Monday, April 22, 2013 7:16:57 AM UTC-5, wrote:
I got my new rail and stile bits out this weekend and put them on my
ryobi router table and started playing with them. The bits seem to
sit too high, I cant get the right profile on my 3/4 inch thick
wood. On the stiles the ogee pattern is past the middle of the
tickness of the wood. And becasue of this there is no groove put on
the wood.



My router is a ryobi r 181FB1. It has been in storage for awhile. I
had cleaned everythign up but I cant seem to make any adjustment for
the bit to go down. There is a locking ring I loosened, the
adjustment ring just moves a little before it stops. But this
movement does not seem to be doing anything to the hight of the bit.



Can anyone suggest what I am doing wrong?



I appreciate it!


No, it will not go up or down even with the baseplate removed.


Did it ever? Have you ever used it?


--

dadiOH
____________________________

Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race?
Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change?
Check it out...
http://www.floridaloghouse.net



[email protected] April 25th 13 09:07 PM

Help with router setup
 
On Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:59:01 PM UTC-5, dadiOH wrote:
wrote:

On Monday, April 22, 2013 7:16:57 AM UTC-5, wrote:


I got my new rail and stile bits out this weekend and put them on my


ryobi router table and started playing with them. The bits seem to


sit too high, I cant get the right profile on my 3/4 inch thick


wood. On the stiles the ogee pattern is past the middle of the


tickness of the wood. And becasue of this there is no groove put on


the wood.








My router is a ryobi r 181FB1. It has been in storage for awhile. I


had cleaned everythign up but I cant seem to make any adjustment for


the bit to go down. There is a locking ring I loosened, the


adjustment ring just moves a little before it stops. But this


movement does not seem to be doing anything to the hight of the bit.








Can anyone suggest what I am doing wrong?








I appreciate it!




No, it will not go up or down even with the baseplate removed.




Did it ever? Have you ever used it?





--



dadiOH

____________________________



Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race?

Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change?

Check it out...
http://www.floridaloghouse.net


Yes. I have had it for about 8 years. Alot of that it has been in storage under my router table however.

Leon[_7_] April 26th 13 02:46 AM

Help with router setup
 
On 4/25/2013 3:07 PM, wrote:
On Thursday, April 25, 2013 2:59:01 PM UTC-5, dadiOH wrote:
wrote:

On Monday, April 22, 2013 7:16:57 AM UTC-5, wrote:


I got my new rail and stile bits out this weekend and put them on my


ryobi router table and started playing with them. The bits seem to


sit too high, I cant get the right profile on my 3/4 inch thick


wood. On the stiles the ogee pattern is past the middle of the


tickness of the wood. And becasue of this there is no groove put on


the wood.








My router is a ryobi r 181FB1. It has been in storage for awhile. I


had cleaned everythign up but I cant seem to make any adjustment for


the bit to go down. There is a locking ring I loosened, the


adjustment ring just moves a little before it stops. But this


movement does not seem to be doing anything to the hight of the bit.








Can anyone suggest what I am doing wrong?








I appreciate it!




No, it will not go up or down even with the baseplate removed.




Did it ever? Have you ever used it?





--



dadiOH

____________________________



Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race?

Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change?

Check it out...
http://www.floridaloghouse.net


Yes. I have had it for about 8 years. Alot of that it has been in storage under my router table however.

You may need to simply strip it down, clean it, and add a bit of wax
here and there. Corrosion could be the culprit here.

CW[_8_] April 26th 13 02:49 AM

Help with router setup
 


"Pat Barber" wrote in message ...

On 4/25/2013 11:31 AM, wrote:
r 181FB1

Perhaps the manual would be of some help:

http://powertool.manualsonline.com/m...l?idRes=597983
================================================== ===============================
I posted that a while back. He gave no indication that he looked at it or
fallowed the right procedure. I'm starting to get a whiff of troll.


Lew Hodgett[_6_] April 26th 13 03:09 AM

Help with router setup
 


http://powertool.manualsonline.com/m...l?idRes=597983
================================================== ===============================


"CW" wrote:


I posted that a while back. He gave no indication that he looked at
it or fallowed the right procedure. I'm starting to get a whiff of
troll.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The whiff I get is somebody who expects somebody else to do his work.

Lew




dadiOH[_3_] April 26th 13 12:16 PM

Help with router setup
 
wrote:
My router is a ryobi r 181FB1. It has been in storage for awhile. I


had cleaned everythign up but I cant seem to make any adjustment
for


the bit to go down. There is a locking ring I loosened, the


adjustment ring just moves a little before it stops. But this


movement does not seem to be doing anything to the hight of the
bit.


Can anyone suggest what I am doing wrong?


No, it will not go up or down even with the baseplate removed.



Did it ever? Have you ever used it?



Yes. I have had it for about 8 years. Alot of that it has been in
storage under my router table however.


If it worked before there is no reason it won't work now.

I've never had a router that adjusts the depth with a ring as does yours but
I'd think you should be able to remove the motor portion from the base (not
the base *plate*, the whole base). As Leon suggested, do that, brush off
and accumulated sawdust/wood chips, clean up any corrosion, wipe it down
well with a solvent like paint thinner and give it a coat of wax or some
squirts of silicone lubricant.

--

dadiOH
____________________________

Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race?
Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change?
Check it out...
http://www.floridaloghouse.net



Mike Marlow[_2_] April 26th 13 12:33 PM

Help with router setup
 
dadiOH wrote:


I've never had a router that adjusts the depth with a ring as does
yours but I'd think you should be able to remove the motor portion
from the base (not the base *plate*, the whole base). As Leon
suggested, do that, brush off and accumulated sawdust/wood chips,
clean up any corrosion, wipe it down well with a solvent like paint
thinner and give it a coat of wax or some squirts of silicone
lubricant.


You said the dirty "S" word in a wood working environment. I'd chose
something besides silicone.

--

-Mike-





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